Being a newly converted Festool Junkie I am wondering if anybody would be interested in a Systainer mounted 110v transformer. For those of you who think this a bit of a weird concept let me explain H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered - the reason being that apparently 55V won't kill you as much as 240V  .

Anyway for those of us lucky soles who have to lug one of these heavy things to and from site I think that a ruggedised systainer with an inbuilt transformer with additional space for extension leads  inside the systainer. The 240V power in would use a "Plug it" lead and all of the outlets would be inside. Also using auto sensing circuitry a separate outlet could be used to power other proprietary brand vacuum cleaners.

This would make an ideal addition to a well though out range of tools. Tanos (who make the systainers) even make a daffodil yellow systainer. Only problem might be price but there again it will make life easier.

Anybody who thinks this would be a good idea can contact me through this forum

I agree Completely.  There is no actual law saying you have to have 110V  its just site managers covering their selfs in case of an accident.   Using a RCD will allow you to go on site but like I said site managers are just idiots and wont let you.

The thing is  its a stupid rule sites have as your more likely to drill a 240V in a wall than your are your own cable.

I dont like 110v cus one cant be bothered to carry the transformer also its easy to over load them 3.3kw  when you have halogen lights and then some one using a saw and your SDS or something.  Which then you need to get a much larger transformer which is stupidly heavy!

Also I think 240V tools run much better and are more powerfull than the 110V tools.   The festool EHL 85 planer 110v does  not have electronic brake but the 240v does why?!?! lack of power?!?!?


All my tools are 240V and all jobs I go on let you run 240v  because most the time you need to run a 240v lead to run your transformer so stupid really.



My mate worked for Cadburys for a bit and one of the site manger was RIDICULOUS! The other was okay so two different rules on one job.  Any way the one which was RIDICULOUS.  

1. Wouldnt let your charge your batteries even though their is a socket right next to where you was working you had to charge in the cabin which was 10 min walk away

2. Couldnt use steps had to use scaffold platform to to change a light bulb!

3. Couldnt lean anything on a wall. Spirit levels, brushes all had to be laid down on the floor.

4. Had to tape down all leads on the floor.

5. Had to have all tools tested before coming on site. Costing my mate 28 quid a tool!!  So my mate and his mate decided to just have some of their tools done and borrow each others.

6. Had to wear a hard hat and hivis  even though people in the factory right next to them didnt have to wear a hard hat.



Basically Site is rubbish and isnt worth the hassle unless its really good money!


JMB




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If I had to go on site!   I would use my broken transformer and connect the wires directly to the outlet  thus having 240V which looks like a 110v I would then buy some new festool plug-in leads and put a 110v socket on it. So I would have 240v tools which look liek 110v on a transformer which is running 240v   So the site would think I would be running 110v!     

Only thing is I would have to make sure no one decides to use my transformer and blow their tools up! Haaa Haaa!

Many reasons like mentioned above!  Extra trip to the van  or even two   if you loading your van back up at the end of the day.  Some tools require bigger transformers so its another trip to the van to carry a really heavy  two hander transformer.  I wouldnt mind if it was just a fact of life that you need a transformer but you DONT need  its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V thats what gets me.



  Why?! Why?!  your just wasting more energy converting electricity again to a lower voltage.    If we have to have 110 on site why not just make  UK 110v like America why do we have 240v in the UK doesnt make sence to keep converting from power station  to be transformer up  then to go to a anther to transformer to 240 to a house to transformer it again to a power tool.

Just stupid thats why I moan about it. Just doesnt make sence no need to it.  

Its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V


JMB

how would it mean 2 extra trips?

Well i have a complete cordless set of tools with about 13 batteries 3,0ahm   All I would have to get is a 110 electric planer and chop saw.

Well must be alot of people then who are retards!  alot of small sites I go on have 240 leads running to the transformers  you go and tell them they are retards!

well they are retards in my eyes. everyone i work with that use 110v exclusively do not carry a 240v extension onto the site unless they run it for batt chargers.
as far as overloading a transformer, well thats the same as overloading a extention lead

i rarley need to run an extention for a charger, there is normally a socket near by. if i did it that much i would buy http://www.toolstop.co.uk/index.php?option=shop&page=shop.product_details&product_id=8457&l=uk&utm_source=google&utm_medium=base I have never overloaded my transformer. I wouldn't have a piece of junk like a flip saw in my van.

on my period, were are you? still at school??  Seriously its just my opinion like you have a opinion, we are both expressing them but lets agree to disagree

No props! 

JMB

C I knew you had some involvement with transformers  thought it was shares but that's a good reason also.


JMB

id like a sys2 size transformer

Not exactly on topic, but this is a nice read to understand how and why each country uses the  electrical systems and plug types  they use:

http://gizmodo.com/5391271/giz-explains-why-every-country-has-a-different-fing-plug

what size transformer are you fitting? i just took the lid of my 3.3kva and it will fit in a sys3 if you removed some of the casing, only thing is the weight, 17kg in a 180mm square it will need to be central in the sys to carry easy?

Hi this is some totaly bonkers idea.. I guess it will be ce marked and conform the all the regs?