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Being a newly converted Festool Junkie I am wondering if anybody would be interested in a Systainer mounted 110v transformer. For those of you who think this a bit of a weird concept let me explain H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered - the reason being that apparently 55V won't kill you as much as 240V   . Anyway for those of us lucky soles who have to lug one of these heavy things to and from site I think that a ruggedised systainer with an inbuilt transformer with additional space for extension leads inside the systainer. The 240V power in would use a "Plug it" lead and all of the outlets would be inside. Also using auto sensing circuitry a separate outlet could be used to power other proprietary brand vacuum cleaners. This would make an ideal addition to a well though out range of tools. Tanos (who make the systainers) even make a daffodil yellow systainer. Only problem might be price but there again it will make life easier. Anybody who thinks this would be a good idea can contact me through this forum |
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 12:22 PM » |
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You could easily make your own. Mount a plug-it socket inside the systainer, wired to the inlet. unscrew the 110V sockets from the transformer case, and mount them to the outside of the systainer instead. Or, if you wanted them recessed, make a simple recess in the systainer & mount them there. Bolt the transformer to the base, and that's it. H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered
This has been discussed before on here, and on other forums. As far as I know, there's no *actual* law/regulation that states this, it's just a non-rule that site managers stick to. Another reason why I have never done and probably will never do site work. Personally, I'd much rather use 230V on an RCD than 110V without. |
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 02:06 PM » |
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You could easily make your own. Mount a plug-it socket inside the systainer, wired to the inlet. unscrew the 110V sockets from the transformer case, and mount them to the outside of the systainer instead. Or, if you wanted them recessed, make a simple recess in the systainer & mount them there. Bolt the transformer to the base, and that's it. H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered
This has been discussed before on here, and on other forums. As far as I know, there's no *actual* law/regulation that states this, it's just a non-rule that site managers stick to. Another reason why I have never done and probably will never do site work. Personally, I'd much rather use 230V on an RCD than 110V without. I agree Completely. There is no actual law saying you have to have 110V its just site managers covering their selfs in case of an accident. Using a RCD will allow you to go on site but like I said site managers are just idiots and wont let you. The thing is its a stupid rule sites have as your more likely to drill a 240V in a wall than your are your own cable. I dont like 110v cus one cant be bothered to carry the transformer also its easy to over load them 3.3kw when you have halogen lights and then some one using a saw and your SDS or something. Which then you need to get a much larger transformer which is stupidly heavy! Also I think 240V tools run much better and are more powerfull than the 110V tools. The festool EHL 85 planer 110v does not have electronic brake but the 240v does why?!?! lack of power?!?!? All my tools are 240V and all jobs I go on let you run 240v because most the time you need to run a 240v lead to run your transformer so stupid really. My mate worked for Cadburys for a bit and one of the site manger was RIDICULOUS! The other was okay so two different rules on one job. Any way the one which was RIDICULOUS. 1. Wouldnt let your charge your batteries even though their is a socket right next to where you was working you had to charge in the cabin which was 10 min walk away 2. Couldnt use steps had to use scaffold platform to to change a light bulb! 3. Couldnt lean anything on a wall. Spirit levels, brushes all had to be laid down on the floor. 4. Had to tape down all leads on the floor. 5. Had to have all tools tested before coming on site. Costing my mate 28 quid a tool!! So my mate and his mate decided to just have some of their tools done and borrow each others. 6. Had to wear a hard hat and hivis even though people in the factory right next to them didnt have to wear a hard hat. Basically Site is rubbish and isnt worth the hassle unless its really good money! JMB Edited: OH If I had to go on site! I would use my broken transformer and connect the wires directly to the outlet thus having 240V which looks like a 110v I would then buy some new festool plug-in leads and put a 110v socket on it. So I would have 240v tools which look liek 110v on a transformer which is running 240v So the site would think I would be running 110v! Only thing is I would have to make sure no one decides to use my transformer and blow their tools up! Haaa Haaa! |
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 03:18 PM » |
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I really cannot understand people who moan about having to use 110v I just take as a fact of life and ever since I started in the business 20 years ago I have bought everything in 110v whats the big gripe with using 110v  Sorry Jonny if it sounds like Im having a go at you but I just dont see the problem and I dont just do site work Im often in private houses etc too. |
