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Offline Trevin

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3M PPS Question
« on: April 26, 2017, 04:25 PM »
I just bought the 3M PPS system and plan on using it with a Fuji MM5.  I put the liner in the cup and the cup on the gun with the adapter.  I then hooked up the hose coming from the gun and connected the other end to the 3M cup.  When I turn the gun on the liner does NOT collapse. 

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Trevin [scared]

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Offline montyss

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 06:05 PM »
First make sure the liner and the cover with the strainer in it is sealed together good(flat)
not crooked then attach the ring holding them together snug..
Next turn the gun upside down and pull the trigger till the air is bleed out of the cup .

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 06:10 PM »
If the check valve is in line make sure the flow direction is correct.

If it is a bottom feed gun, flip the unit over and pull the trigger (as mentioned above), top feed, just pull the trigger.

Tom

Offline montyss

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 06:22 PM »
Yep I was just going to edit my post 😊 depends on the gun type
Thanks....

Offline Twoodman66

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 06:53 PM »
I've been using the pps without check valve on the T75g. Is the check valve necessary?

Offline bnaboatbuilder

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 08:18 PM »
I don't use the check valve anymore since using PPS cups beginning several years ago. There is no need for the valve.
- John

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2017, 09:37 PM »
I've been using the pps without check valve on the T75g. Is the check valve necessary?

Not in my opinion.

Tom

Offline wptski

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 08:59 AM »
I just bought the 3M PPS system and plan on using it with a Fuji MM5.  I put the liner in the cup and the cup on the gun with the adapter.  I then hooked up the hose coming from the gun and connected the other end to the 3M cup.  When I turn the gun on the liner does NOT collapse. 

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Trevin [scared]
You may have the exact same problem that I had.  The liner isn't sealing on the cup rim and this leak can't be heard over the sound of the turbine if near by.  To verify with just with water in a sealed cup for a test, spray some water around the top of the cup looking for bubbles.  I use two liners, it's a bit tight but works for me.
Bill
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Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 09:22 AM »
I just bought the 3M PPS system and plan on using it with a Fuji MM5.  I put the liner in the cup and the cup on the gun with the adapter.  I then hooked up the hose coming from the gun and connected the other end to the 3M cup.  When I turn the gun on the liner does NOT collapse. 

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Trevin [scared]

Trevin,
I have your same setup. The cup will not fill with air until you open the Fluid adjusting knob and you press on the trigger.

Cheers,
JC

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 12:41 PM »
I just bought the 3M PPS system and plan on using it with a Fuji MM5.  I put the liner in the cup and the cup on the gun with the adapter.  I then hooked up the hose coming from the gun and connected the other end to the 3M cup.  When I turn the gun on the liner does NOT collapse. 

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Trevin [scared]



Trevin,
I have your same setup. The cup will not fill with air until you open the Fluid adjusting knob and you press on the trigger.

Cheers,
JC


Mine does......

Tom

Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 12:45 PM »
Tom,

Your set up is different. I take the air from the gun where the check valve usually goes and not directly from the hose like you have it. I believe.

JC

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 12:51 PM »
Tom,

Your set up is different. I take the air from the gun where the check valve usually goes and not directly from the hose like you have it. I believe.

JC

I know, just messin' with you.

Tom

Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 12:58 PM »
Tom,

Your set up is different. I take the air from the gun where the check valve usually goes and not directly from the hose like you have it. I believe.

JC

I know, just messin' with you.

Tom

I knew that. Just didn't want to confuse Trevin.
By the way, I love this system. Sprays much better then using a pot from Fuji or any other manufacturer.
Cheers,
JC

Offline wptski

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2017, 01:10 PM »
Tom,

Your set up is different. I take the air from the gun where the check valve usually goes and not directly from the hose like you have it. I believe.

JC
That wouldn't really matter where the air comes.  I have the same set up as Tom and the liner does collapse up to a certain point without pulling the trigger.  I close the air off to the gun up to the point(sometimes not! [big grin]) where I think it's going squirt a stream and then apply air to the to gun.  Air and/or product has to have some path to come out or else nothing moves.
Bill
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Offline Trevin

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2017, 02:36 PM »
Thanks guys.  I will give it another go this weekend. 

If you do NOT use the check valve, do you need to plug the end on the gun?

Trevin

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 03:12 PM »
Thanks guys.  I will give it another go this weekend. 

If you do NOT use the check valve, do you need to plug the end on the gun?

Trevin

The small hose, with or without the check valve needs to be connected to the gun and cup.

Do not use the cup that came with the gun without a check valve, bad things will happen.

Tom

Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2017, 03:40 PM »
Hi Trevin,

Here's a photo of how I have the PPS, large cup, attached to my T70 gun. Works great.

Cheers,
JC

Offline Trevin

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2017, 04:57 PM »
@JCLP
That is how I had it setup except I have the top feed gun.  I will try it again.  One other thing.  Does the 3M adapter fit onto your gun or does it seem to bottom out when threading it on to the gun.  Should I use teflon tape there?

Trevin

Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2017, 05:15 PM »
@JCLP
That is how I had it setup except I have the top feed gun.  I will try it again.  One other thing.  Does the 3M adapter fit onto your gun or does it seem to bottom out when threading it on to the gun.  Should I use teflon tape there?

Trevin
Mine does not bottom out. I use adapter #18 and it is very tight.


Offline wptski

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2017, 08:16 PM »
Mine does not bottom out. I use adapter #18 and it is very tight.
Fuji seems to have a problem with threads.  I've seen replacement parts where the threads were ragged and/or rough.[/quote]
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 10:13 PM by wptski »
Bill
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Offline montyss

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2017, 08:51 PM »
Cracked me up     "Do not use the cup that came with the gun without a check valve, bad things will happen."
Hopefully we don't try that or have a check valve that's stuck wide open

Thanks guys.  I will give it another go this weekend. 

If you do NOT use the check valve, do you need to plug the end on the gun?

Trevin

The small hose, with or without the check valve needs to be connected to the gun and cup.

Do not use the cup that came with the gun without a check valve, bad things will happen.

Tom

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2017, 09:14 PM »
Cracked me up     "Do not use the cup that came with the gun without a check valve, bad things will happen."
Hopefully we don't try that or have a check valve that's stuck wide open

Thanks guys.  I will give it another go this weekend. 

If you do NOT use the check valve, do you need to plug the end on the gun?

Trevin

The small hose, with or without the check valve needs to be connected to the gun and cup.

Do not use the cup that came with the gun without a check valve, bad things will happen.

Tom

You'll learn very quickly how to completely disassemble the gun and clean it.

After you clean the spatter off whatever you were shooting.

Tom

Offline montyss

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Re: 3M PPS Question
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2017, 10:40 PM »
Well said Tom