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Offline Untidy Shop

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Let us all ban +1
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:06 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 05:07 PM »
+ 1 [big grin]

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 05:19 PM »
+1

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I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 06:04 PM »
I don't think they are time wasters.

No point spouting out the same thing if its already been said by some one and you agree with them and want to tell them you agree but also to reinforce their statement somewhat by +1ing them.

I suppose you could say " I agree with so and so " and leave at that.... Might as well do a +1 quicker easier and if people are reading the topic they will quickly see others agree with one glance with out the need to read the other comments saying they agree with that particular person/comment.

So I think +1 for the +1
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 06:10 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

+1

I just finished writing my post to find out a new reply had been posted.   If you had only posted a little sooner I hadn't of needed to write my comment I could have just +1ed you
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 06:10 PM »
So to keep a tally is that 3 or maybe 4 plus 1's and 1 minus 1. Can you be a plus 1 before you are a minus 1. Or maybe I am just wasting time by typing this. My head hurts now. LOL.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2014, 06:16 PM »
Well, I use +1 as shorthand for 'I support the <insert previous commenter> based on my experience as well. '

Writing this message on my iPhone has taken about 60s which is way too long to do while standing in traffic lights. +1 takes about 3s.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2014, 06:29 PM »
Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2014, 06:50 PM »
I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2014, 07:44 PM »
I seldom use the +1, but I understand it to mean "I agree with the previous poster and support their position."  I do like to see people expressing their support or opinion, so I vote +1 for the +1

I guess that's a +2?
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 07:45 PM »
I would rather see a thanks or like feature but the +1 doesn't bother me.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2014, 08:12 PM »
I think the +1 is ok when someone answers a question and every one agrees . when people express different opinions It gets confusing  when people +1  and you don't know which post they are referring to.

I would like a like or thank button system but rather have it a agree or disagree button. when someone posts a great answer it will be followed by the names of everyone who agreed in one box/colour and those who disagreed in a different box or colour
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2014, 08:50 PM »
Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2014, 09:45 PM »
Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom
+1.    I also had no clue what the title was about
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 10:59 PM »
+1  [wink]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 11:09 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!


+ 1 [big grin]


+ 1 [big grin]

LOL beat me to it




I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.


I don't think they are time wasters.

No point spouting out the same thing if its already been said by some one and you agree with them and want to tell them you agree but also to reinforce their statement somewhat by +1ing them.

I suppose you could say " I agree with so and so " and leave at that.... Might as well do a +1 quicker easier and if people are reading the topic they will quickly see others agree with one glance with out the need to read the other comments saying they agree with that particular person/comment.

So I think +1 for the +1




I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

+1

I just finished writing my post to find out a new reply had been posted.   If you had only posted a little sooner I hadn't of needed to write my comment I could have just +1ed you


So to keep a tally is that 3 or maybe 4 plus 1's and 1 minus 1. Can you be a plus 1 before you are a minus 1. Or maybe I am just wasting time by typing this. My head hurts now. LOL.


Well, I use +1 as shorthand for 'I support the <insert previous commenter> based on my experience as well. '

Writing this message on my iPhone has taken about 60s which is way too long to do while standing in traffic lights. +1 takes about 3s.


Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

Peter


I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

Kevin



I seldom use the +1, but I understand it to mean "I agree with the previous poster and support their position."  I do like to see people expressing their support or opinion, so I vote +1 for the +1

I guess that's a +2?


I would rather see a thanks or like feature but the +1 doesn't bother me.



I think the +1 is ok when someone answers a question and every one agrees . when people express different opinions It gets confusing  when people +1  and you don't know which post they are referring to.

I would like a like or thank button system but rather have it a agree or disagree button. when someone posts a great answer it will be followed by the names of everyone who agreed in one box/colour and those who disagreed in a different box or colour



Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom



Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom
+1.    I also had no clue what the title was about



+1  [wink]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2014, 12:55 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!


I totally disagree. This quickly gives us added data. A way to quickly agree with methods described above. When people chime in with that, you know that what precedes is worth reading into.
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Let us all ban +1
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 01:28 AM »
I thought there was a 'like' functionality at some point (?), but unfortunately that is not supported by Tapatalk, which I use almost exclusively to read and post short comments like this on FOG.

I mainly logon from a computer only if I'm doing a writeup and posting multiple pictures.