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 03:27 PM » |
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I really cannot understand people who moan about having to use 110v I just take as a fact of life and ever since I started in the business 20 years ago I have bought everything in 110v whats the big gripe with using 110v Sorry Jonny if it sounds like Im having a go at you but I just dont see the problem and I dont just do site work Im often in private houses etc too. Many reasons like mentioned above! Extra trip to the van or even two if you loading your van back up at the end of the day. Some tools require bigger transformers so its another trip to the van to carry a really heavy two hander transformer. I wouldnt mind if it was just a fact of life that you need a transformer but you DONT need its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V thats what gets me. Why?! Why?! your just wasting more energy converting electricity again to a lower voltage. If we have to have 110 on site why not just make UK 110v like America why do we have 240v in the UK doesnt make sence to keep converting from power station to be transformer up then to go to a anther to transformer to 240 to a house to transformer it again to a power tool. Just stupid thats why I moan about it. Just doesnt make sence no need to it. Its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V JMB |
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 03:29 PM » |
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You could easily make your own. Mount a plug-it socket inside the systainer, wired to the inlet. unscrew the 110V sockets from the transformer case, and mount them to the outside of the systainer instead. Or, if you wanted them recessed, make a simple recess in the systainer & mount them there. Bolt the transformer to the base, and that's it. H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered
This has been discussed before on here, and on other forums. As far as I know, there's no *actual* law/regulation that states this, it's just a non-rule that site managers stick to. Another reason why I have never done and probably will never do site work. Personally, I'd much rather use 230V on an RCD than 110V without. I agree Completely. There is no actual law saying you have to have 110V its just site managers covering their selfs in case of an accident. Using a RCD will allow you to go on site but like I said site managers are just idiots and wont let you. The thing is its a stupid rule sites have as your more likely to drill a 240V in a wall than your are your own cable. I dont like 110v cus one cant be bothered to carry the transformer also its easy to over load them 3.3kw when you have halogen lights and then some one using a saw and your SDS or something. Which then you need to get a much larger transformer which is stupidly heavy! Also I think 240V tools run much better and are more powerfull than the 110V tools. The festool EHL 85 planer 110v does not have electronic brake but the 240v does why?!?! lack of power?!?!? All my tools are 240V and all jobs I go on let you run 240v because most the time you need to run a 240v lead to run your transformer so stupid really.My mate worked for Cadburys for a bit and one of the site manger was RIDICULOUS! The other was okay so two different rules on one job. Any way the one which was RIDICULOUS. 1. Wouldnt let your charge your batteries even though their is a socket right next to where you was working you had to charge in the cabin which was 10 min walk away 2. Couldnt use steps had to use scaffold platform to to change a light bulb! 3. Couldnt lean anything on a wall. Spirit levels, brushes all had to be laid down on the floor. 4. Had to tape down all leads on the floor. 5. Had to have all tools tested before coming on site. Costing my mate 28 quid a tool!! So my mate and his mate decided to just have some of their tools done and borrow each others. 6. Had to wear a hard hat and hivis even though people in the factory right next to them didnt have to wear a hard hat. Basically Site is rubbish and isnt worth the hassle unless its really good money! JMB Edited: OH If I had to go on site! I would use my broken transformer and connect the wires directly to the outlet thus having 240V which looks like a 110v I would then buy some new festool plug-in leads and put a 110v socket on it. So I would have 240v tools which look liek 110v on a transformer which is running 240v So the site would think I would be running 110v! Only thing is I would have to make sure no one decides to use my transformer and blow their tools up! Haaa Haaa! OR buy 110v leads, what kind of retard runs a 240 lead to a tranny. What the problem with a transformer, weighs less than a bloody chopsaw. Most bigger sites have a transformer for you to use, i large 1 with alot more outlets. i like to be flexible, if work dries up and you have to turn to site work what you gonna do?? also the way 110v plugs stay together is much better. only thing i change is a longer lead on the tranny so when plugged in a kitchen it stays on the floor, |
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 03:30 PM » |
