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Offline RobWoodCutter

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Vectura First pass
« on: January 04, 2015, 03:55 AM »



I have a lot of Festool, so this is based on what I see compared to them..

-Well made, no question
-Nice accessories

-As others have said, this should have had a depth stop on the plunger similar to what is on the Routers.
-It should have come with a  hex wrench for attaching/detaching the adapter (pennies on the dollar.)
-Festool should have designed a flat base for cutting/trimming bottoms of doors (think of something similar to the domino base.) that would be knob adjustable for height above the floor. That way it would rest flat on the floor.
-Dust collection should have at least been attempted (Festool at least tried on the jigsaws, only succeeding with the dust on the top and useless on the underside of the board being cut. )

And if someone suggests this would have raised the price too high...you can't be serious.. if it had all these accessories and came it at $800/$900, we green coolaid drinkers would have still bought it.  Rob

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 05:35 AM »
I am a serious hobbiest, not a daily user of the Vecturo, so my opinions are from that aspect of woodworking.

The depth stop issue isn't a big deal with me as there are easy work arounds.

The amount of sawdust I've experenced has not been a problem. A smoke collector would be nice.

A Domino-like base is something I would pay for... Something like a horizontal plunge fixture. I'd like to be able to clamp such a base to the workpiece as the Vecturo is difficult to keep steady as it first contacts the wood.
Birdhunter

Offline joiner1970

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 05:39 AM »


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I have a lot of Festool, so this is based on what I see compared to them..

-Well made, no question
-Nice accessories

-As others have said, this should have had a depth stop on the plunger similar to what is on the Routers.
-It should have come with a  hex wrench for attaching/detaching the adapter (pennies on the dollar.)
-Festool should have designed a flat base for cutting/trimming bottoms of doors (think of something similar to the domino base.) that would be knob adjustable for height above the floor. That way it would rest flat on the floor.
-Dust collection should have at least been attempted (Festool at least tried on the jigsaws, only succeeding with the dust on the top and useless on the underside of the board being cut. )

And if someone suggests this would have raised the price too high...you can't be serious.. if it had all these accessories and came it at $800/$900, we green coolaid drinkers would have still bought it.  Rob

I don't think you have enough clamps there lol [emoji6]

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 07:38 AM »
I plan to show the picture to my wife who comments about the number (paltry compared to the OP's collection) of clamps I have.

Thanks for the public service you have done for us woodworkers!
Birdhunter

Offline WarnerConstCo.

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 10:19 AM »
Looks like those tools are being held against their will. 


Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 11:39 AM »
I plan to show the picture to my wife who comments about the number (paltry compared to the OP's collection) of clamps I have.

Thanks for the public service you have done for us woodworkers!

That was just about half....You will also need to tell her you need variety of types/sizes....

Offline PA floor guy

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 12:31 PM »
Wow.  Is that a store or your shop.   That looks like a dream I've had a few times, I have near a hundred bessey clamps, but you have ALOT.

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 01:35 PM »
Wow.  Is that a store or your shop.   That looks like a dream I've had a few times, I have near a hundred bessey clamps, but you have ALOT.

Yes, my shop...dream shop...

Offline neilc

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 03:12 PM »
You must be a direct account with Bessey!  Looks like you buy them 12 dozen at a time!

Great shop and color coordination!

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 02:14 AM »
I don't think I have posted the shop pics here.

A question came up at WoodWorkingTalk about how many clamps do you have and it led to me posting the whole shop (Tools and wood room.)

Yes the shop currently has three color themes (Powermatic mustard/black strips, Bessey red/black, and Festool green/gray.) I have two Powermatic signs I need to put back up on the knee wall supporting the clamps.

I have a Bessey banner that Bessey sent me (currently hanging above the clamps) after seeing my "wall of clamps".

Unfortunately, I have no Festool banners or posters that I can put up in "Festool Land"  [big grin]. There is a banner/sign company that is just down the street that I could probably get them to make up a "Festool Banner." I would move the Bessey banner to the other side over the smaller misc clamps and put the Festool banner over the Festool corner of the shop....



Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 04:21 AM »
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I have a lot of Festool, so this is based on what I see compared to them..

