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Offline jaguar36

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Temporary Spray Booth
« on: January 30, 2019, 07:43 AM »
When I need to spray a project, I use plastic sheeting to create a kind of temporary spray booth in the storage area of my basement.  It works well enough, I've added plenty of lights and a ventilation.  However I don't like the plastic sheeting.  The first problem is that as finish accumulates on it, eventually it will start to flake off as the sheeting moves around and I've had this get onto some of the projects.  When I'm not going to be doing any spraying for awhile I'll take it down and throw it out, only to replace it with new sheeting for the next project.  While this isn't terribly expensive it does seem rather wasteful.

Does anyone have any better solutions?  I've thought about trying to make up some rigid panels that I could reuse, but I can't think of a good material to make them out of that would be cheap, lightweight and easy to store when not in use.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 07:46 AM by jaguar36 »

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Offline Rhino1789

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2019, 07:48 AM »
I was thinking of doing the same thing, but use canvas drop clothes. Have you tried using them?

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2019, 08:05 AM »
I realize that you are looking towards a more permanent solution, but you might want to investigate masking films like what 3m offers.  They are treated to help prevent flaking of finishes.  The 3m products are also thin and stick via static so they might be useful to cover something else more rigid.

Petr

Offline JCLP

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2019, 08:09 AM »
I've been using the 6mil plastic used for vapour barriers. Never had an issue with paint flaking off. Maybe it's the paint I'm using. It does accumulate and one day, soon hopefully, I will replace the plastic.
Cheers,
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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 08:23 AM »
You could use floor underlayment sheets. They are 1/4" and rigid. For more stability you count add a frame on the backside.
Or use canvas drop cloths spread over a light frame to make interlocking thin panels. They could be stored overhead when not in use.
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Offline duburban

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2019, 08:58 AM »
I’d like to piggy back on this topic a little and talk about spraying on site in finished houses in cold weather. The challenges are obvious and solutions less so.


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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 09:04 AM »
Shower curtains and EMT for rods.

Tom

Offline duburban

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2019, 09:15 AM »
Shower curtains and EMT for rods.

Tom

Nice! I like it.
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Offline Alex

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 09:20 AM »
Hardboard with a very thin frame behind it. Cheap, light, thin and easy to store.

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2019, 11:53 AM »
If you want a simple plug and play solution and have some space to set it up you can look at a mobile, inflatable spray booth.  They create airflow and have filters to keep everything clean.  Then they pack away when not in use.

Here is one example:  https://mobileenvironmentalsolutions.com/portable-paint-booth-10x10x9/

Ken

Offline Alex

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2019, 12:20 PM »
Here is one example:  https://mobileenvironmentalsolutions.com/portable-paint-booth-10x10x9/

$4,995.00 .... oops, that's quite a stretch comming from some plastic sheets.

Offline sprior

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2019, 12:47 PM »
One of these days I'm going to make one with rigid foam insulation (the same stuff I use as a cutting surface with my TS55) and velcro.

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2019, 01:17 PM »
Here is one example:  https://mobileenvironmentalsolutions.com/portable-paint-booth-10x10x9/

$4,995.00 .... oops, that's quite a stretch comming from some plastic sheets.

I never said it was cheap... but then again neither is Festool!!  [wink]

Offline duburban

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2019, 01:32 PM »
One of these days I'm going to make one with rigid foam insulation (the same stuff I use as a cutting surface with my TS55) and velcro.

Agreed. Strong enough to hold up alone and light enough to move it alone.

Just remember EPS is much much more environmentally friendly to make, we should be phasing out xps and polyiso from our lives.
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Offline jaguar36

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 01:45 PM »
Shower curtains and EMT for rods.

That sounds perfect!

Offline puffyshirt

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 01:46 PM »
@jaguar36 what do you use for ventilation in your setup?  I have been thinking about doing something similar to your picture, but wasn't sure how to properly (or adequately) vent.

Thanks for the post.

Offline jaguar36

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 01:59 PM »
I've got a fan in ceiling that exhausts to outside.  I'm in an unfinished basement so I basically use the floor joists and some cardboard as a duct over to a window.

The thin plastic blows around alot though with the fan, I think shower curtains will be alot better in that regard.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 02:03 PM by jaguar36 »


Offline duburban

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 04:12 PM »
How many CFM is adequate for these DIY booth options? So far iv'e been using 2-4 box fans with no ducting, not great in the bigger space I setup recently. Thinking about some dedicated air moving technology for this.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2019, 05:44 PM »
How many CFM is adequate for these DIY booth options? So far iv'e been using 2-4 box fans with no ducting, not great in the bigger space I setup recently. Thinking about some dedicated air moving technology for this.

Depends on booth size and configuration. Target air movement is 1 MPH.

