WarnerConstCo.
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« on: February 21, 2010, 01:26 PM » |
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Hows about it? Make one that has awesome dust collection and is easier, faster and smarter then the rest.
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justinmcf
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Member Since: Nov 2008
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 04:33 PM » |
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great idea!
regards, justin.
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Too many festools and still not enough!
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Brice Burrell
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Member Since: Mar 2007
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 05:26 PM » |
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The last time I had a floor sanded the guy claimed to be dust free, I had my doubts. His sanders were hooded up to a big dust collection system, turns out he wasn't kidding, it was as dust free as if I'd used my Rotex. I don't remember the name of his equipment but the big collector was purple.
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WarnerConstCo.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 05:40 PM » |
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I am just getting tired of borrowing my friends (investor in town that I do work for), I am to the point where I should buy my own.
I have been pushing floor refinishing and am starting to pick up some jobs for it.
I can handle stairs and most other small spaces with my Festool sanders.
Brice- was the collection unit set up out side or just in the room with them?
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johnnyinnb
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Location: N.B. CANADA Member Since: Jan 2010
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 06:28 PM » |
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check onieda, they have some sort of system for floor sanders, don`t khow how good they work.
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Thanks
Johnnny
He`s a block off the old chip
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 07:20 PM » |
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....Brice- was the collection unit set up out side or just in the room with them?
It was a fairly large collector setup outside with hoses for multiple tools. I'm assuming the sander itself was a special unit made to be used for a dust collecting system. |
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Charimon
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Location: Omaha NE Member Since: Jun 2008
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 09:13 PM » |
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here you go Darcy-
Note how the bag is continuous. just cut and seal Craig |
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WarnerConstCo.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 09:19 PM » |
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....Brice- was the collection unit set up out side or just in the room with them?
It was a fairly large collector setup outside with hoses for multiple tools. I'm assuming the sander itself was a special unit made to be used for a dust collecting system. The purple set-up was a BonaKemi Bona Atomic, meant to go in a trailer and hoses piped to it. |
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WarnerConstCo.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 09:21 PM » |
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Craig- Thanks, that is only a 3,100 dollar vac.  I may have just scored a good deal on a Silverline 8 with a new drum. Found it from a guy on anther site that I frequent, think I have seen craig hang out there too!! |
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tjbnwi
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Location: Northwest Indiana Member Since: May 2008
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 09:53 PM » |
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My father owned a tool rental so this my experience with a few brands. The Laegler Profit is most probably the best portable general use unit in the world, great dust collection. Not the companies top of the line unit but the one that will best suit your needs. You will also need the Flip edger with this unit. Both have great dust collection. http://laegler.com/eng/produkte.phpThe Clarke sanders would be next in line, very good unit and the new "rental" units have the drum lowering handle. Better control than the ones where you use the main handle to control how the drum contacts the floor. It also helps with dust control as the bottom of the unit stays close to the floor. You do need an edger with this one also. We had a lot of problems with the Floor Boos, the units are heavy and people would drop them bending the axle shaft. We had some Americans, they were bought out by Clarke. Never used a Silver line, I did look on their web site and it appears to be similar to Clarke and American. They refer to a drum control so it may be the the same as the Clarke drum lever. Remember these things weigh over 100 pounds so a little help that day may be in order. Proper paper selection is very important. All but the Floor Boss require an edger. Tom |
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WarnerConstCo.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2010, 10:00 PM » |
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Thanks Tom!!
I think I have the edge sanding covered with my RAS, RO and DX93.
Plus, I never did a very good job with the actual edgers.
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mwhafner
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2010, 11:49 PM » |
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I have a relatively new Clark, and the dust collection is pretty good on the drum sander. The finish sander (square pad) still leaves a lot to be desired.
I do think they present interesting issues for dust collection, and I have run a few experiments. The Festool vacs don't do so well, and neither does a shop dust collector (1hp Powermatic). The best results I have gotten were with a Rigid 5hp/15g shop vac.
I have been thinking about replacing my existing setup with one of the new multi-head RO sanders (like the Varathane).
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WarnerConstCo.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 12:44 AM » |
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Do the multi head ones do as good of a job flattening a wonky
floor like drum/belt ones?
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Charimon
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 02:30 AM » |
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Craig- Thanks, that is only a 3,100 dollar vac. I may have just scored a good deal on a Silverline 8 with a new drum. Found it from a guy on anther site that I frequent, think I have seen craig hang out there too!! Never let it be spoken that I wont try to spend your money Darcy  Craig |
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mwhafner
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 09:36 AM » |
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Do the multi head ones do as good of a job flattening a wonky
floor like drum/belt ones? I can't imagine they are near as fast for new installations. Most of what I do is re-finish, and they are just as fast and a lot easier to maneuver in small or chopped up rooms. |
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