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Offline Scott Burt

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New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« on: January 29, 2017, 01:05 PM »
Sprayer manufacturers have been putting engineering resources into tips for the first time in a while.

The first result is a new RAC style Fine Finish Low Pressure tip from Graco. Similar to the previous green fine finish switch tips but with a redesign. Word is that Titan is about to roll some out as well.

For a quick take on what they are and what they do, here is an update:

http://topcoatreview.com/2017/01/new-fine-finish-low-pressure-tips-by-graco/

I know a lot of FOG members use HVLP, there is some new tech there as well that will be worth knowing about...soon.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 01:57 PM »
Sprayer manufacturers have been putting engineering resources into tips for the first time in a while.

The first result is a new RAC style Fine Finish Low Pressure tip from Graco. Similar to the previous green fine finish switch tips but with a redesign. Word is that Titan is about to roll some out as well.

For a quick take on what they are and what they do, here is an update:

http://topcoatreview.com/2017/01/new-fine-finish-low-pressure-tips-by-graco/

I know a lot of FOG members use HVLP, there is some new tech there as well that will be worth knowing about...soon.

If that ain't a tease about a Festool finishing solution i don't know what is. 
"What you have to do tomorrow, do today.  What you have to do today, do now."  - a wise grandfather who was clearly talking about purchasing Festools

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 03:21 PM »
Sprayer manufacturers have been putting engineering resources into tips for the first time in a while.

The first result is a new RAC style Fine Finish Low Pressure tip from Graco. Similar to the previous green fine finish switch tips but with a redesign. Word is that Titan is about to roll some out as well.

For a quick take on what they are and what they do, here is an update:

http://topcoatreview.com/2017/01/new-fine-finish-low-pressure-tips-by-graco/

I know a lot of FOG members use HVLP, there is some new tech there as well that will be worth knowing about...soon.

If that ain't a tease about a Festool finishing solution i don't know what is.

Doubtful.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 08:28 PM »
They must not be available yet or at least I can't find any for a price check.

I grabbed this quote: Graco RAC X FF LP tips with SmartTip Technology are designed to work with Graco’s exclusive SmartControl™ Pressure Management System so "maybe" they don't replace a stock FF tip??
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 09:04 PM »
They must not be available yet or at least I can't find any for a price check.

I grabbed this quote: Graco RAC X FF LP tips with SmartTip Technology are designed to work with Graco’s exclusive SmartControl™ Pressure Management System so "maybe" they don't replace a stock FF tip??

Bill

They do work with any airless or air assisted pump that has a gun with a Graco tip housing on it.

They just came out about a week ago and are available. They may not be inventoried yet in dealers but can absolutely be ordered if you don't see them.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 12:27 PM »
Bill

They do work with any airless or air assisted pump that has a gun with a Graco tip housing on it.

They just came out about a week ago and are available. They may not be inventoried yet in dealers but can absolutely be ordered if you don't see them.
Scott:

I emailed Portland Compressor where I've purchased Graco tips before, they stated no plans to stock right away but will list them by the end of the week with prices.  They would be shipped directly for Graco in  Minneapolis.
Bill
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2017, 04:56 PM »
Bill

They do work with any airless or air assisted pump that has a gun with a Graco tip housing on it.

They just came out about a week ago and are available. They may not be inventoried yet in dealers but can absolutely be ordered if you don't see them.
Scott:

I emailed Portland Compressor where I've purchased Graco tips before, they stated no plans to stock right away but will list them by the end of the week with prices.  They would be shipped directly for Graco in  Minneapolis.

Sherwin Williams paint stores might be a better bet.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 12:44 PM »
Sherwin Williams paint stores might be a better bet.
Nope!  My local SW store would have to order them as well plus they never heard of the Graco FFLP tip.  They have a few FF tips and haven't ordered for stock in over a year.
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 05:58 PM »
Sherwin Williams paint stores might be a better bet.
Nope!  My local SW store would have to order them as well plus they never heard of the Graco FFLP tip.  They have a few FF tips and haven't ordered for stock in over a year.

What would be the problem with ordering them?

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 07:48 PM »
What would be the problem with ordering them?
To listen to the guy, it was!  He said first I have to find my(his) Graco account info, my(me) SW account and call Graco.  Thought I was pulling his teeth here!