Also wish there was a better way to add emoticons from Tapatalk then memorizing the bracket markup... [sad]
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 04:39 AM »


Thank you all for participating in this discussion. I certainly enjoyed the humour in some responses; for example those of Andyman, Paul and Tom.  [smile]

Recently I saw a dormant topic had reappeared in my 'Unread List'. As I had followed this topic with great interest in the past, I opened it with anticipation to find that all that could be added was -
+1  [eek]  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

Some participants such as Reiska discussed options such as 'Like' functions. This could have some merit for further consideration.

Certainly it appears from most responses that +1 is seen as valuable. Consequently I can only urge members to value it's use, and not as some suggested to improve a members post count.

And finally -

Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

Peter

+1  [smile]  [blink]
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:46 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 05:43 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2014, 07:05 AM »
+1+-1
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2014, 07:05 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2014, 07:54 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
If you don't like it why not just ignore it?   I mean it's not like you have to spend lots of time reading it right?
What about using "ditto"  or "same here" or "i'm with ..."    "I agree"
Should we ban that too?
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2014, 07:57 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

It would be so tempting to +1 to this but only with regard to those long signature lists. Thank goodness some members do not do it because their lists would run to pages and pages.  [smile] As has been mentioned before elsewhere on the FOG recently, such listing can be perceived as a shopping list for thieves.

It also increases 'Festool anxiety' for some members.   [big grin]

« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 08:01 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2014, 08:04 AM »
Maybe some more colorful terms like. "I smell what your cooking" "I'm down with that" "true dat" "I'm picking up what your putting down" "I heard that" or sometimes at work I will say "let's run it up the flag pole and see if any one salutes. I think someone might have slipped me some of those drugs that WOW is taking everything seems funny to me this morning.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2014, 08:05 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
If you don't like it why not just ignore it?   I mean it's not like you have to spend lots of time reading it right?
What about using "ditto"  or "same here" or "i'm with ..."    "I agree"
Should we ban that too?

With respect, I think I have already conceded my point and made my appreciation known to you and others who commented above. See #19.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 08:07 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2014, 08:17 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2014, 08:22 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

I know where the phrase "drinking the kook-aid" comes from. Not sure if it was green kook-aid used in the original "incident".

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2014, 10:30 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

I know where the phrase "drinking the kook-aid" comes from. Not sure if it was green kook-aid used in the original "incident".

Tom

"Kook-aid" was a pretty appropriate descriptor for use in Jonestown... 

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2014, 03:41 PM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

I know where the phrase "drinking the kook-aid" comes from. Not sure if it was green kook-aid used in the original "incident".

Tom

"Kook-aid" was a pretty appropriate descriptor for use in Jonestown...

darn auto correct.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2014, 04:30 PM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2014, 06:10 PM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

See my sig.  ;D

Check my sig out!!

+1  [big grin]



errrrr errrr.  [eek]
I rest my case.

LOL  [smile]


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Re: Let us all ban +10
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2014, 08:58 PM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

See my sig.  ;D

Check my sig out!!

+1  [big grin]



errrrr errrr.  [eek]
I rest my case.

LOL  [smile]


And I like your Sigs.

I like my SIGs, too.  P229 Stainless Elite (.40 S&W) and P227 Nitron (.45 ACP).

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Re: Let us all ban +10
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2014, 09:03 PM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

See my sig.  ;D

Check my sig out!!

+1  [big grin]



errrrr errrr.  [eek]
I rest my case.

LOL  [smile]


And I like your Sigs.

I like my SIGs, too.  P229 Stainless Elite (.40 S&W) and P227 Nitron (.45 ACP).

 [big grin]


+1111

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Re: Let us all ban +10
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2014, 09:10 PM »
I like my SIGs, too.  P229 Stainless Elite (.40 S&W) and P227 Nitron (.45 ACP).

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2014, 09:42 PM »
Respectfully to all, the OP had a question for members.  Perhaps it would be good to go back to answering his question rather than just having fun with the topic.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2014, 09:53 PM »
Respectfully to all, the OP had a question for members.  Perhaps it would be good to go back to answering his question rather than just having fun with the topic.

Thanks,

Peter

You easterners must have a different definition of a question. Me, as a midwesterner cannot find a question in the original post.

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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2014, 09:59 PM »
Perhaps not a direct question, so let's make it direct:  Do members like or dislike the usage of +1 posts?

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2014, 10:04 PM »
I like +1

Helps to separate signal from possible noise very quickly.


Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2014, 10:20 PM »
I respect the concept of support for a position but would prefer content for actual posts. Reiterating my earlier postition I think an "I agree" or "like" etc. button would provide the ability to support a previous post without cluttering the unread post lists with simply that.

Having said that, it's not the end of the world so if +1 is what you like then by all means go ahead and +1

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2014, 10:28 PM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

+ 3

+4
Yep, I totally agree!!!  I interpret the long sig line tool lists as school boy bragging or gloating.  At minimum, it shows a certain level of immaturity.  The long sig lines are a total waste of my time, bandwidth, and time (again) to scroll past some of the sig lines just to read the next post in a topic.  While I'm fairly certain many of us can purchase every Festool sold and add it to our "collection" sig lines, some people can't, which leads me right back to the school boy bully syndrome.....

Rather than ban +1, I definitely would vote for ban sig lines with tool lists!!!

Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2014, 10:51 PM »
First let me say that I agree with virtually all the posts regarding the signature lists etc. 

The original question involves banning the use of +1 for posts (if such a thing were even possible), not "and further I don't like what people put in their signature lines".  The diference for me is my darn adult ADD draws me to every bloody unread post that hits my inbox and it's kinda a let down to open it to see simply +1, at which point I really don't care what is in the sig line as I just scroll by them.

I've grown to accept that my limited attention span is my issue so while I would prefer you all post in the maner that serves me best I recognise that this is not going to happen so I will happily open up a dozen +1 posts in order to share in some of the great ideas and projects that many of you come up with.

Offline bkharman

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2014, 10:51 PM »
Well the old saying fits here I think. Opinions are like ________ , everyone has one".

I personally don't care about the +1. I don't even acknowledge it really. I also don't care about the long signature line. Heck, I list my tools on it because I am proud that I CAN afford them AND use them. I know there are a bunch of people on this forum that do collect tools and rarely use them...  What's wrong with that?!?!  I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Heck, there are a lot worse things to collect like tiny porcelain clowns. [shiver]

Even if you did collect tiny porcelain clowns, there is probably a forum out there for it (maybe I will start TPCOG.com) and people go there to learn all they can about them, be it professional or just hobbyist.

I joined this forum to learn and share, and to be part of an area that will better my woodworking skills, better my tool "collection" and meet other folks with similar interests.

Usually I keep my mouth shut but this is getting ridiculous...  There is no way to enforce a ban on +1. If a signature line that is 30 rows deep annoys you, then scroll faster. If you don't like that a person has more tools than you and "flaunts" it in their signature line, get over it because it is human nature to be proud of their possessions.

No offense to the OP about the request, but it is impossible to ban it. If Shane did make it possible, people will come up with something else and that will annoy some percentage of members here.

By the way, I use my phone a LOT for this forum and use Tapatalk and by default, it doesn't show the signature lines.

/rant. Bryan.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2014, 11:53 PM »
Well the old saying fits here I think. Opinions are like ________ , everyone has one".

I personally don't care about the +1. I don't even acknowledge it really. I also don't care about the long signature line. Heck, I list my tools on it because I am proud that I CAN afford them AND use them. I know there are a bunch of people on this forum that do collect tools and rarely use them...  What's wrong with that?!?!  I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Heck, there are a lot worse things to collect like tiny porcelain clowns. [shiver]

Even if you did collect tiny porcelain clowns, there is probably a forum out there for it (maybe I will start TPCOG.com) and people go there to learn all they can about them, be it professional or just hobbyist.

I joined this forum to learn and share, and to be part of an area that will better my woodworking skills, better my tool "collection" and meet other folks with similar interests.

Usually I keep my mouth shut but this is getting ridiculous...  There is no way to enforce a ban on +1. If a signature line that is 30 rows deep annoys you, then scroll faster. If you don't like that a person has more tools than you and "flaunts" it in their signature line, get over it because it is human nature to be proud of their possessions.

No offense to the OP about the request, but it is impossible to ban it. If Shane did make it possible, people will come up with something else and that will annoy some percentage of members here.

By the way, I use my phone a LOT for this forum and use Tapatalk and by default, it doesn't show the signature lines.

/rant. Bryan.

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Offline Wenyce

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2014, 12:10 AM »
I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

Kevin

I do like your idea, kinda like how youtube does the "thumbs up" "thumbs down" it doesn't have to place the most thumbed up post at the beginning of the thread. I also think it would encourage the non-posters "lurkers" to chime in even if it not be written, but at least in agreement and who knows maybe if they get used to clicking a "thumbs up/like/smiley face" or whatever, it might just get them to post on the forum as well.  Untidy since it's your thread.. what do you thing?

