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Offline Holmz

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2016, 09:56 PM »
(Ideally batteries would be like a 9v battery, where they are all the same - but clearly there is a form factor...)

@Kev and a DIM/ISO standard for rails...

Mafell is already teamed with Metabo, so there are a bunch cordless options that compete in quality with Festool.
If Festool, Metabo and Mafell were all on a standard battery platform it would certainly make life easier.

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Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2016, 01:46 PM »
I'm using my TI impact 15V will get another 14.4 V battery for it and use it until it dies. The TI is easy and ergonomic in use, I would not buy an 18V impact to replace it as I don't do building work on a day to day basis. I recommend just getting one of the remaining TI impacts to festool users..

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Offline Staniam

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2016, 01:58 PM »
I highly, highly doubt we will ever see a standardized battery platform. The point is to make money and outsell. Not work with your competitors and give away money.
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Offline Kev

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2016, 02:09 PM »
I highly, highly doubt we will ever see a standardized battery platform. The point is to make money and outsell. Not work with your competitors and give away money.

Sadly realistic ... a third party disruptor is the best we could probably hope for. But then every tool brand would cry "warranty voided".

All of this market control with proprietary battery packs all housing the same handful of generic lithium cells is a pretty sad state of affairs when you think about it. A plastic box and a proprietary connector hiding the common truth!


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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2016, 02:18 PM »
There will never be battery compatibility between manufacturers - it has taken most of them a very long time to get some form of compatibility across the range of their own products. At least Festool has done quite well in this area.

As for the subject of this thread...

I will never forget a being told that impact drivers were too noisy and that is why Festool would not make one. I am sure that Festool have something up their sleeve but it better be something more than a hairy arm !

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Offline Alec Buscemi

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2017, 11:36 AM »
Bump!  Get that tool made already!

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2017, 03:39 PM »
Festool have all but confirmed there will be an impact driver. Now, whether that will be a 2017 or 2018 release is really anyone's guess at this stage though.

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2017, 01:52 AM »
Festool have all but confirmed there will be an impact driver. Now, whether that will be a 2017 or 2018 release is really anyone's guess at this stage though.

I agree with Garry - there have been no denials and it really is about time they got into this important part of the market.

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Offline #Tee

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2017, 02:53 AM »
festool finally caught up to ryobi by implementing a battery gauge on their 18v line. its annoying enough when ppl keep tapping the trigger on a drill when the screw is almost to about to bottom out then to have them do this practice on a impact makes me want to die.
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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2017, 12:34 PM »
Festool have all but confirmed there will be an impact driver. Now, whether that will be a 2017 or 2018 release is really anyone's guess at this stage though.

I agree with Garry - there have been no denials and it really is about time they got into this important part of the market.

Peter

Yeah, about time. Had me another wrist snapping experience the other day.
Would not have happened with an impact. It does not have to be the best impact on the market. It would be nice if it was very very good. :)
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Offline 10eighty

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Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2017, 05:32 PM »
I'm currently running a festool Ti15 impact driver have always loved it and like that it has all chucks that can work on it. Clearly it doesn't have the grunt as an impact driver or a drill that a dedicated tool has. My impact driver of chose is a Hilti they out perform the makita's on site based on all my staff who use them and our drill of choice on site since the protool version is the DRC 18 because it spins at 3600rpm and is a good all around drill.
I have always considered the TI15 as a finishing type tool/Cabinetry/Furniture it has never been used on site for the construction side.
Festool have now gone back to the drawing board on their impact driver and as you can see in this forum it has now leaked that a Impact driver is now coming. A close friend of mine recently not only saw it but handled it i believe in the R&D department in Germany at the festool manufacturing plant where supposedly it is now at the latter stage of testing.
It is coming!

Re: Impact Driver.
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2017, 12:23 PM »
As posted in another thread I talked to a German Festool Rep today for about half an hour about wants and wishes, likes and dislikes.

Everything was of course "top secret" and he would not give any information other than hints, some stronger than others - but also he would also say openly what he liked and disliked on a personal level and at least he would say No it something was not even in the works.

When asked about a successor to the Ti15 he started by saying that the Ti15 was a piece of cr*p. I thought I heard him wrong but he repeated that it was cr*p. We then talked about impacts for a while and he said that it has been a long process because impact drivers have not been very popular in Germany and convincing them that there is a market and that there is a need has taken a long time. He also said that yes, there is one in the works, but would not disclose any release date.

I asked him about CXS going brushless but he did say No to that, it would be too costly. When asking for a CXS Impact he also said No. It did not fit in their line up as it stands today - so basically NO brushless CXS and NO CXS/TXS or 10.8/12V  Impact.

They are looking into their 18V line up "only" at the moment when it comes to battery powered gear and he was interested in any feedback on the new battery platform - which he was given in the way of potential machines to outfit with the batteries. And, to which he agreed on most. 

One thing he did disclose while we were talking about improving the hose garage on some vac's was that they will release a new and more flexible hose that he urged us to check out when released. It will be smoother and more flexible and solve a few of the problems with the existing hoses dragging on the rails etc. :)

I asked him about Nail guns for 18V - but nothing at all, he asked follow up questions as to why and how we would use it and we showed him the Senco Fusion - he had never seen a sealed gas canister gun before and seemed very impressed after a demo and a comparison to the previous generation of air/gas nailers. The shot capacity per charge and the weight seemed to impress him, as did the fact about the small number of moving parts. He said that Festool had not looked much into nail guns as they were "very complex" and hard to get right.

On the way out of the shop I stopped and fondled the fantastic Hitachi impact drill on display when the German rep poked me and said - "no, wait until next year" and smiled.

Soooo - maybe 2018 is the year of the Impact?   
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Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.