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Offline Untidy Shop

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Let us all ban +1
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:06 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
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Offline andyman

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 05:07 PM »
+ 1 [big grin]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 05:19 PM »
+1

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 06:01 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 06:04 PM »
I don't think they are time wasters.

No point spouting out the same thing if its already been said by some one and you agree with them and want to tell them you agree but also to reinforce their statement somewhat by +1ing them.

I suppose you could say " I agree with so and so " and leave at that.... Might as well do a +1 quicker easier and if people are reading the topic they will quickly see others agree with one glance with out the need to read the other comments saying they agree with that particular person/comment.

So I think +1 for the +1
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 06:10 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

+1

I just finished writing my post to find out a new reply had been posted.   If you had only posted a little sooner I hadn't of needed to write my comment I could have just +1ed you
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 06:10 PM »
So to keep a tally is that 3 or maybe 4 plus 1's and 1 minus 1. Can you be a plus 1 before you are a minus 1. Or maybe I am just wasting time by typing this. My head hurts now. LOL.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2014, 06:16 PM »
Well, I use +1 as shorthand for 'I support the <insert previous commenter> based on my experience as well. '

Writing this message on my iPhone has taken about 60s which is way too long to do while standing in traffic lights. +1 takes about 3s.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2014, 06:29 PM »
Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

Peter
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2014, 06:50 PM »
I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2014, 07:44 PM »
I seldom use the +1, but I understand it to mean "I agree with the previous poster and support their position."  I do like to see people expressing their support or opinion, so I vote +1 for the +1

I guess that's a +2?
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 07:45 PM »
I would rather see a thanks or like feature but the +1 doesn't bother me.

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2014, 08:12 PM »
I think the +1 is ok when someone answers a question and every one agrees . when people express different opinions It gets confusing  when people +1  and you don't know which post they are referring to.

I would like a like or thank button system but rather have it a agree or disagree button. when someone posts a great answer it will be followed by the names of everyone who agreed in one box/colour and those who disagreed in a different box or colour
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2014, 08:50 PM »
Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2014, 09:45 PM »
Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom
+1.    I also had no clue what the title was about
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 10:59 PM »
+1  [wink]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 11:09 PM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!


+ 1 [big grin]


+ 1 [big grin]

LOL beat me to it




I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.


I don't think they are time wasters.

No point spouting out the same thing if its already been said by some one and you agree with them and want to tell them you agree but also to reinforce their statement somewhat by +1ing them.

I suppose you could say " I agree with so and so " and leave at that.... Might as well do a +1 quicker easier and if people are reading the topic they will quickly see others agree with one glance with out the need to read the other comments saying they agree with that particular person/comment.

So I think +1 for the +1




I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!

I disagree that it wastes time, I find it speeds up the reading of a post. I'd rather see a "+1" from a poster, rather than a long drawn out re-explination of what someone else just wrote which in all totals to "yes I agree" better yet said "+1".

So -1, lol.

+1

I just finished writing my post to find out a new reply had been posted.   If you had only posted a little sooner I hadn't of needed to write my comment I could have just +1ed you


So to keep a tally is that 3 or maybe 4 plus 1's and 1 minus 1. Can you be a plus 1 before you are a minus 1. Or maybe I am just wasting time by typing this. My head hurts now. LOL.


Well, I use +1 as shorthand for 'I support the <insert previous commenter> based on my experience as well. '

Writing this message on my iPhone has taken about 60s which is way too long to do while standing in traffic lights. +1 takes about 3s.


Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

Peter


I too am not a big fan of the +1 but I do understand why they are used. If we could have a function similar to the "like" function on facebook that would flag the poster and the OP that someone supported their post without it hitting all our unread lists I think that would provide the function of the +1 without sending all of us to look at a new post only to see a +1. We could even call it the +1 function and each post could have a little tally in the corner of how many if any have +1'd it.

And to Peter's point the new +1 function would not be included in a person's post count.

Kevin



I seldom use the +1, but I understand it to mean "I agree with the previous poster and support their position."  I do like to see people expressing their support or opinion, so I vote +1 for the +1

I guess that's a +2?


I would rather see a thanks or like feature but the +1 doesn't bother me.



