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Online GoingMyWay

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Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« on: June 18, 2018, 02:37 PM »
I just tried for the second time to make a post in the Member Projects section with 11 "Inline full-size image" attachments.  The total size for all 11 images is 24.1MB.  The largest individual image size is only 3.39MB.  Those seem to be under the forum image restrictions.

After I clicked the Post button I was taken back to a blank "Start new topic" form instead of being taken back to the Member Projects forum like normally happens after I make a post.  This happened both time.  The first time I thought it might just take the system a while before it actually created the post because of all the images, but it still hasn't shown up.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 03:24 PM »
It is probably the file size of the images.  What the forum says is max is just plain wrong.  Using large file sizes may seem convenient but usually results in disgust.

as an example I will try to post two copies of the same image.  One at a large size just under 3 meg and then one at 172KB.

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Small



OK.  That worked.  Clarity there doesn't be much difference but the color did suffer a small amount in the second smaller.  Personally unless the two images were side by side I doubt anyone would notice or care.

Peter
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 03:30 PM »
I typically resize my photos using MS Paint to be 900-1000 pixels wide before posting them as in-line full size and have never had a problem.  It really reduces file size and is quick and easy to use.

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 03:32 PM »
I guess that's my problem.  What's the quickest/easiest way to resize the images?  I have my phone set to take the highest quality pictures hence the large file sizes.

I already seemingly have enough problems getting the images from my phone to the computer.  Before I was just attaching the images to draft emails in Gmail.  Today I started uploading the images to my Google Drive. 

Part of me feels quite dumb because I work in IT and I keep thinking - there must be a better way or I'm doing something wrong or how does everyone else make these nice posts with lots of images.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 04:06 PM »
I resize photos with free software called Photoscape. If you like, send me the pics and I will resize them for you...

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 04:09 PM »
I could be wrong but for starters I am betting that the highest quality setting on your phone is total overkill. Maybe try setting it lower as a starting point.

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2018, 04:17 PM »
Well my phone image quality is a whole different story.  I suspect you're correct that it's overkill, especially when you consider all those images eat up the vital storage space on the phone, but my thinking has always been that you can always downscale if it's too large (though, this seems to be my exact problem right now!).  It doesn't really work the other way around.

I filmed an overseas trip last year in 4k.  That posed its own set of challenges because of how resource intensive editing 4k video is.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2018, 10:14 AM »
@SRSemenza  I hope my last post didn't come off the wrong way.  You're probably absolutely correct that the highest setting is overkill.  I just like the idea of being able to "possibly, one day, maybe, in the future" do something with the larger image.  The reality is, I don't think I've ever used the additional file size capability and probably won't be either.  It's not like I'm going to take one of my pictures and try to turn it into a billboard or anything like that.

I took @Dick Mahany 's advice and resized the images using Paint.  I resized all of them be to 25% of the original size.  Now all 12 images (I added 1 more) are a total of 2.26MB.  It wasn't that bad, just a little annoying to have to open each image, resize, and save.  I know Adobe Lightroom offers batch image processing, but that software is quite expensive.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2018, 10:23 AM »
I have also used Photoshop Elements (12) to resize photos but it takes a few more keystrokes than Paint.  I have seen that there is a way to batch resize in PS Elements although it is not as straight forward as Lightroom and I haven't tried it.  PS Elements is relatively inexpensive so it may be another option.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2018, 10:33 AM »
I actually had an older version of PS Elements (I think from like 2011), but I lost it when I had to get a new hard drive in that computer.  I never bothered to reinstall it.

Thanks for that suggestion though.  I might keep that in mind for the future.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2018, 10:41 AM »
@SRSemenza  I hope my last post didn't come off the wrong way.  You're probably absolutely correct that the highest setting is overkill.  I just like the idea of being able to "possibly, one day, maybe, in the future" do something with the larger image.  The reality is, I don't think I've ever used the additional file size capability and probably won't be either.  It's not like I'm going to take one of my pictures and try to turn it into a billboard or anything like that.

I took @Dick Mahany 's advice and resized the images using Paint.  I resized all of them be to 25% of the original size.  Now all 12 images (I added 1 more) are a total of 2.26MB.  It wasn't that bad, just a little annoying to have to open each image, resize, and save.  I know Adobe Lightroom offers batch image processing, but that software is quite expensive.


Yeah, no problem , didn't come off the wrong way. Looks like they posted nicely  [thumbs up]

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2018, 11:12 AM »
I could be wrong but for starters I am betting that the highest quality setting on your phone is total overkill. Maybe try setting it lower as a starting point.
No, it's better to rescale them later (as this also removes grain and whatnot).

To manipulate images (rotate, resize, convert, ...) on Windows I can recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrfanView - free, fast and works nicely for batch processing.

In case you want to do image editing (like paint around in it) take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP to avoid spending money on vendor lock-in.

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2018, 11:19 AM »
I'll have to check IrfanView out.  I have never heard of that application.  I especially like the price ;)!

I tried using GIMP long time back, but I didn't like that it had the "Photoshop feel" yet it wasn't Photoshop if that makes any sense.  I think I struggled finding things in the drop down menus (some tools were named a little bit differently) and also most of the tutorials that I saw on how to edit images were based on Photoshop so the actual process would be slightly different using GIMP.  At least that's what I seem to recall from memory.  I guess I could also search specifically for GIMP image editing tutorials too - that would probably solve the one problem.
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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2018, 11:27 AM »
I could be wrong but for starters I am betting that the highest quality setting on your phone is total overkill. Maybe try setting it lower as a starting point.
No, it's better to rescale them later (as this also removes grain and whatnot).

To manipulate images (rotate, resize, convert, ...) on Windows I can recommend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrfanView - free, fast and works nicely for batch processing.

In case you want to do image editing (like paint around in it) take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP to avoid spending money on vendor lock-in.


Yes, it is better to resize for the image quality.

But for most applications most current cameras and phone cameras still take pictures that are way overkill in size. Pro photographer, art, advertising, etc. , yes highest quality you can get to start with. Being able to make a high quality billboard image is nice but 99% (guesstimate) of the time a half or quarter billboard is still more than enough for quality and still leaves plenty of room to edit later.

When coupled with some of the issues that come along with those giant pictures for people trying to post them on the internet a downgrade in initial size resolves a lot of problems without losing any significant quality. And can frequently eliminate the uploading problems. Also many people want to just post from the phone and not have to deal with doing anything to the picture first.

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Re: Post with 11 Inline Images not Posting
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2018, 12:12 PM »
I tried using GIMP long time back, but I didn't like that it had the "Photoshop feel"
Usually people complain that GIMP dosn't replicate the photoshop interface.
But as of 'a long time back': take a look at the current version.
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I guess I could also search specifically for GIMP image editing tutorials too - that would probably solve the one problem.
There are plenty of tutorials for GIMP, either search for the function you need - or take some days to read the documentation ;)