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« on: February 19, 2012, 06:16 AM » |
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This may have been suggested somewhere ...
I don't go out on site to install stuff, so I could be off the mark a bit (all I do is play at home).
Now that we have lighting, drilling, jigsaw - all we need after a simple cabinet install is the ability to clean up.
Something a few times more powerful than the average "dust buster", with the ability to attach a hose to do the best it can for the cordless jigsaw.
Additionally it'll pickup the mess from any drilling to clean up the job.
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I got a Dyson Animal for the car and we use it round the house - I sometime use it to clean up if I make a little mess and don't want to get a serious vacuum out ... something a little more powerful than that would probably do the trick - with Festool lithium batteries to power it.
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Alan m
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 06:20 AM » |
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sounds good. make it the shape of a systainer and im sold
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Upscale
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 09:31 AM » |
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Make it the shape of a systainer and im sold I'd suggest a systainer shaped docking/charging port for the vaccum. The vacuum itself would be pulled out of the front of the systainer when you needed to use it. I got a Dyson Animal for the car and we use it round the house - I sometime use it to clean up if I make a little mess and don't want to get a serious vacuum out ... something a little more powerful than that would probably do the trick - with Festool lithium batteries to power it.
Yes! That is something I'd buy in a second. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 09:53 AM » |
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Make it the shape of a systainer and im sold I'd suggest a systainer shaped docking/charging port for the vaccum. The vacuum itself would be pulled out of the front of the systainer when you needed to use it.... I like this idea. |
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Steve R
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 11:14 AM » |
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Fitting the systainer profile would be nice. Even a retractable corded model would be helpful.
I get so use to how well the CT's work I would be a bit let down if it didn't work as well.
Cheers,
Steve
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Alan m
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 01:22 PM » |
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how about if the botttom was a systainer 2 with no lid and the top is a riser sys(sys 2 or 3 size) with a lid compartment for a short hose. it would be a sys 4 or 5 overall
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 07:19 PM » |
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SUGGESTION:
I know the OP wants something smallish, but there's also a need for a cordless vac with some power. so:
Make a battery storage system that fits inside of a systainer. This would be fairly easy. Look at the ones made for emergency sump pumps, or maybe RV's. Heck, even old lighting packs could work.
Shorten your CT's power cord, pop the systainer/battery system on when you need it, plug in & go.
This gives several advantages:
1: Easy to leave it behind when you don't need it, so you're not always carrying all that weight.
2: You can carry the heavy battery unit separate from the vacuum.
3: For heavy / continuous use, you could make & carry extra battery units with you.
4: No need for a new machine.
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For the OP's "small" needs, you could then use this system with your main vac, but also pick up a used Festool mini, and make that your 'super portable" rig.
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Kev
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 06:58 AM » |
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SUGGESTION:
I know the OP wants something smallish, but there's also a need for a cordless vac with some power. so:
Make a battery storage system that fits inside of a systainer. This would be fairly easy. Look at the ones made for emergency sump pumps, or maybe RV's. Heck, even old lighting packs could work.
Shorten your CT's power cord, pop the systainer/battery system on when you need it, plug in & go.
This gives several advantages:
1: Easy to leave it behind when you don't need it, so you're not always carrying all that weight.
2: You can carry the heavy battery unit separate from the vacuum.
3: For heavy / continuous use, you could make & carry extra battery units with you.
4: No need for a new machine.
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For the OP's "small" needs, you could then use this system with your main vac, but also pick up a used Festool mini, and make that your 'super portable" rig.
The kind of battery pack you'd need to run an A/C CT would be an expensive monster ... lots of cells and an inverter ... think large UPS in a systainer ... sysbooster? A generator would make more sense. Anyway - the "cordless" thing was the important bit ... Maybe I'll just have to paint my cordless Dyson green  |
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Alan m
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 07:15 AM » |
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i dont see why fetool cant do it. dewalt and makita have 18 volt vacs. i cant be that hard. a cordless vac would only be for small clean up. they could use 1 or 2 18v batteries
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 12:44 PM » |
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Didn't I see a cordless light from Festool not that long ago? Maybe make a Vac that runs on two of the batteries that the light uses or something?
Most of the cordless kits from Dewalt, Makita, etc do that sort of thing...
-Jim
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Upscale
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 03:34 PM » |
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i dont see why fetool cant do it. dewalt and makita have 18 volt vacs. I have a DeWalt cordless vac. I bought it about three years ago. I used it once. It's been sitting in a closet for most of those three years. I wasted $150 of good beer money on this thing. I'm an idiot.  I could be wrong, but I think Festool considers a cordless a wasted endeavour. But, then again, the lure of another systainer option with something like an embedded vac might sell really well. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 05:53 PM » |
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How bout a cordless battery charger!!! It uses up battery power as it charges batteries!!!!!!
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Alan m
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 07:36 PM » |
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How bout a cordless battery charger!!! It uses up battery power as it charges batteries!!!!!!
ya plug in 2 and charge one . seriously . how about a solar charger |
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 08:00 PM » |
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Battery wont cut it.... How about nuclear powered ? Think of the money Festool could make off the "consumables"
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 08:03 PM » |
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How bout a cordless battery charger!!! It uses up battery power as it charges batteries!!!!!!
ya plug in 2 and charge one . seriously . how about a solar charger I like this Idea. Systainers with fold out solar panels. Dark Blue with green edges. With a built in universal battery charger. Very lightweight. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2012, 09:55 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 08:59 AM » |
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I have the Ryobi 18v cordless "shop vac" (ha!).
For the first many months I considered it a total waste and mistake. Then the 18v LIon batteries came out and made the thing finally (reasonably) useful (only NiCd's were available before that.. and they just petered out too fast).
It would never replace a full blown shop-vac or CT. But for what the OP describes it would suffice. i.e cabinet installation cleanup: dust, drilling sawdust, some small debris; small hose for inside spaces, etc. I use it maybe once a month, and it's handy then. I could use my Midi, but the little cordless IS extremely lightweight and easy to grab and go.
I have no doubt a Festool model would have much more suction and longevity, which of course is key in a vacuum. Not sure if my imagined price point would make sense... then again, look at the Syslite. Peeps seem to really like it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 09:59 AM » |
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I would like a vacuum cleaner which fits in a backpack or is designed to be a backpack version. I think it's very handy when on a ladder and the hose gets in the way or is to short from where the VC stands. You only need a power extension but that's normally not the problem.  |
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 10:15 AM » |
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I would like a vacuum cleaner which fits in a backpack or is designed to be a backpack version. I think it's very handy when on a ladder and the hose gets in the way or is to short from where the VC stands. You only need a power extension but that's normally not the problem. It'd be awesome if we saw a 10~100 fold increase in battery storage technology ... the world would change. Imagine a VacBackPack with suction and power for a sander ... working on the decks of big boats, outside of large buildings, etc. Freedom. I'd love to know what the military are playing with in terms of portable power ... lasers, "death rays"   |
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