-Well made, no question
-Nice accessories

-As others have said, this should have had a depth stop on the plunger similar to what is on the Routers.
-It should have come with a  hex wrench for attaching/detaching the adapter (pennies on the dollar.)
-Festool should have designed a flat base for cutting/trimming bottoms of doors (think of something similar to the domino base.) that would be knob adjustable for height above the floor. That way it would rest flat on the floor.
-Dust collection should have at least been attempted (Festool at least tried on the jigsaws, only succeeding with the dust on the top and useless on the underside of the board being cut. )

And if someone suggests this would have raised the price too high...you can't be serious.. if it had all these accessories and came it at $800/$900, we green coolaid drinkers would have still bought it.  Rob

That is an amazing collection of clamps - did you accidentally put a zero at the end of the quantity box when ordering them?

I once asked for a length of 1" thick rope and this 10 ton truck, full of rope, arrived. My boss went mad but luckily it was an error at the depot. Despite that I was made to justify the quantity so I built an aerial ropeway, scrambling nets and a death slide in one of our national parks. I then let about 300 children use it for a couple of weeks. I managed to get it taken down before the rangers found out.

I might copy your idea putting the CMS OF on a base with drawers and castors - with an OF 2200 in the CMS (and my arthritis) it is getting difficult to lift as it is.

Nice workshop - it looks as though it is part of an exhibition somewhere.

Peter

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 04:19 PM »
That is an amazing collection of clamps - did you accidentally put a zero at the end of the quantity box when ordering them?

I once asked for a length of 1" thick rope and this 10 ton truck, full of rope, arrived. My boss went mad but luckily it was an error at the depot. Despite that I was made to justify the quantity so I built an aerial ropeway, scrambling nets and a death slide in one of our national parks. I then let about 300 children use it for a couple of weeks. I managed to get it taken down before the rangers found out.

I might copy your idea putting the CMS OF on a base with drawers and castors - with an OF 2200 in the CMS (and my arthritis) it is getting difficult to lift as it is.

Nice workshop - it looks as though it is part of an exhibition somewhere.

Peter

I just watched out for sales on the clamps. It is interesting, how the price used to bounce around in the middle of the night on clamps. I got some good deals for sure.
The mobile base for the CMS does help a great deal. Get it with locking casters though!
Rob

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 11:15 PM »

That is an amazing collection of clamps - did you accidentally put a zero at the end of the quantity box when ordering them?


Peter
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hahahahahah good comment Peter, I am very jealous of his clamps as well

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 11:23 PM »
Hi Rob,

I also put a in and out feed table on my cms table and I notice you moved your power supply as well.

can you tell me how you bolted it on so its configured that way? or possibly show me a closer picture,
also what am I seeing on the right side of the bottom of your table? am I seeing a red switch?

As I placed it in a similar location but under the table. Your location is much better.

PS don't you find the table so excellent after getting the infeed? I wouldn't want to go back.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 11:32 PM by Benjamin »

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 12:03 AM »
Hi Rob,

I also put a in and out feed table on my cms table and I notice you moved your power supply as well.

can you tell me how you bolted it on so its configured that way? or possibly show me a closer picture,
also what am I seeing on the right side of the bottom of your table? am I seeing a red switch?

As I placed it in a similar location but under the table. Your location is much better.

PS don't you find the table so excellent after getting the infeed? I wouldn't want to go back.

Benjamin,

I just used the existing hole in the leg and used a 1/4" bolt to attached the existing on/off switch. I mounted a second switch (with removable key) that is wired between the router and the Festool switch.

If I want to change a bit or adjust it I can kill the power at the second switch and remove the lockout key. It is also good because when I am using the sliding table, once it is finished the cut, I can tap the second switch with my knee and shut off the router.

You may not have noticed but I also re-drilled the slide table support bracket and centered it on the overall CMS. Without doing that the sliding table either favors the infeed or the outfeed side of the table.

Here is cropped picture that kind of shows how it is mounted. I will get a better picture tomorrow night when I get home from work.

