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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Fun, Games, Diversions => Topic started by: Steve Rowe on December 13, 2016, 09:50 PM

Title: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Steve Rowe on December 13, 2016, 09:50 PM
I am considering offering my alternative to the red OTT.  This metric precision jig can be used with a router table or handheld router to get a precise 90mm radius on a corner of your choosing.  The mitered stops are specifically designed with the use of the dust collection shroud on the Festool router system allowing smooth router movement throughout the cut.  The jig is constructed of only the highest quality low cost MDF and B grade Baltic birch ply.  Finish is natural as it is non-existent therefore, more environmentally friendly.  Note the exquisite graphite stenciling of the radius on the face of the jig.

This jig was in the making for 1-1/2 years (because I made it a year and a half ago).  Pricing for the one piece set would normally be $69 but since it is specifically designed for use with Festool routers and is a one time tool, the introductory price is $269 delivered. 

But hurry, quantities are limited (only one available) as this jig is truly a one time tool well: because I have only made it one time. 

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I hope you have enjoyed this spoof.
Steve
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Shane Holland on December 13, 2016, 10:12 PM
[scratch chin]

Steve, if you decide to produce more and you're seeking distribution, you have my contact info.

[thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: antss on December 13, 2016, 10:14 PM
If it doesn't come in a systainer, then I'm not interested.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Bohdan on December 13, 2016, 10:25 PM
@Steve Rowe You should have pre-announced it and then delayed its release till April 1st.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: mattbar1 on December 13, 2016, 10:25 PM
I'm new. First post...

Doesn't this belong in the Classifieds section?

 ;)
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Chris Wong on December 13, 2016, 10:54 PM
So if I order one, I can expect it sometime around June 2017?
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Peter Halle on December 14, 2016, 12:30 AM
I'm new. First post...

Doesn't this belong in the Classifieds section?

 ;)

Welcome to the forum.  This is a spoof or jab at a recently announced Woodpecker OneTime tool.

Peter
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Untidy Shop on December 14, 2016, 01:08 AM
@Steve Rowe You should have pre-announced it and then delayed its release till April 1st.

No, April 1 is  when there will be a price rise!  [eek] [big grin]
@Steve Rowe , has @Kev contacted you regarding Australian Agency for 'one time' export opportunities? [smile]
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Kev on December 14, 2016, 01:28 AM
@Steve Rowe You should have pre-announced it and then delayed its release till April 1st.

No, April 1 is  when there will be a price rise!  [eek] [big grin]
@Steve Rowe , has @Kev contacted you regarding Australian Agency for 'one time' export opportunities? [smile]
@Untidy Shop @Steve Rowe sorry I'm slow off the mark - I'm flat out in a resort, eating and drinking is exhausting work.

Steve, I estimate initial Australian demand to be massive, Untidy alone will want at least 50! Do you think you can engage your Chinese manufacturers and meet demand before April 1st.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Holmz on December 14, 2016, 05:35 AM
It may be presented as a spoof, but it is well executed and something which has some worth.
Basically I like it.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Untidy Shop on December 14, 2016, 05:52 AM
@Kev as you have ordered 50 units on my behalf, can I assume that as the Australian importer you have appointed me as a 'Premium Dealer'. * [big grin]

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* Some Festool Dealers in Australia may be listed as Premium Dealers; that is, Dealers who keep a wide range of Festool Tools and Accessories in stock and in addition have demonstration and other in store facilities and services.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: HarveyWildes on December 14, 2016, 06:13 AM
I am considering offering my alternative to the red OTT.  This metric precision jig can be used with a router table or handheld router to get a precise 90mm radius on a corner of your choosing.  The mitered stops are specifically designed with the use of the dust collection shroud on the Festool router system allowing smooth router movement throughout the cut.   ...

But hurry, quantities are limited (only one available) as this jig is truly a one time tool well: because I have only made it one time. 

I'm glad to see that you have engineered this tool to fit into the Festool dust extraction system.  This is a terrific one-time feature, but I need a 3 1/2" radius.  I see an opportunity to create a radius collection, with one-time tooling for each one.  Or perhaps a custom radius service, with the corresponding premium pricing, of course.  (If a person had two, would they be radii or radiuses?)
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Stoli on December 14, 2016, 09:50 AM
Since Festool is now moving to imperial, you need to offer a version with a new graphite stenciling of "3.543in", and tack on $15.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: antss on December 14, 2016, 11:32 AM
better get some demo models to the usual suspects so they can bless it on the utube
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Acrobat on December 14, 2016, 09:58 PM
Ha, I'll take -10 sets. I particularly like the graphite marking.

OTT?
Is that a "One time tool" or "Over The Top" price?
Title: The Alternative OTT - ALL PREORDERS SUSPENDED and FAQs
Post by: Steve Rowe on December 14, 2016, 11:40 PM
PRE-ORDERS SUSPENDED:
Due to incredible demand, all Pre-orders on the Alternative OTT have been suspended.  In just a matter of hours, demand has outstripped the supply by over 6000%.  My apologies to those who may have been on the fence about ordering such a fine jig and have missed out.  The marketing manager (Steve) has been demoted (I could not fire him 11 days before Christmas) and replaced with a different Steve.