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I really cannot understand people who moan about having to use 110v I just take as a fact of life and ever since I started in the business 20 years ago I have bought everything in 110v whats the big gripe with using 110v Sorry Jonny if it sounds like Im having a go at you but I just dont see the problem and I dont just do site work Im often in private houses etc too. Many reasons like mentioned above! Extra trip to the van or even two if you loading your van back up at the end of the day. Some tools require bigger transformers so its another trip to the van to carry a really heavy two hander transformer. Why?! Why?! your just wasting more energy converting electricity again to a lower voltage. If we have to have 110 on site why not just make UK 110v like America why do we have 240v in the UK doesnt make sence to keep converting from power station to be transformer up then to go to a anther to transformer to 240 to a house to transformer it again to a power tool. Just stupid thats why I moan about it. Just doesnt make sence no need to it. Its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V JMB how would it mean 2 extra trips? |
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I really cannot understand people who moan about having to use 110v I just take as a fact of life and ever since I started in the business 20 years ago I have bought everything in 110v whats the big gripe with using 110v Sorry Jonny if it sounds like Im having a go at you but I just dont see the problem and I dont just do site work Im often in private houses etc too. Many reasons like mentioned above! Extra trip to the van or even two if you loading your van back up at the end of the day. Some tools require bigger transformers so its another trip to the van to carry a really heavy two hander transformer. Why?! Why?! your just wasting more energy converting electricity again to a lower voltage. If we have to have 110 on site why not just make UK 110v like America why do we have 240v in the UK doesnt make sence to keep converting from power station to be transformer up then to go to a anther to transformer to 240 to a house to transformer it again to a power tool. Just stupid thats why I moan about it. Just doesnt make sence no need to it. Its just the some one to blame culture why sites make you use 110V JMB how would it mean 2 extra trips? both hands full on the first trip unloading your van you then need to go and get the transformer! You have both hands full on the first trip loading your van and you then need to get your transformer. You get it?! |
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 03:34 PM » |
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You could easily make your own. Mount a plug-it socket inside the systainer, wired to the inlet. unscrew the 110V sockets from the transformer case, and mount them to the outside of the systainer instead. Or, if you wanted them recessed, make a simple recess in the systainer & mount them there. Bolt the transformer to the base, and that's it. H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered
This has been discussed before on here, and on other forums. As far as I know, there's no *actual* law/regulation that states this, it's just a non-rule that site managers stick to. Another reason why I have never done and probably will never do site work. Personally, I'd much rather use 230V on an RCD than 110V without. I agree Completely. There is no actual law saying you have to have 110V its just site managers covering their selfs in case of an accident. Using a RCD will allow you to go on site but like I said site managers are just idiots and wont let you. The thing is its a stupid rule sites have as your more likely to drill a 240V in a wall than your are your own cable. I dont like 110v cus one cant be bothered to carry the transformer also its easy to over load them 3.3kw when you have halogen lights and then some one using a saw and your SDS or something. Which then you need to get a much larger transformer which is stupidly heavy! Also I think 240V tools run much better and are more powerfull than the 110V tools. The festool EHL 85 planer 110v does not have electronic brake but the 240v does why?!?! lack of power?!?!? All my tools are 240V and all jobs I go on let you run 240v because most the time you need to run a 240v lead to run your transformer so stupid really.My mate worked for Cadburys for a bit and one of the site manger was RIDICULOUS! The other was okay so two different rules on one job. Any way the one which was RIDICULOUS. 1. Wouldnt let your charge your batteries even though their is a socket right next to where you was working you had to charge in the cabin which was 10 min walk away 2. Couldnt use steps had to use scaffold platform to to change a light bulb! 3. Couldnt lean anything on a wall. Spirit levels, brushes all had to be laid down on the floor. 4. Had to tape down all leads on the floor. 5. Had to have all tools tested before coming on site. Costing my mate 28 quid a tool!! So my mate and his mate decided to just have some of their tools done and borrow each others. 6. Had to wear a hard hat and hivis even though people in the factory right next to them didnt have to wear a hard hat. Basically Site is rubbish and isnt worth the hassle unless its really good money! JMB Edited: OH If I had to go on site! I would use my broken transformer and connect the wires directly to the outlet thus having 240V which looks like a 110v I would then buy some new festool plug-in leads and put a 110v socket on it. So I would have 240v tools which look liek 110v on a transformer which is running 240v So the site would think I would be running 110v! Only thing is I would have to make sure no one decides to use my transformer and blow their tools up! Haaa Haaa! OR buy 110v leads, what kind of retard runs a 240 lead to a tranny. What the problem with a transformer, weighs less than a bloody chopsaw. Most bigger sites have a transformer for you to use, i large 1 with alot more outlets. i like to be flexible, if work dries up and you have to turn to site work what you gonna do?? also the way 110v plugs stay together is much better. only thing i change is a longer lead on the tranny so when plugged in a kitchen it stays on the floor, Well i have a complete cordless set of tools with about 13 batteries 3,0ahm All I would have to get is a 110 electric planer and chop saw. |