Rob
 

Offline copcarcollector

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2015, 12:13 AM »
Rob / Benjamin- Is the location of the Festool switch the only thing impeding adding the infeed table? In other words, if the switch is moved, can I simply add the infeed table (which is technically an outfeed table, correct?), without doing additional modifications to the CMS unit or the infeed table? THANKS in advance-

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2015, 12:22 AM »
yes thats it. both sides of the table are exactly built the same.


the in feed is really nice to have. go for it .

Offline copcarcollector

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2015, 12:25 AM »
Thanks! Adding it to my shopping list right now...  [laughing]

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2015, 12:29 AM »
Hi Rob,

I also put a in and out feed table on my cms table and I notice you moved your power supply as well.

can you tell me how you bolted it on so its configured that way? or possibly show me a closer picture,
also what am I seeing on the right side of the bottom of your table? am I seeing a red switch?

As I placed it in a similar location but under the table. Your location is much better.

PS don't you find the table so excellent after getting the infeed? I wouldn't want to go back.

Benjamin,

I just used the existing hole in the leg and used a 1/4" bolt to attached the existing on/off switch. I mounted a second switch (with removable key) that is wired between the router and the Festool switch.

If I want to change a bit or adjust it I can kill the power at the second switch and remove the lockout key. It is also good because when I am using the sliding table, once it is finished the cut, I can tap the second switch with my knee and shut off the router.

You may not have noticed but I also re-drilled the slide table support bracket and centered it on the overall CMS. Without doing that the sliding table either favors the infeed or the outfeed side of the table.

Here is cropped picture that kind of shows how it is mounted. I will get a better picture tomorrow night when I get home from work.
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Rob


wow Rob.... nice work on centering the sliding table and the additional switch... really nice.

do you have a solution for micro adjusting the table fence as well??

I made one out of a woodpecker device. I'd like to hear your solution on this if you've done something.

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2015, 12:46 AM »
Not sure exactly what you are referring to on micro adjust.

I use the miter fence attached to the sliding table as a reference to setting up the table fence to make it parallel to the sliding table. From there, I use card stock or a feeler gage to tweak the fence backward/forward until I get the exact cut I am looking for.

Please show me some pics of the micro adjust you are referring to. Thanks.
Rob

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2015, 02:26 AM »
you have so many great customizations I just thought I'd ask if you decided to do any thing with the fence to add a micro adjust.

I attached a wood pecker micro adjust to a crown stop so I could move it in very small increments .
but if your feeler gauge is working for you thats all that matters .

thanks for all the pictures, Ill definitely be changing the location of the switch and DEFINITELY the sliding table.



Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2015, 02:38 AM »
....

The mobile base for the CMS does help a great deal. Get it with locking casters though!

Rob

Yes, I use locking castors on all of my mobile benches and tools supports. I have just spotted your workshop thread and would like people to be aware of it - it is simply amazing.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/workshops-and-mobile-vehicle-based-shops/workshop-work-in-progress/msg363982/?topicseen#msg363982

Peter

Offline RobWoodCutter

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2015, 11:25 PM »
Benjamin,

Nice micro adjustment rig.

Here is a shot of how I attached the switches looking from the inside of the CMS.

This is the extra switch:


Here is the Festool switch:


I used the Festool bracket to secure the cord and cut a short piece of metal angle.

Rob

Offline Benjamin

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 12:44 AM »
great, thx a lot Rob

Offline narrowboatboy

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2015, 12:58 PM »
I have always said you can never have enough clamps, well i think this chap has given it a sound thrashing
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Offline cpap

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2016, 04:05 PM »
you have so many great customizations I just thought I'd ask if you decided to do any thing with the fence to add a micro adjust.

I attached a wood pecker micro adjust to a crown stop so I could move it in very small increments .
but if your feeler gauge is working for you thats all that matters .

thanks for all the pictures, Ill definitely be changing the location of the switch and DEFINITELY the sliding table.

Old but good! Ordered the micro adjust from woodpecker and will pick up the crown stop at my local.

Will also pick up the In feed. 

Thanks all.

Offline Steve-Rice

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Re: Vectura First pass
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2016, 09:21 AM »
Fabulous looking shop photos.  I would love to see more!

We should start a "show us your shop" thread...