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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Festool Wish List => Topic started by: antss on December 13, 2016, 10:19 PM

Title: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: antss on December 13, 2016, 10:19 PM
How about adding the attic option on the new SYS combi and particularly the sortainer SYS series ?

I think it'd be quite useful on the sortainer ones especially ?
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: Gregor on December 14, 2016, 02:11 AM
On the sys-combi you can swap the lid with one with an attic - but it would be nice if they were available with them directly.

For the SYS 4 TL-SORT/3 it would also nice to have the option to get one, but it would be even better if these would be available in individual parts (top with/without attic, drawer section preferably in different heights, bottom) so one could assemble - when not caring about the systainer height grid - one with the amount and size of drawers actually needed.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: bigjonh on December 14, 2016, 10:42 AM
I put one on my combi. It's pretty sweet.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: PreferrablyWood on December 14, 2016, 03:40 PM
I don't think they would do the Sys4 sort 3 combo with the attic lid as clearance or strength would likely be a problem. I'm using a Sys 1 box (original organiser) on top of my tool stack as a type of Super attic lid.

Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: antss on December 14, 2016, 07:46 PM
@PreferrablyWood - why would the attic cause an issue with strength ?

Seems to me the strength is in the frame / outside edge just like on a regular systainer.  [unsure]
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: PreferrablyWood on December 15, 2016, 02:29 AM
@PreferrablyWood - why would the attic cause an issue with strength ?

Seems to me the strength is in the frame / outside edge just like on a regular systainer.  [unsure]

Just seems like a more flimsy feel to the lid as a complete solid unit compared to a normal lid. Another thing that causes me to be sceptical of the attic lids is they as resistant to water ingress as a normal lid.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: antss on December 15, 2016, 08:34 AM
Perhaps you should actually look at one in depth.  The attic makes the SYS main body no more or less water resistant. It seals onto the main body the same as a regular systainer lid.

 Given enough volume of water and time  , I'd bet capillary action will let water through the clear lid of the attic flap though. 

But, I don't leave my stuff out in the rain. So it seems moot anyway , even if it were possible. Which I'm not going to test.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: PreferrablyWood on December 15, 2016, 10:25 AM
Perhaps you should actually look at one in depth.  The attic makes the SYS main body no more or less water resistant. It seals onto the main body the same as a regular systainer lid.

 Given enough volume of water and time  , I'd bet capillary action will let water through the clear lid of the attic flap though. 

But, I don't leave my stuff out in the rain. So it seems moot anyway , even if it were possible. Which I'm not going to test.

Anything in the attic lid gets wet if it gets splashed or rained on. The main body is not waterproof, but not at exposed. The systainer design is not sealed against the elements which is on of the things that could be improved.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: Alex on December 15, 2016, 11:46 AM
The systainers are protected against rain just fine. I've had plenty of -involuntary- opportunity to test this the last 2 months.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: PreferrablyWood on December 15, 2016, 05:59 PM
The systainers are protected against rain just fine. I've had plenty of -involuntary- opportunity to test this the last 2 months.
I think the systainer is reasonable as far as water getting in when out in the rain for an hour or so , but there is no tight seal of the lid to the base so I would not trust it for longer periods out in the weather with things that were water sensitive like sandpaper or powertools
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: antss on December 15, 2016, 11:22 PM
I just find it strange that some of you leave your Festools out in the rain  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

I don't even treat my old crappy no name tools that way.

I wouldn't want the xtra weight, or expense of weatherizing the systainer. And you'd lose the smooth closure too.  If I needed or wanted a a serious duty case to protect from the elements and abuse , I'd get Pelican cases and have the tools fitted to them.

It is interesting and should be noted that Dewalt's new case system has been weatherized with a gasket.  I've only taken a cursory look at them, but I find those too heavy and bulky for my tastes.  I'm sure they appeal to many guys though.
Title: Re: How about an attic lid for the SYS -Combi series / sortainer series ???
Post by: PreferrablyWood on December 16, 2016, 04:40 AM
I just find it strange that some of you leave your Festools out in the rain  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

I don't even treat my old crappy no name tools that way.

I wouldn't want the xtra weight, or expense of weatherizing the systainer. And you'd lose the smooth closure too.  If I needed or wanted a a serious duty case to protect from the elements and abuse , I'd get Pelican cases and have the tools fitted to them.

It is interesting and should be noted that Dewalt's new case system has been weatherized with a gasket.  I've only taken a cursory look at them, but I find those too heavy and bulky for my tastes.  I'm sure they appeal to many guys though.

Well wet it is in Scandinavia, and I do a lot of outdoor work , so it's while sometimes intermitten rain, and moving things in and out of the shed can be a little annoying.. So a big yes to weatherproofing and the weight difference wouldn't worry me, but as I said for a short light rain they are fine..