Author Topic: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???  (Read 3254 times)

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Offline antss

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How about adding the attic option on the new SYS combi and particularly the sortainer SYS series ?

I think it'd be quite useful on the sortainer ones especially ?

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Offline Gregor

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On the sys-combi you can swap the lid with one with an attic - but it would be nice if they were available with them directly.

For the SYS 4 TL-SORT/3 it would also nice to have the option to get one, but it would be even better if these would be available in individual parts (top with/without attic, drawer section preferably in different heights, bottom) so one could assemble - when not caring about the systainer height grid - one with the amount and size of drawers actually needed.

Offline bigjonh

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I put one on my combi. It's pretty sweet.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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I don't think they would do the Sys4 sort 3 combo with the attic lid as clearance or strength would likely be a problem. I'm using a Sys 1 box (original organiser) on top of my tool stack as a type of Super attic lid.

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Offline antss

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@PreferrablyWood - why would the attic cause an issue with strength ?

Seems to me the strength is in the frame / outside edge just like on a regular systainer.  [unsure]

Offline PreferrablyWood

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@PreferrablyWood - why would the attic cause an issue with strength ?

Seems to me the strength is in the frame / outside edge just like on a regular systainer.  [unsure]

Just seems like a more flimsy feel to the lid as a complete solid unit compared to a normal lid. Another thing that causes me to be sceptical of the attic lids is they as resistant to water ingress as a normal lid.
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
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Offline antss

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Perhaps you should actually look at one in depth.  The attic makes the SYS main body no more or less water resistant. It seals onto the main body the same as a regular systainer lid.

 Given enough volume of water and time  , I'd bet capillary action will let water through the clear lid of the attic flap though. 

But, I don't leave my stuff out in the rain. So it seems moot anyway , even if it were possible. Which I'm not going to test.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Perhaps you should actually look at one in depth.  The attic makes the SYS main body no more or less water resistant. It seals onto the main body the same as a regular systainer lid.

 Given enough volume of water and time  , I'd bet capillary action will let water through the clear lid of the attic flap though. 

But, I don't leave my stuff out in the rain. So it seems moot anyway , even if it were possible. Which I'm not going to test.

Anything in the attic lid gets wet if it gets splashed or rained on. The main body is not waterproof, but not at exposed. The systainer design is not sealed against the elements which is on of the things that could be improved.
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline Alex

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The systainers are protected against rain just fine. I've had plenty of -involuntary- opportunity to test this the last 2 months.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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The systainers are protected against rain just fine. I've had plenty of -involuntary- opportunity to test this the last 2 months.
I think the systainer is reasonable as far as water getting in when out in the rain for an hour or so , but there is no tight seal of the lid to the base so I would not trust it for longer periods out in the weather with things that were water sensitive like sandpaper or powertools
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline antss

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Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2016, 11:22 PM »
I just find it strange that some of you leave your Festools out in the rain  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

I don't even treat my old crappy no name tools that way.

I wouldn't want the xtra weight, or expense of weatherizing the systainer. And you'd lose the smooth closure too.  If I needed or wanted a a serious duty case to protect from the elements and abuse , I'd get Pelican cases and have the tools fitted to them.

It is interesting and should be noted that Dewalt's new case system has been weatherized with a gasket.  I've only taken a cursory look at them, but I find those too heavy and bulky for my tastes.  I'm sure they appeal to many guys though.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2016, 11:27 PM by antss »

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2016, 04:40 AM »
I just find it strange that some of you leave your Festools out in the rain  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

I don't even treat my old crappy no name tools that way.

I wouldn't want the xtra weight, or expense of weatherizing the systainer. And you'd lose the smooth closure too.  If I needed or wanted a a serious duty case to protect from the elements and abuse , I'd get Pelican cases and have the tools fitted to them.

It is interesting and should be noted that Dewalt's new case system has been weatherized with a gasket.  I've only taken a cursory look at them, but I find those too heavy and bulky for my tastes.  I'm sure they appeal to many guys though.

Well wet it is in Scandinavia, and I do a lot of outdoor work , so it's while sometimes intermitten rain, and moving things in and out of the shed can be a little annoying.. So a big yes to weatherproofing and the weight difference wouldn't worry me, but as I said for a short light rain they are fine..
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.