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I see a number of posts alluding to an update to the Kapex (12", etc.) Does anyone know when the new Kapex will be out? I do not want to spend $1300.00 now if within a year a new model will be out. I can continue with my current Hitachi till then. Tks.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 09:16 PM » |
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I see a number of posts alluding to an update to the Kapex (12", etc.) Does anyone know when the new Kapex will be out?
You must have misunderstood the posts you are referrring to. There have been posts about a possible update, but they're all just wishes. No matter how good a tool is, there's always a number of people who will find flaws with it and there has been talk about what they would like to see in an improved future Kapex. But I don't think there has ever been one post on this forum hinting to a new version of the Kapex being released any time soon. So don't count on it. |
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 10:10 PM » |
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Let me confirm there is, at least to the best of my knowledge and I happen to be in the know, no intention of introducing any updates, changes or new versions of the Kapex in the foreseeable future. I would really be surprised to see a 12" SCMS from Festool. A large blade would go against our philosophy of precision and lightweight portability.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 12:02 AM » |
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Not that I'm too concerned (since i already own a Kapex)
But is there any chance for the Kapex KS 88 hitting North America?
I believe its the financially cheaper version of the Kapex we have already, just without the lasers.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 12:14 AM » |
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I doubt we'll ever see the KS 88 here. There are certainly no plans to beginning offering at this time.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 07:41 PM » |
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Shane, thank you for your update ( everyone else as well). One other question. When you say foreseeable future does that mean at least 1 year, at least 2 years, etc ? Thank you.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 10:16 PM » |
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At least a year but if I had to guess the Kapex won't see changes for 2-3 more years minimum.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 10:43 PM » |
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Thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 11:28 PM » |
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I see a number of posts alluding to an update to the Kapex (12", etc.) Does anyone know when the new Kapex will be out? I do not want to spend $1300.00 now if within a year a new model will be out. I can continue with my current Hitachi till then. Tks.
I've gotta ask you guys, as I see these posts all the time as well.... where does the idea that a new Kapex is in the pipeline come from. Forget the scaled down Euro Kapex, but the idea that a new one is coming soon, but has been kept hidden a la a skunk works Festool program. It seems to always pop up and has been gathering steam lately. What's it based off of? |
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 01:12 AM » |
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I see a number of posts alluding to an update to the Kapex (12", etc.) Does anyone know when the new Kapex will be out? I do not want to spend $1300.00 now if within a year a new model will be out. I can continue with my current Hitachi till then. Tks.
I've gotta ask you guys, as I see these posts all the time as well.... where does the idea that a new Kapex is in the pipeline come from. Forget the scaled down Euro Kapex, but the idea that a new one is coming soon, but has been kept hidden a la a skunk works Festool program. It seems to always pop up and has been gathering steam lately. What's it based off of? I must be talking in my sleep!   |
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 04:54 PM » |
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Sean, for me it came from the fact that I saw folks asking for a 12 inch, coupled with others mentioning the lasers moved and had to be readjusted followed by others alluding that this was corrected on later models. ( not sure if this is true ). Then, the fact that the Kapex has been out for sometime led me to ask the question. It never hurts to ask, and I have made purchases in the past without knowing that a new or update was coming out shortly. I am speaking about purchases in general. Anyway, Shane answered the question. Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 04:59 PM » |
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I hear ya loud and clear. Makes sense. Was just trying to understand where the train of thought had been coming from.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 07:07 PM » |
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Hope there is not a new Kapex on the horzion, I just bought one (2/13/12). Waiting for delivery as the Kapex is on BACKORDER  |
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 07:38 PM » |
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Hope there is not a new Kapex on the horzion, I just bought one (2/13/12). Waiting for delivery as the Kapex is on BACKORDER Greg, You'll be fine! The new Kapex uses Multimaster type blades which you probably won't find useful.   |
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 08:05 PM » |
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Greg, You'll be fine! The new Kapex uses Multimaster type blades which you probably won't find useful. I can see that now an oscillating blade hanging down on the Kapex rails. The first sliding oscillating blade miter saw. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 12:00 AM » |
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You guys are just being mean. Of course there is an new Kapex coming.... from every dealer you order one from.... The Kapex just flat out works as is... Nothing to improve.... Well if it could read my mind and turn on the lasers when I just think of them being on that would save me... .0007 seconds per cut...  Cheers, Steve
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well I guess I can wait  but I love my kapex! so much that I'm scared to take it into work. Too many rough guys coming into the house to cut wet/cement covered 2x4's. If I could have a wish on the kapex? that they design a detent over-ride. It sucks that when I need 45.4 degrees, it slides backward into the 45 degree slot. Most other saws have some sort of mechanisim to do this! and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha Other than that? nuttin  its just so darn smooth! it's ruined me, cause we have old 8" single tilt hitachi's at work LOL I hope it's a few years, cause then I'd sell my beloved kapex and get the new one. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2012, 11:26 PM » |
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If I could have a wish on the kapex? that they design a detent over-ride. It sucks that when I need 45.4 degrees, it slides backward into the 45 degree slot. Most other saws have some sort of mechanisim to do this!