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 03:35 PM » |
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nope, dont get it, i count that as 1 extra trip. sack trolley with tools on the tranny on top is what i do=1 trip
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 03:37 PM » |
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You could easily make your own. Mount a plug-it socket inside the systainer, wired to the inlet. unscrew the 110V sockets from the transformer case, and mount them to the outside of the systainer instead. Or, if you wanted them recessed, make a simple recess in the systainer & mount them there. Bolt the transformer to the base, and that's it. H & S requires that all Site equipment used on commercial building sites should be 110 CTE powered
This has been discussed before on here, and on other forums. As far as I know, there's no *actual* law/regulation that states this, it's just a non-rule that site managers stick to. Another reason why I have never done and probably will never do site work. Personally, I'd much rather use 230V on an RCD than 110V without. I agree Completely. There is no actual law saying you have to have 110V its just site managers covering their selfs in case of an accident. Using a RCD will allow you to go on site but like I said site managers are just idiots and wont let you. The thing is its a stupid rule sites have as your more likely to drill a 240V in a wall than your are your own cable. I dont like 110v cus one cant be bothered to carry the transformer also its easy to over load them 3.3kw when you have halogen lights and then some one using a saw and your SDS or something. Which then you need to get a much larger transformer which is stupidly heavy! Also I think 240V tools run much better and are more powerfull than the 110V tools. The festool EHL 85 planer 110v does not have electronic brake but the 240v does why?!?! lack of power?!?!? All my tools are 240V and all jobs I go on let you run 240v because most the time you need to run a 240v lead to run your transformer so stupid really.My mate worked for Cadburys for a bit and one of the site manger was RIDICULOUS! The other was okay so two different rules on one job. Any way the one which was RIDICULOUS. 1. Wouldnt let your charge your batteries even though their is a socket right next to where you was working you had to charge in the cabin which was 10 min walk away 2. Couldnt use steps had to use scaffold platform to to change a light bulb! 3. Couldnt lean anything on a wall. Spirit levels, brushes all had to be laid down on the floor. 4. Had to tape down all leads on the floor. 5. Had to have all tools tested before coming on site. Costing my mate 28 quid a tool!! So my mate and his mate decided to just have some of their tools done and borrow each others. 6. Had to wear a hard hat and hivis even though people in the factory right next to them didnt have to wear a hard hat. Basically Site is rubbish and isnt worth the hassle unless its really good money! JMB Edited: OH If I had to go on site! I would use my broken transformer and connect the wires directly to the outlet thus having 240V which looks like a 110v I would then buy some new festool plug-in leads and put a 110v socket on it. So I would have 240v tools which look liek 110v on a transformer which is running 240v So the site would think I would be running 110v! Only thing is I would have to make sure no one decides to use my transformer and blow their tools up! Haaa Haaa! OR buy 110v leads, what kind of retard runs a 240 lead to a tranny. What the problem with a transformer, weighs less than a bloody chopsaw. Most bigger sites have a transformer for you to use, i large 1 with alot more outlets. i like to be flexible, if work dries up and you have to turn to site work what you gonna do?? also the way 110v plugs stay together is much better. only thing i change is a longer lead on the tranny so when plugged in a kitchen it stays on the floor, Well must be alot of people then who are retards! alot of small sites I go on have 240 leads running to the transformers you go and tell them they are retards! |
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 03:40 PM » |
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nope, dont get it, i count that as 1 extra trip. sack trolley with tools on the tranny on top is what i do=1 trip
Well your sites must be very clean and you must have a lovely road made for you where you park your van to use your trolley. Does it go up stairs?!?! Does it go upscaffold?!?!? Does it fly?!?! |
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well they are retards in my eyes. everyone i work with that use 110v exclusively do not carry a 240v extension onto the site unless they run it for batt chargers.
as far as overloading a transformer, well thats the same as overloading a extention lead
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 03:46 PM » |
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well they are retards in my eyes. everyone i work with that use 110v exclusively do not carry a 240v extension onto the site unless they run it for batt chargers.
