I've used the TS 75 (w/ standard blade) and MFT 800 to turn 10/4 mahogany into square table legs that need almost no sanding.

If you think about it, you have to have at least one flat surface on the slab before you start ripping because you need a reference surface for the guide rail. It doesn't have to be perfect - just enough coplanar parts that the guide rail can sit on them as you make the series of cuts. The bottom of the rough piece has to have enough touch points to have, at the very least, one point touching the table for each leg piece. Then, those cuts will all be parallel and the pieces cut off can be used to support the guide rail as you run out of real estate for the guide rail to sit on.

As you cut the first piece, put it at the uncut end and continue that until you make the last cut. This way the guide rail will remain in the same configuration from first cut to last cut. If you cut a piece that didn't have a touch point as discussed in the first paragraph, don't use it as fill in support.

Now that you have a series of parallel cuts, you can easily make the cuts that are normal to the first two cuts on each piece.

The guide rail, when properly supported, will ensure either TS cuts straight and normal to the rail.


Tom

hard to understand what Ikea has to do with
Festool MFT and its malfunction

or Roadrunner06 and his IP address nonsense

why cant you people concentrate on the hard
facts and only facts?

some time ago I needed to use the MFT fence
in the upward position and guess what I discovered,

it wasn't perpendicular to the table top

sure, I made my own fence but all this made me
to consider the EurekaZone rails and their
powerbench

still like my TS75, so just wanted to get
some serious opinion about the EurekaZone
product line

above I stipulated a few serious question
about the Festool MFT and its malfunction
and the honorable members of this forum
just try to explain to me how bad woodworker
I am, please give me some constructive facts,
tell me the alu side profiles and the fence
are perpendicular not about the Ikea and Kamprad
and Tetra Pak and Rausing and other mambo jumbo

now both the Rausing and Kamprad are extremly
competent people but it hardly helps me to
get some perpendicular cuts

or let me know immediately if I am wrong?

it would be much better to put some pressure
on Festool to construct better MFT and
replace all the bad ones out there

Nils

Sure sounds like an imposter to me....

only three posts and all about Eureka zone?  Sounds like Dino's new gorilla marketing program in action to me.

Julian

Nils,

I hope you got some good information from the search that Per provided as well as the post from Tom.

I'm a little confused about how you are using the MFT to rip 2" strips from a 4' 9" board (or is it 3 to 5 meters?).  The MFT1080, which is what I assume you have, is 45" long.  So I guess you are using the MFT as a support for your work piece, and using a guide rail clamped to the work piece to make the cut.  It would be impossible to cut a 4' 9" piece using the MFT fence and guide rail, even if the fence were positioned parallel to the short side of the MFT.  There are some threads here on the FOG about ways to rip narrow stock using guide rails and a TS55 or TS75.  Per's search should have pointed you to some of those.  The main point in many of those threads is the need to provide adequate support under the work piece on both sides of the cut and under the guide rail, making certain the guide rail is flat on the piece being cut.

I'm also confused about your comment saying you "needed to use the MFT fence in the upward position".  I am having trouble envisioning what you were doing, and what you expected from the rail in a vertical position.  The way the MFT guide rail is attached to the bracket, I cannot see how you would expect the rail to be perpendicular to the table top in the raised or vertical position.

Perhaps you could post some photographs of your setup so we can offer some advice to you on your specific applications?

I hope you will focus on the hard facts yourself, and provide us with some more information about the specifics of what you are doing, so that we can help you.

hi Daviddubya,

most of that search path of Per was known to me already

sure, when ripping 3-5m long planks you have to use rails
only and clamp them to the wood that will be ripped, the
problem is you need perfect support on the left side under
the rail and even then it works only in theory

now, the fence and the rail

not sure if you are using the MFT yourself or not, but the
fence can be applied on the table so it is only 10 mm or so
high or you can rise it 90 degree and the alu profile will
now be approximately 30 mm high

when using it in this high position it is not perpendicular
to the MDF table top

also, when you try to adjust it for square against the
rail its almost certain you'll bend it

why do you want me to have the rail in the upward position?
I am talking about the fence in the upward position when suddenly
you convert my fence to the rail in the vertical position?

then again, the alu profiles along the sides of the MFT are
not perpendicular either

ripping same width or less of solid wood as above but shorter
lengths of 20" to 40" on the Festool bridge always require different
kind of support and jigs and most likely it still won't be
perpendicular and square

my intention is to get a better rail system for my Festool
TS75 circular saw and square and perpendicular cuts

why are some people so upset over the idea of using a
Festool TS75 on EurekaZone rails?

is EurekaZone rails a bad product or are some of Festool
users just afraid of getting a better rails for TS75?

if bad, please tell me what's bad with it, same way
I described the malfunctions of my Festool MFT

Nils

Pictures Nisse,
Pictures.
It's hard to believe that you are the only one
with a 75 and a guide rail that can't cut a board square.
Every thing about your post is hard to believe. If your so
desperate  to to buy that EZ thing do it, but I suggest you go back to
carpentry 101  before you waste your money.
Do you really think that Festool has grown into a giant company
making tools that don't work?
Tell Dino that we love the Festool rail system so much that we now own 45 feet
of square cutting rail.

Nisse, your post rings like a cracked bell.

Bob

dear David,

why speculate in my relation to Dino,

I don't speculate in your relation to Festool,
who know, you could very easily be paid by
Festool or some marketing company in charge of
promoting Festool products

if you are a long time user of Festool MFT
then it should not be to difficult to confirm
at least my statements regarding the perpendicularity
of Festool MFT alu fence and the alu side profiles

btw, how could it be that you never observed
that MFT is equipped with a cross cutting bridge
on the top

its great idea but it just doesn't work when using
solid wood,

probably its because it is not fixed on one side
and the rail is to easily bend to the right/left
when plunging and pushing the saw forward

that's where I see some major differences on the
EurekaZone rails

one other thing that made me consider EurekaZone
is Dino himself, he is carpenter and when you talk
to him his head is full of solutions. Compare that to
my long discussion with the Festool service people
who's standard answer is "we can't do that", "its not
possible" and like.