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2014, 12:47 AM »
I'd love to be able to filter out certain elements for customised viewing. Sigs would be the first thing I turned off. An "agreed with" list for a post would also be useful ... Shows as a counter and opens as a list of members ...

To be clear ... I don't care if people list their tools in their sig ... It's listing them sequentially down the page that irritates.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2014, 05:20 AM »
I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

Kevin

I do like your idea, kinda like how youtube does the "thumbs up" "thumbs down" it doesn't have to place the most thumbed up post at the beginning of the thread. I also think it would encourage the non-posters "lurkers" to chime in even if it not be written, but at least in agreement and who knows maybe if they get used to clicking a "thumbs up/like/smiley face" or whatever, it might just get them to post on the forum as well.  Untidy since it's your thread.. what do you thing?

Thank you again to all who have responded and generated discussion on this subject. I thought it would have died down back around #20 and if not, certainly by  around #32 when discussion of Signatures had reached some conclusions.

From time to time most of us see ways the FOG may improve. It is just such a great and active resource. My whole point by being blunt/outrageous suggesting a Ban was to generate discussion around something that was irritating me.

Who am I to really think that +1 could actually be banned!   [eek]

So now we know, the majority of respondents like +1. But as I stated in #20, can we at least think a bit before we slap down a +1. Do we really need a procession of them or a dormant post revived with just +1?

Some mentioned that +1 provided a convenient way to respond on a mobile whilst driving. Hardly a great argument for it, given the issue of safety and that in some countries using a mobile whilst driving is a significant offence. (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/SafetyAndRules/SafetyIssues/MobilePhonesAndDriving.htm)

I agree with Wencye, Woodn't it be Neat and others who have suggested 'like buttons'. They would not bump post numbers, and would provide data and promote input from lurkers. Over to you Peter, Shane and Seth to consider this option further.

As to lists of Festools in Signatures, it is your business. It really is your signature. However beyond tools, remember this is an intra and international forum. In addition to the points I previously made perhaps consider using a tool list to illustrate their use in a project thread. And Kev makes a good point around vertical and horizontal lists (and switchable options too.).

However, I would like to see more humour or other information about a member in their Signature. Although at times I find JMBFestools sliding smilies a distraction from what he is saying, I certainly appreciate his effort to be creative and different.  [smile]

Thank you Peter for your moderation and input.  [smile]
« Last Edit: August 18, 2014, 05:41 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2014, 09:26 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

That is completely annoying. 


Offline Paul G

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2014, 02:16 PM »
However, I would like to see more humour ... in their Signature.

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Offline VW MICK

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2014, 02:28 PM »
I don't mind the +1 . It's just saying I agree .and sometimes it's good if a few guys agree without the need for another long post to reiterate a point

Also I quite like the tool lists in the signature .I'm interested in what combinations of tools other guys have bought .and it doesn't make me jealous or annoyed
I choose not to put my list on my signature but that's my choice

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2014, 02:41 PM »
I prefer the +1. If someone disagree's enough to comment on a post, I'll read it.

Alot of +1's reinforces the post and tells me it has merit. If it's a technique or a purchase, it can definitely sway me towards it.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2014, 04:28 PM »
Other forums have a 'Like' button and, uh, I like that better. No need to scroll through +1s or "yeah me, too" or (waaaay worse) a post quoting a two-screen post and only adding "yes i agree". ?!?  Also easier to see how many agree very quickly.  I don't like forums that then float the most liked comments to the top of the thread because you lose context.

And as someone else pointed out, lurkers possibly conscious of their English ability would be more apt to hit 'Like'.

If someone implements a 'Like' on here, keep the 'Like count' out of the profiles... on that other forum, people who originally posted a lot for the sake of having that 'Post Count' show a big number went nuts when 'Like' was implemented to the point of having a stupid thread where any reply would get a like from all participants in the thread.  Yeah, a 'like' pyramid scheme :-/
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2014, 04:37 PM »
I prefer the +1. If someone disagree's enough to comment on a post, I'll read it.

Alot of +1's reinforces the post and tells me it has merit. If it's a technique or a purchase, it can definitely sway me towards it.

This is exactly how I feel about it as well. Can't remember how many times I've seen a string of " +1's " and been driven to go study up on or purchase something?
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