I think the +1 is ok when someone answers a question and every one agrees . when people express different opinions It gets confusing  when people +1  and you don't know which post they are referring to.

I would like a like or thank button system but rather have it a agree or disagree button. when someone posts a great answer it will be followed by the names of everyone who agreed in one box/colour and those who disagreed in a different box or colour



Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom



Good thing andyman responded with the +1. I had know idea what the title was referring to.

Tom
+1.    I also had no clue what the title was about



+1  [wink]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2014, 12:55 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!


I totally disagree. This quickly gives us added data. A way to quickly agree with methods described above. When people chime in with that, you know that what precedes is worth reading into.
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Let us all ban +1
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 01:28 AM »
I thought there was a 'like' functionality at some point (?), but unfortunately that is not supported by Tapatalk, which I use almost exclusively to read and post short comments like this on FOG.

I mainly logon from a computer only if I'm doing a writeup and posting multiple pictures.

Also wish there was a better way to add emoticons from Tapatalk then memorizing the bracket markup... [sad]
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 04:39 AM »


Thank you all for participating in this discussion. I certainly enjoyed the humour in some responses; for example those of Andyman, Paul and Tom.  [smile]

Recently I saw a dormant topic had reappeared in my 'Unread List'. As I had followed this topic with great interest in the past, I opened it with anticipation to find that all that could be added was -
+1  [eek]  [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek] [eek]

Some participants such as Reiska discussed options such as 'Like' functions. This could have some merit for further consideration.

Certainly it appears from most responses that +1 is seen as valuable. Consequently I can only urge members to value it's use, and not as some suggested to improve a members post count.

And finally -

Personally I don't like using them, but understand when others use them to say that they agree with a post.  But if they are used just to bump up post counts then they are nothing more than spam in my mind.

Peter

+1  [smile]  [blink]
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 04:46 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 05:43 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2014, 07:05 AM »
+1+-1
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2014, 07:05 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2014, 07:54 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
If you don't like it why not just ignore it?   I mean it's not like you have to spend lots of time reading it right?
What about using "ditto"  or "same here" or "i'm with ..."    "I agree"
Should we ban that too?
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2014, 07:57 AM »
I'd rather scroll through 10 "+1" posts than a long thread where the primary participant has a page long list of their Festools in their sig!

That gets old real fast [sad]

It would be so tempting to +1 to this but only with regard to those long signature lists. Thank goodness some members do not do it because their lists would run to pages and pages.  [smile] As has been mentioned before elsewhere on the FOG recently, such listing can be perceived as a shopping list for thieves.

It also increases 'Festool anxiety' for some members.   [big grin]

« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 08:01 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2014, 08:04 AM »
Maybe some more colorful terms like. "I smell what your cooking" "I'm down with that" "true dat" "I'm picking up what your putting down" "I heard that" or sometimes at work I will say "let's run it up the flag pole and see if any one salutes. I think someone might have slipped me some of those drugs that WOW is taking everything seems funny to me this morning.
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2014, 08:05 AM »


I find ' +1' posts very frustrating, particularly as in most cases they offer no additional comments or discussion to the topic. In fact I would even say they are time wasters.

 [ban] +1


Yes before someone else says it, I am probably guilty!
If you don't like it why not just ignore it?   I mean it's not like you have to spend lots of time reading it right?
What about using "ditto"  or "same here" or "i'm with ..."    "I agree"
Should we ban that too?

With respect, I think I have already conceded my point and made my appreciation known to you and others who commented above. See #19.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 08:07 AM by Untidy Shop »
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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2014, 08:17 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2014, 08:22 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

I know where the phrase "drinking the kook-aid" comes from. Not sure if it was green kook-aid used in the original "incident".

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Re: Let us all ban +1
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2014, 10:30 AM »
In any forum, people will be annoyed by different things.  The +1 doesn't annoy me but the very frequent use of the term "drinking the green kool-aid" on this forum certainly does.  If people really understood what that phrase means and where it comes from, I suspect the use of that phrase to describe their entry into club Festool owner would cease.  Regardless, I think both of us will just have to endure. ;)

I know where the phrase "drinking the kook-aid" comes from. Not sure if it was green kook-aid used in the original "incident".

Tom

"Kook-aid" was a pretty appropriate descriptor for use in Jonestown... 

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