as far as overloading a transformer, well thats the same as overloading a extention lead
HA! So why not plug the transformer in the extension lead with the chargers?!?! As far as overloadin a transformer is very easily overloaded. Well the dewalt flip saw doesnt even run on properly on 3.3kw I had to spin the blade before I pressed start as it was drawing so much power it would trip the transformer. |
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i rarley need to run an extention for a charger, there is normally a socket near by. I have never overloaded my transformer. I would have a piece of junk like a flip saw in my van.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 03:59 PM » |
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on my period, were are you? still at school?? Seriously its just my opinion like you have a opinion, we are both expressing them but lets agree to disagree
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 03:59 PM » |
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You just edited you post so didnt see this. So your transforming again!Again and Again I think you just like transformers thats why your on your high horse! |
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 04:00 PM » |
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on my period, were are you? still at school?? Seriously its just my opinion like you have a opinion, we are both expressing them but lets agree to disagree
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You just edited you post so didnt see this. So your transforming again!Again and Again I think you just like transformers thats why your on your high horse! right thats it, ive had enough, wheres my phone, im ringing Optimus Prime |
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 04:09 PM » |
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C I knew you had some involvement with transformers thought it was shares but that's a good reason also.
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OK so I seem to have stirred it up a bit and not being from these parts (Sunnier climes is what I am used to) I too believe that the HSE are just a bunch of overpaid eejits that have nothing better to do with their time than make a job almost impossible to do. (nothing like a 2 hour job taking 8 because of all of the bureaucratic terrorism) I agree 100% with an RCD being far safer than 110V as most of this places wiring is sub standard even by some 3rd world countries norms - I wouldn't trust my life on new build electrics let alone the builds that were done when Noah was still a glint in his father's eye. As for Site Agents and Managers I did a job recently where one gave us a Toolbox talk about Hard hats and ended his speech with "You now have nobody to sue if anything goes wrong and my arse is covered" Best thing is he then sh*t on a sparky working hard hatless in the ceiling void where only the concrete could fall on him. Lo and behold the said agent then walked past another sparky about 10 minutes later hard hatless and narrowly missed having his left ear removed from his vacuum chamber by a falling Cable tray bracket. Priceless. . |
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id like a sys2 size transformer
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Why on earth would you use a different voltage on a building site? What a ridiculous rule. With 110 Volt vs 240 Volt you have more then twice the current. More current = more loss, more heat, more burning. They might as well have you use 6Volts and use square inch copper cables.  |
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2010, 04:12 AM » |
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Not exactly on topic, but this is a nice read to understand how and why each country uses the electrical systems and plug types they use: http://gizmodo.com/5391271/giz-explains-why-every-country-has-a-different-fing-plug |
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The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.
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egapeg
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2010, 04:55 PM » |
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id like a sys2 size transformer
I think that a Sys 3 would work better as you can pack a coiled extension in the space inside the box. I am working on it and will hopefully get some pics soon. |
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speed
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2010, 08:32 AM » |
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what size transformer are you fitting? i just took the lid of my 3.3kva and it will fit in a sys3 if you removed some of the casing, only thing is the weight, 17kg in a 180mm square it will need to be central in the sys to carry easy?
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has made the change. now 100% T-loc |
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egapeg
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2010, 03:53 PM » |
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what size transformer are you fitting? i just took the lid of my 3.3kva and it will fit in a sys3 if you removed some of the casing, only thing is the weight, 17kg in a 180mm square it will need to be central in the sys to carry easy?
Yes I have a 3.3 kVA Transformer too but mine isn't quite so heavy. I plan to totally remove it from its case and as you say fit it dead center of the systainer. I plan to ruggedise the systainer using PVC sheet cut to size to fit snugly inside the systainer. The power outlets will be mounted on either side of the transformer on a lower level so the plugs when plugged in don't stick above the rim. I will use a 240 V Plug It Lead with a Plug It socket from the Festool Vacuum system, This will enable the cable to be removed and placed into the Systainer with any extensions. Painted Daffodil yellow unless I can get a yellow one from www.kofferfun shop.de. |
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The trouble with Bob is its all about Bob
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2010, 04:12 PM » |
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Hi this is some totaly bonkers idea.. I guess it will be ce marked and conform the all the regs?  |
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If the milk turns out to be sour, I ain't the kind of **** to drink it.......
Why do Festool accessories only have a two month guarantee here in the UK ?
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egapeg
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2010, 04:56 PM » |
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What is bonkers about it? As for CE Marks that only applies to equipment that is made to be sold. As along as it passes PAT tests all is fine. Also if it is protected in the box and can be transported easier then it is more likely that it will be less likely to be abused like most other "siteformers".
What I do think is bonkers is the way that Health and Safety has been taken to the extreme in this country. Don't get me wrong there is a place for H&S on all jobs but the way that it is often implemented make site working almost unbearable to the point that I can understand why some people just won't do it. I suppose it is put in place to protect the idiots from themselves, which in my mind is wrong if they are idiots let them kill themselves.
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