Note: When setting a miter angle very close to one of the miter stops (for example, at 45½° ), keep holding down the miter stop release lever until you fully engage the miter lock lever, to prevent the miter angle from jumping to the nearby miter stop position. I didn't read my manual  for longer than I care to say, until I found this. If this is not the problem, please disregard. Cheers, Sam |
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2012, 02:24 AM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
If you are on a job site with other trades, you can always use the Fastfix knob to disable the trigger while you are away from the saw. Most people won't even notice. That idea was passed on by another FOG member. Peter |
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2012, 05:53 PM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
The more I think about this the more I like the idea! Cheers, Steve |
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2012, 09:58 AM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
The more I think about this the more I like the idea! Cheers, Steve This is the sort of technology that MUST be incorporated in weapons or various kinds. Imagine a pistol that only fire in the hands of the policeman (or partner if multiples) it was allocated to. .... and your car .... |
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2012, 02:15 PM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
The more I think about this the more I like the idea! Cheers, Steve This is the sort of technology that MUST be incorporated in weapons or various kinds. Imagine a pistol that only fire in the hands of the policeman (or partner if multiples) it was allocated to. .... and your car .... Kev, I wouldn't go that far with safety and other devices. If you can't save a life because you don't have the right finger print to operate a defibrillator or save a life... or Having consulted in the power industry when you drive in to refineries and chem plants you are required to leave all vehicle unlocked and with keys in the ignition. If the alarms go off you get in the nearest vehicle and and go. I just thinking that from skills training people that aren't trained or authorized its a no go. Also from a theft deterrent standpoint you can't turn it on it would be hard to sell, pawn etc. Might lower insurance rates? Cheers, Steve |
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2012, 04:56 PM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
The more I think about this the more I like the idea! Cheers, Steve This is the sort of technology that MUST be incorporated in weapons or various kinds. Imagine a pistol that only fire in the hands of the policeman (or partner if multiples) it was allocated to. .... and your car .... Kev, I wouldn't go that far with safety and other devices. If you can't save a life because you don't have the right finger print to operate a defibrillator or save a life... or Having consulted in the power industry when you drive in to refineries and chem plants you are required to leave all vehicle unlocked and with keys in the ignition. If the alarms go off you get in the nearest vehicle and and go. I just thinking that from skills training people that aren't trained or authorized its a no go. Also from a theft deterrent standpoint you can't turn it on it would be hard to sell, pawn etc. Might lower insurance rates? Cheers, Steve There'd need to be sensible limits and appropriate override options. Biometric security isnt that hard to implement. |
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Unfortunately the worst part of biometric security is the fact that you cannot change the key if it gets stolen i.e. someone cuts your finger to bypass the fingerprint scanner or worse.
At a work site probably a simple 6-digit code lock with an exponential cool down period after every invalid PIN-entry would be a lot safer & cheaper solution.
Or more conveniently usable solution would be a built-in near field transceiver activation from a key fob like modern car keys. That could be a spin-off feature of the cordless VAC trigger mechanism discussed in another thread and we could have stationary tools plugged in to the wall all the time and just move the VAC hose around instead of hose + plug-it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2012, 07:12 AM » |
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and maybe a finger print recogniser, so I could take it to work and it wouldn't work for anyone but me! bwahahahahaha
If you are on a job site with other trades, you can always use the Fastfix knob to disable the trigger while you are away from the saw. Most people won't even notice. That idea was passed on by another FOG member. Peter What a great idea! I'm going to try that. I might take the saw into work on a Saturday when there's only 6 or 7 of us trim guys on site. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2012, 07:20 AM » |
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If I could have a wish on the kapex? that they design a detent over-ride. It sucks that when I need 45.4 degrees, it slides backward into the 45 degree slot. Most other saws have some sort of mechanisim to do this!
Note: When setting a miter angle very close to one of the miter stops (for example, at 45½° ), keep holding down the miter stop release lever until you fully engage the miter lock lever, to prevent the miter angle from jumping to the nearby miter stop position. I didn't read my manual for longer than I care to say, until I found this. If this is not the problem, please disregard. Cheers, Sam Thanks Sam! I am going to try that in the morning  Looks like Festool anticipated my quesitons! I got nothing left to whine about! LOL |
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 11:32 PM » |
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 Hope it works for you! Not sure about anything smaller than half a degree. We need that smiley that is slapping himself in the forhead. Do it on a daily basis.
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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2012, 08:21 PM » |
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Well reading that just put a cold shiver up my spine as I have just ordered a Kapex.
Thanks to the guys for their opinion on NO changes for a while.
I haven't been caught out yet but my mate was with the new rotex some years ago.
He was not happy as he did ask and was also assured that there was no new one coming.
6 months later there it was.
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