I have been in meetings all day with the production manager (Steve) and the procurement manager (Steve) who has advised me that there is a shortage of low cost high quality MDF as a result may not be able to fulfill all orders in a timely fashion.  They both blame the marketing manager for grossly underestimating the demand and overpromising delivery.  Knowledge of the pending MDF demand has apparently leaked out and has affected the supply stream.  Our company has apparently been hacked and information leaked to Wikileaks so we have resorted to use tin foil hats and mental telepathy to communicate in lieu of the normal talking amongst ourselves until our Faraday cage can be constructed.

The head of our legal department is also investigating reports of dealers who are selling these on Amazon and eBay for more than the advertised special introductory pricing. 

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs):
1) Will a systainer be available?  YES, a systainer will be available with a custom hand carved Kaizen foam insert for a small phenomonal fee.
2) If I order now, will I get it in June?  NO, per the announcement above, you can't order now.  If you already have placed your order, we were going to deliver immediately but if you wish, we can delay shipment until June.
3) Since the new Festool routers have stick on Imperial scales, can you provide an Imperial scale on the jig?  YES, a high quality stick on Imperial measurement can be provided at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE upon request.  There is no charge since our R&D department has tested this and it wears off after the first use.
4) Can I use a Metric scale router with the metric jig?  YES but, you will not achieve the desired level of confusion with intermixing different measurement systems.
5) Can I use Imperial size bits with the metric jig?  YES, our R&D department has determined that both metric and imperial bit sizes will work with this jig. 
6) Can you provide a custom size radius?  YES, but that would be a different OTT.
7) Will you make this jig again?  NO - that is why we called it a One Time Tool and not a Two Time Tool.
8. Will there be an April 1st price increase?  NO, we feel our clients would view that as a joke.

 [eek]
Hey- you can't just make this stuff up, or maybe you can.  Any similarities of this offering to actual events that may have occurred on this Forum recently is purely coincidental.

Steve

Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Wooden Skye on December 15, 2016, 12:22 AM
Darn it, I missed the pre order period, but at least I was able to order the GL (Good Laugh)!
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: mart6061 on December 15, 2016, 02:52 AM
Festool have been releasing tools in the UK in 240v only recently. Please also make it available in 110v.

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Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Holmz on December 15, 2016, 04:11 AM
Is it labeled as a "Pro90"?
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Steve Rowe on December 15, 2016, 08:17 AM
Festool have been releasing tools in the UK in 240v only recently. Please also make it available in 110v.

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Our engineering department indicates that this jig is suitable for use up to 240v.  They did express concern with using this with  higher voltage tools as the arc flash expected from universal motor brushes has a tendency to set things on fire. 
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Steve Rowe on December 15, 2016, 08:19 AM
Is it labeled as a "Pro90"?

Absolutely, additional graphite engraving will be required.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: waho6o9 on December 15, 2016, 08:29 AM
We need 4 - quarter sawn MDF MCRJigs please.

Thank you Steve
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: antss on December 15, 2016, 08:41 AM
Are you going to include a graphite dispensing tool to replace the markings that wear off ?

How about a free hat for my having to wait now ?
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: HarveyWildes on December 15, 2016, 09:00 AM
How about a radii (or radiuses) sys-rack for the custom systainers?  And the ultimate for the discerning craftsman, the self-driving sys-van that follows your work vehicle to the jobsite so that you have access to all of your one-time radii wherever needed, and offered in both metric and imperial versions.
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Untidy Shop on December 15, 2016, 10:34 PM
I have commenced proceedings with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commision [ACCC], regarding this product and the failure of its manufacturer (@Steve Rowe) and authorised Australian Importer (@Kev) to follow through with

.  economically sufficient one time export orders to Australia
.  provide a product that meets Australian Design Rules.

Australian Design Rules state that all tools designed for woodwork related tasks within Australia, must be engineered to the metric system, that any scales must be integral to the tool or perminantly attached and that such a scale should only be metric in nature.

I also note that @Kev has not submitted this tool for ADR assessment!

I further note that this tool in its current form will never operate with 240V Festool Routers as it interferes with their collet brake.

This is yet another example of why the TPP is doomed!  [eek]  [big grin]

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And all of the above is written with an intention of satire,and certainly  not reality or true intention!  [big grin]

Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Gwerner on December 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Man, it seems like every company has a "Steve" and they just cause all sorts of issues. I move that we ban the development and production of any future Steves and begin discussions to eradicate the name Steve from all spoken or written languages on the planet including Latin and Sanskrit.

 [embarassed] [tongue] :P
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: jobsworth on December 16, 2016, 02:17 PM
Do ya take checks?
Title: Re: Metric Corner Rounding Jig - the Alternative OTT
Post by: Untidy Shop on December 16, 2016, 07:20 PM
Do ya take checks?

Now we have people offering extra to que jump!  [eek] [big grin]