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Offline jonny round boy

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Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« on: May 31, 2014, 04:57 AM »
The centrotec wood drill bits are great, but the 3mm bit is usually just too big for piloting screws. I wish Festool would make 2mm and 2.5mm sizes.

Also, 1/2mm increments would be good on the smaller sizes too (3.5, 4.5, 5.5).

On the downside, though, if they did I'd have to re-do all my attic storage...  [unsure]
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Online Alex

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 06:00 AM »
Hear, hear!

I want the 2 and 2,5 also, together with a 12 mm one.

Offline Kev

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 06:16 AM »
The +0.5mm installer set ... only $450 [scared]

I too would like a more granular range - then I'd have less other brand stuff mixed in, in multiple small containers.

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 06:24 AM »
Hear, hear!

I want the 2 and 2,5 also, together with a 12 mm one.

Good call, since the forstner bits only start at 15mm!
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Offline ifit

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 06:32 AM »
I would like some spade bits 10-30mm

Offline fdengel

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2014, 07:46 AM »
I wouldn't mind some smaller-sized Centrotec bits either.

Offline Acrobat

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2014, 11:18 PM »
Smaller centrotec bits a must.
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Offline fdengel

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2014, 05:25 AM »
Yeah, I've wished for these too at times...

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Offline bryan1982

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2014, 05:37 AM »
Hi guys

They make 3.5, 4.5, 5.5,and 6.5 in a centrtec


Cheers

Bryan

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 12:46 PM »
Hi guys

They make 3.5, 4.5, 5.5,and 6.5 in a centrtec


Cheers

Bryan

In HSS bits yes, but not in the brad-point wood bits they don't.
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Offline andyman

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 03:30 PM »
Ordered a 3mm hss with rotex other day didn't realise they didn't do smaller bits than that

Online Alex

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 05:08 PM »
Hi guys

They make 3.5, 4.5, 5.5,and 6.5 in a centrtec


Cheers

Bryan

In HSS bits yes, but not in the brad-point wood bits they don't.

True, but it's rare to find wood bits with half mm increments. Can't recall ever seen one. It is something typical for metal bits.

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2014, 02:20 AM »
A few companies like Famag and Colt have bradpoint wood drill bits in ½ mm sizes and even 1/10 mm (Star-M).
The ones from Famag are made from HSS-G metal, which is very durable and stays sharp for a long time.
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Online PreferrablyWood

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 09:24 PM »
Hear, hear!

I want the 2 and 2,5 also, together with a 12 mm one.

I too would like a 2, 2,5, they are available in the HSS drill bit set that starts at 1mm, I'm thinking of just getting a set of spiral bits brad point  12, 15, 18 to cover that range...and some normal HSS bits from 12 up to 20.

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Offline Len R

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2017, 05:56 PM »
"I too would like a 2, 2,5, they are available in the HSS drill bit set that starts at 1mm".

Hi, what Centrotec drill bit set starts at 1 mm?  Is there a Festool part # for this set? Is it still available?

Thanks.

Len

Online PreferrablyWood

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2017, 06:41 PM »
I think brad point bits in smaller than 3.5 aren't that necessary I have the HSS set and that get's me to the smallest sizes I need.
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Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline ScotF

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2017, 11:23 PM »
I agree that having a couple sizes smaller than 3mm would be great.

Online Alex

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2017, 03:34 AM »
I use 3 mm thick screws all the time, which in turn makes me need to drill pilot holes with a 2 mm bit all the time.

Online PreferrablyWood

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2017, 04:17 AM »
I think the Centrotec holder is what stopping the sizes of bits going down in size, the logic being the cost of replacing a bit size that has a tendency to break doesn't make sense if the holder costs many times more than the bit. Additionally the HSS bit set that I already own runs in .5mm steps from 3mm to 6.5mm this sets have the fancy holder with the hex screw for replacing bits. This hex screw replacement being fiddly with smaller sizes makes me think just using the CXS with its toolfree chuck would be a simpler way to tackle the situation. Also the CXS is better suited to small bits anyway.

Maybe there is a need for some kind of universal holder set that kan take bits in 3 ranges from 1.5mm to 3.5, 4mm to 6mm and 6.5 to 8 mm
850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions 2 sets of MFS VB 700+1000. CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline Svar

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2017, 04:56 AM »
I think the Centrotec holder is what stopping the sizes of bits going down in size... This hex screw replacement being fiddly with smaller sizes...
You can hold tapered bit in the centrotec holder by friction alone. This is how pilot bit is held inside ZOBO forstner bit. Those pilots are small, 2 mm or so.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2017, 05:23 AM »
YesYesYesYesYesYesYesYes

Although I can use Australian/New Zealand Sutton drill bits in the Festool Jacobs Chuck, it would be more convenient to have 0.5, 1.0. 1.5. 2.0, 2.5 mm and from then whole and 0.5 sizes to 12mm in Centrotec bits.

Oh! Hang on a minute! They do make 0.5 increments from 3.0 mm.   [smile]
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Re: Centrotec drill bits in smaller and 1/2mm sizes!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2017, 06:59 AM »
So Festool needs to offer a friction fit tapered inner diameter centrotec bit holder for bits with a mating shank of for example 3mm offered in sizes: 1,1.5.,2,2.5, 3, 3.5,4,4.5..
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850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions 2 sets of MFS VB 700+1000. CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.