Doesn't matter, I just checked, Portland Compressor has the Graco RAC X FFLP Tips listed at only a couple of bucks higher than the FF tips.  I ordered two but won't be trying them for some time though.
Bill
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 02:50 PM »
I bought the Fine Finish GX19 in December and sent in the coupon for free extra tips. The tips I just received are the new FFLP ones.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 11:49 PM »
I bought the Fine Finish GX19 in December and sent in the coupon for free extra tips. The tips I just received are the new FFLP ones.


Good to know. How do you like the GX19. Just waiting for an excuse (project) to buy one.
Tim

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 12:21 PM »
Oh that's cool. My guess is that these will bring about the phase out of the previous fine finish RAC tips.

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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2017, 01:02 PM »
I bought the Fine Finish GX19 in December and sent in the coupon for free extra tips. The tips I just received are the new FFLP ones.


Good to know. How do you like the GX19. Just waiting for an excuse (project) to buy one.
Tim

Late in responding. I've had a few times to try out the GX19 and like it; it's simple. My prior experience is with a Titan 440.

I bought an assortment of tips for outdoor walls and at some point to redo our fence. A few FFLP tips and also a 210 for smaller work. I'm spraying an 8x14 shed. Also built a single 3'x15' maple frame for restaurant menu boards, primed that with the Graco when I primed the shed.

The unit is easy to move around even with a gallon of paint in it. Being self-contained is certainly it's top feature. No issues in setup. It primes easily. First time use requires clearing the pump armor out. I store it in a controlled space so I don't do the pump armor after use, probably a few times a year maybe or if changing solvent types.

This year I may try it out for interior, paint walls and ceiling in our living room, along with painted shiplap style boards on a new fireplace buildout with TV and such.

One thing about the airless vs my Fuji HVLP is that I can change tip sizes on the airless at anytime while spraying a project. That is not really an option on the HVLP once I'm setup. I have multiple HVLP guns for that reason.

Also not thinning regular paints is convenient. But it never bothers me when thinning for HVLP which I just accept as that process.

This is my first Graco product, and I'm very pleased. I've spoken with them on the phone to clear up confusion (on their end) for the extra tips coupon. They were incredibly polite and attentive. Couldn't have asked more.

The interesting thing is that I had to buy it from a paint store in FL, very easy over the phone, because my Sherwin Williams a few blocks away was clueless about the GX19 model. Pretty sad when one of the largest paint stores nationwide just doesn't have its act together.

I find it odd how little info is out there on websites or youtube about the GX19. Whenever some new sander or saw or welder or camera or phone, you'll have umpteen reviews. So very little info out there on the GX19 from Graco or users.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2017, 01:05 PM by bnaboatbuilder »
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 10:04 AM »
Some more thoughts on the GX19.

I wasn't sure how much I would like the hopper for cleanup reasons, but it's simple to pour out any extra paint, wash the residual paint from the hopper with a hose as much as possible, then fill up a few times with water to clean out the pump and hose/gun.

The new FFLP tips certainly use much less pressure and spray very well with less overspray. The design of the GX19 makes viewing the pressure gauge a real pain in the butt since the gauge is inches off the ground and tucked under the hopper. So at this point I haven't even looked at the gauge while spraying. I just tweak the output dial until the fan looks right. Having all the necessary controls at the very bottom under the hopper is my biggest gripe. I know they have to be closely attached to the pump but such a design is not user friendly at all. I feel like a giraffe with my head up my rear trying to access the control knob.

It sprays very well and lays down paint quickly and evenly, which is why I bought it. Easily portable, lightweight, and does small to medium projects without problems.

I primed and painted our garden shed last week. I built it 13 years ago and it needed a refresh from a few past paint schemes. Something a little more current.

I used a regular Rac X 315 tip for primer and an FFLP 314 for the paint to experience the new tips.







« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 10:31 AM by bnaboatbuilder »
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Re: New Low Pressure FF tips for Airless and AAA
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2017, 07:01 PM »
Some more thoughts on the GX19.

I used a regular Rac X 315 tip for primer and an FFLP 314 for the paint to experience the new tips.


Thanks for the write up. I have noticed that other than Scott and few others there is not much specific information from first hand users on these units.
Tim