Tom

Offline rst

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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2019, 07:31 PM »
I get a lot of material that has 4' x 8'/10' cardboard sheets.  I just tape sections together to create a small booth.  This also works great where I'm cutting concrete or block to help contain the mess.  I cut in an enlarged doorway in an ice cream manufacturing plant.  Cardboard covered with plastic kept the mess well away from the clean areas.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 04:34 AM »
I don't know if this is big enough for your needs but Lee Valley has a pop-up shelter for ~$80

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43456,43390&p=76184
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2019, 11:46 AM »
I don't know if this is big enough for your needs but Lee Valley has a pop-up shelter for ~$80

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43456,43390&p=76184

I used one of these outdoors to spray some parts with rattle cans.  It worked great for that purpose.  Kept the wind out and debris from falling on your paint, and I got great results.  I would think the results would be just as good with a sprayer.  Not sure how it would work indoors, though, since the front opening is so large.  I think you might want to rig up some kind of filtered air-flow to draw out at the bottom back of the unit.

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Offline scholar

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2019, 03:45 PM »
This rather ancient thread has quite a lot of detail of the home spray booth I built some years ago 

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/home-spray-booth-lots-of-pictures-t41183.html

It is still in service and there is not much I would do differently
- I did fit a framework of secondary filters behind the main pleated filters as I found that there was a fir bit of dry dust expelled otherwise.
- I have also bought a length of spiral ducting (525mm in my case) from these folks https://www.ntcducting.com/product-range/heating-ventilation-ducting/ so that I can direct the exhaust out of a door or window
- I now have a Lamello Zeta machine and would use the P14 Clamex fittings rather than the simplex fittings I used - I mean to rework this sometime.

Anyway, for me it has been a great solution and well worth the development and build effort. 

Cheers


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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
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Offline Curt Boyer

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2019, 08:29 PM »
This is what I have come up with for my portable spray booth. The tent is a 10x10 pop up that cost $50. The back that the fans are attached to is 1/4' corrugated plastic sheets sold in 4x8 sheets from Home Depot. I put down rosin paper on the floor or ground and tape the seams. I tape the two pieces of corrugated plastic together and to the fan frame. I use furnace filters to protect the fan motors and to keep the exit air clean. I spring clamp 6 mil poly to ceiling and walls. If you were going for a more permanent setup you could use the corrugated plastic sheets everywhere in place of poly. I can setup in just under 10 minutes and the take down is even faster!
Cheers
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Offline duburban

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2019, 08:59 PM »
This is what I have come up with for my portable spray booth. The tent is a 10x10 pop up that cost $50. The back that the fans are attached to is 1/4' corrugated plastic sheets sold in 4x8 sheets from Home Depot. I put down rosin paper on the floor or ground and tape the seams. I tape the two pieces of corrugated plastic together and to the fan frame. I use furnace filters to protect the fan motors and to keep the exit air clean. I spring clamp 6 mil poly to ceiling and walls. If you were going for a more permanent setup you could use the corrugated plastic sheets everywhere in place of poly. I can setup in just under 10 minutes and the take down is even faster!
Cheers
Curt

This is a great setup, thanks for sharing. The dewalt fan-stand is killer.

Does anyone live up in the cold like me and run into issues spraying on site? I know airless sprayers do this all the time but I create a significant fog when I'm HVLPing a large amount of material that has to be shot outside. I basically need a high CFM buildclean/HRV unit.

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2019, 02:06 AM »
We use a tent like ishmerc has posted. Cheap, can be used indoors (if ceiling not too high) or outdoors and packs away small so we can take it to different sires when required. Recently had an interior to paint then the client asked us to paint the doors as well, after we'd finished. We set the tent up inside the lounge, sprayed them all out, packed up and all was done and dusted in no time. For ventilation we use a dedicated extractor fan and ducting which isn't expensive and I would highly recommend getting one. Your household fan and ducting will get covered in paint over time and need to be replaced. It will also be gradually spraying paint around the exit of the ducting which may be your soffit or the side of your house. We use these ones:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HSTPTHV?aaxitk=wmkbLINe.Pohasl6rlxkAA&pd_rd_i=B07HSTPTHV&pf_rd_p=e037c154-e093-48a4-b127-477e5e294e3f&hsa_cr_id=8183118590101&sb-ci-n=asinImage&sb-ci-v=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51Gr2zvdVML.jpg&sb-ci-a=B07HSTPTHV

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2019, 09:42 AM »
How many CFM is adequate for these DIY booth options? So far iv'e been using 2-4 box fans with no ducting, not great in the bigger space I setup recently. Thinking about some dedicated air moving technology for this.

Depends on booth size and configuration. Target air movement is 1 MPH.

Tom

If you don’t have an anemometer and want to do the old feather drop test 1 MPH equals about 1.5 feet per second.

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Re: Temporary Spray Booth
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2019, 05:58 PM »
Once you get frustrated with plastic blowing in the wind and tripping over it, invest in some Zipwall poles
You won't regret it