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Offline ear3

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I was thinking about getting the Domino imperial thickness gauge from Seneca because I want the ability to do predictable imperial offsets, but noticed that the thickest setting for the Seneca gauge is 1 1/8".  If the Festool OEM gauge goes up to 40mm, why couldn't the Seneca one have gone up to 1 1/2?, which would allow a 3/4 offset (which is what I need for my current project)?  Hey Festool -- I smell opportunity.  And since Seneca already charges $55 for this simple piece of plastic, think of what you guys could charge if you put your green stamp on it!
« Last Edit: December 03, 2015, 09:18 PM by Edward A Reno III »
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Offline TOOLTOWN

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I could be wrong here, but I think the limit on the Seneca gauge has more to do with the length of the piece than the height.  You need a certain amount of length for each setting, take the available space, divide by length used per stop and I bet there just isn't space left for more positions. 

The Seneca gauge changes in 1/8 inch increments, the Festool by 5 - 10mm increments, resulting in greater overall height range.

Ken

Offline JD2720

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I just got the Seneca imperial thickness gauge yesterday. As Ken said, there is limited space. The OEM gauge has larger steps than the Seneca gauge does. The Senca gauge is made to center the bit on standard imperial thickness plywood. Each step is 1/8". The gauge cannot be any longer.

Offline rvieceli

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Just use the 40mm setting on your Domino. You'll be only slightly more that 1/32 of an inch off your ideal setting.

Offline ear3

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Thanks -- I've done that before, it's just that I wanted an offset that would allow me to achieve a perfect 3/4" offset to fit some 1x material in the lip without any further modification.  Anything is doable given enough time and testing, but part of the Festool edge IMHO is getting presets that save you the normal fiddling and fuddling time.

Just use the 40mm setting on your Domino. You'll be only slightly more that 1/32 of an inch off your ideal setting.
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Offline rvieceli

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If it's important to you and you will be using that offset frequently then I'd suggest making your own. The piece appears to just be a piece of Delrin with the stops machined in. I would not try to recreate the steps but just make a piece that fits into the space and gives you the 3/4 inch you want. Looks like remove one screw and pop in and out.

Offline jbasen

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This seeems like something that could be 3d printed for a fraction of the price being charged.  I like the work that Seneca has done and own several of thei products but $55 for a piece of plastic is a bit excessive

Offline ear3

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Good idea!  I've been wanting to get into some 3D work, particularly since I have access to the machines and even training through my job.  Maybe this can be my first project.

This seeems like something that could be 3d printed for a fraction of the price being charged.  I like the work that Seneca has done and own several of thei products but $55 for a piece of plastic is a bit excessive
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Offline Ecotone Tools

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 03:02 PM »
Edward, I had the exact same issue with the Domino Joiner so I designed a gauge that was first of all an imperial gauge and 2nd went up to 1 1/2" thickness. I went through a lot of prototypes before I was happy with the performance (not as simple as it seems to get it to print properly). Anyways, I've been selling them on Amazon and think it works really well so I thought I would post the link for you. It's half the cost of the Seneca gauge. Imperial Thickness Gauge for Festool DX500 Domino Joiner)

Offline Pete Connor

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2016, 12:23 PM »
Edward do you make one for the 700?

Offline Steve-Rice

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2016, 05:10 PM »
Ed,

If you have the Seneca Domi-Plate, you can use shims to center the domino on any thickness you like. The advantage of the Domi-Plate is that you also eliminate the possibility of any slippage of the thickness fence.

Check out this older post:

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/modifying-the-seneca-domi-plate-for-various-stock-thicknesses/msg461602/#msg461602

Hope this helps,

Steve

« Last Edit: September 27, 2016, 05:13 PM by Steve-Rice »

Offline ear3

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Ah, brilliant. Thanks for the link @Steve-Rice . Gonna try this next time I have production work with non standard thicknesses.
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2016, 04:47 PM »
Edward, I had the exact same issue with the Domino Joiner so I designed a gauge that was first of all an imperial gauge and 2nd went up to 1 1/2" thickness. I went through a lot of prototypes before I was happy with the performance (not as simple as it seems to get it to print properly). Anyways, I've been selling them on Amazon and think it works really well so I thought I would post the link for you. It's half the cost of the Seneca gauge. Imperial Thickness Gauge for Festool DX500 Domino Joiner)
Updated link?
https://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Thickness-Gauge-Festool-Domino/dp/B01ASBQQ8K/
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Offline ear3

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2016, 07:07 AM »
Excellent.  Thanks.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Imperial thickness gauge for Domino with more settings than Seneca one
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 05:03 PM »
Edward, I had the exact same issue with the Domino Joiner so I designed a gauge that was first of all an imperial gauge and 2nd went up to 1 1/2" thickness. I went through a lot of prototypes before I was happy with the performance (not as simple as it seems to get it to print properly). Anyways, I've been selling them on Amazon and think it works really well so I thought I would post the link for you. It's half the cost of the Seneca gauge. Imperial Thickness Gauge for Festool DX500 Domino Joiner)

Do you make one for the DF 700 ??
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