David, if you cant confirm the above perpendicularity
maybe you could tell me why you are so anti-Dino?

I have not tried his products yet but it seems like
it should be great in combination with my TS75

Nils

I found a new feature:









^{...for immediate implementation}

 

Nils,

If you are serious in having your questions answered,

by the good folks on this forum, go to the "Additional Options..." button (I noted below) in the message window,

with your photos of your MFT/Rails and your TS75  set up......

and download those PHOTOS.

That way there could be no misunderstanding of your issues or misinterpretations of your intentions.

We will all still be here and wait patiently while you take those photos.

R.

P.S. As to downloading photos onto the Fog site their are excellent tutorials available thru the SEARCH button,

and if you have any issues with that I'm sure any long time members here would be available to assist you upon the asking.

David,
Dino is lucky to have you as a friend.
If you're searching for the ez challenge ( from the closed thread-ez-duzit)
Click here:  http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=88662

Nils come here for help and advice. Your actions are keeping others from doing the same.
What the (....)  Dino haves to do with this?
Is this your PT job? To discourage festool owners from posting their problems
and the same time to attack Dino?

Starting a fight ( ez-duzit ) and  at the end asking Dino to post his challenge at his forum,
that is moderated by the SMC stuff, so you can attack again?

Good luck with the challenge.
You may notice at the end that Dino is challenging  his own ideas., even if his invention works.
Try that for few days. Challenge your thoughts before you next attack.

Go ahead. Call me Dinoe if you like.

Yo Dino...   Have some respect for the man.


 david.

 David,

  I really try to stay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay afield of the EZ stuff. But, with all due respect, if "Nils" was genuinely looking for information, rather than controversy, he would have been met with a much more positive response. And, I will be perfectly honest here; I personally doubt "Nils" whole story, even doubt his identity.
 I have been around the Festool - EZ stuff since the beginning and can and will tell you Dino has posted anonymously asking things like like "hey did anyone hear about the EZ system?"as a way of getting a discussion started about his system. And when Festool won some award and EZ didn't, posted to the effect "OK - Festool advertises big $$ in mag, Festool wins ward. Ez doesn't advertises there; no award - hhhmmm?"Terrible insinuation. I have met Dino personally (both of us live in NJ and attended the NJ WW shows) spoke to him on the phone and emailed him. Nice guy, but don't like his marketing tactics. Let the products speak for themselves; don't tear down another's to make yours look good. I have often remarked on the forums, I couldn't imagine another CEO/owner behaving this way - can you see Rob Lee of Lee Valley knocking Tom Lie Nielson's products? I can't.  Enough old history.
 I think by and very large, the FOG members are willing to help anyone come up with a better way to work - just look at the responses, manuals, tutorials that are available here. But when someone, in this case, "Nils" seems to have another agenda in mind, stoking the Festoll-EZ feud, it's a good probability, he's going to be called on it, by the folks that are not looking for a fight, but by those who have been down this road too many times before.
 At the risk of attaining Bad Karma, I feel this one time, I needed to chime in. No worries, no more.

 Bob

  Bob

Bob - Thanks for chiming in.

d.epstein - Perhaps over time your perspective will change.

Bob. The whole story and not parts. I posted 0ne or twice with without using my name.
The reasons was given to you after I received your email. I may even have it.
At least of the moderators at the one forum that I posted, was acting Very Anti-ezsmart and I needed to find the answers before I can asked him to stop spreading BS at the forum. J.B. was the "contractor/associate" and you know that.
If you had the power to get my IP and use it against me because I was doing what had to be done, that shows your strong
relation with the same forum/administrator.

I can find the thread and the emails and make them public if you like.
On the other hand I have never call anyone to offer him free tools ot to tell them to shut-up.
Keith, the owner of SMC posted ( after he saw a demonstration ) that the ez is superior to Festool
and he received few calls not to do it again. ( you know the callers better than me)



About the FHB "review".
It was 100% fake.
 I told them to leave the ez out of it and the responce was that they have to compare
the ez vs the merits of others without looking at the entire system.
The title of the review was: Can A straight edge guide the tablesaw?
In order to replace the tablesaw you need to haveat least two major capabilities.
A. Narrow clamping.
B. Repeatability.

Nothing was mentioned at the "Review" about the repeaters and the Smart clamping system.





Anyway, I hope I win the Karma race.
With my best regards and few facts.
You  have a good day and a good Karma race.

 
Dino,

 This is the reason I try and stay away from this particualr area. Did I say you posted more than once ir twice? Once was enough, in my book. I don't know to whom you are referring, but I have never offered anyone free tools or told anyone to shut up. I don't know who called or didn't call Keith, but can assure you it was no-one, even remotely, employed by Festool. I also don't know any "J.B" associate/contractor anywhere.

 As to reviews, we can all find fault with reviews, especially if the tool we like doesn't  "win top honors". Personally, tool reviews are just a starting point, not an end point, for purchasing a tool. It was not the results of the mag tool test that's at issue, it was your very strong insinuation that the reason Festool won was due to their advertising there that I found, and still find offensive.
Ok, I have said what I had to and promise to all, no further responses will be comin' from me.

Bob

Not too much more!
The ban list on this forum is really short.  Only one person has ever been banned.
Is that number about to double, perhaps triple?
Matthew