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« on: October 29, 2010, 11:30 AM »

I was on my way to speedy hire to day to pick up some stuff to find that they have moved I have not been speedy for a year now!  I went looking for where they had moved to!  I saw a big orange building saying FLOOR2 GO!   Not long after driving past Floors2Go I got a txt message saying:

FLOORS2GO THE
UKS BIGGEST
WOOD FLOORING
SPECIALIST HAS UP
TO 75% OFF! WHILE
STOCK
LASTS!HURRY TO A
STORE NR YOU
floors2go.co.uk! TO
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F2GSTOP to 6077



Clearly if you txt that you will be paying a alot of money!   

BUT how did they pick up my mobile while driving past?!  I have never received a floors2go txt before and its funny I drive past it once and I get a txt on my mobile from them!   My blue tooth is switched off and WiFi is off they are some how getting phone signals. This must be illegal! Has any one els had this problem.  I have looked on google and alot of people have had these txts! They properly drive past one every day.

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 11:36 AM »

Maybe it was triggered by your phone jumping to a particular cell tower.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2010, 11:42 AM »

Maybe it was triggered by your phone jumping to a particular cell tower.

What do you mean?!  How would they get my phone number?!


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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 11:43 AM »

Not sure they would need your number if the cell provider broadcasts to every phone that enter the zone for the tower. However, I'm not familiar with the technology and am only speculating.

Also, are you sure that your Bluetooth was off? Looks like there are services offering proximity advertising using Bluetooth.

http://bluecastmobile.com/bluetooth-proximity-marketing
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 11:54 AM »

Do you have a smart phone with GPS capabilities?

There are a number of apps which have location-sensitive monitoring, with vendor ad tie-ins.  This sounds just what you're experiencing.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 12:00 PM »

I think Shane is right. The same thing happened to me while crossing the border between Denmark and Sweden in a car. As soon as we came over the bridge we each received a text that said "Welcome to Sweden" and something on currencies and emergency numbers as far as I remember. I think that when our phones were registered on the first cell tower in Sweden they send the text out to a unique ID of the phone registered on the tower - the same ID they use when they lock your phone to a certain provider (just guessing here...).

I think it was okay in that case but I wouldn't wan't to receive ads all the time while driving around. Doesn't sound legal but then again it just might be... I rarely read the small print...  Unsure
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 12:15 PM »

Do you have a smart phone with GPS capabilities?

There are a number of apps which have location-sensitive monitoring, with vendor ad tie-ins.  This sounds just what you're experiencing.


Now, that would really hack me off.  The SOBs bombard me with unwanted advertrash, then the cell phone company bills me for unwanted message traffic that runs up my message counter.  GRRR!!!  Somebody needs a trip to the woodshed here, methinks.  

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 12:18 PM »

I suspect, but again it's only speculation, that the company who is advertising would cover the cost of the text message and it wouldn't be billed to the recipient.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 12:24 PM »

I suspect, but again it's only speculation, that the company who is advertising would cover the cost of the text message and it wouldn't be billed to the recipient.

Somehow, years of observation of and participation in the telecommunications industry have taught me to be more than a bit wary of the carriers, and to watch my billing with an eagle eye.  I'd better shut my yap or I'll launch into a full-blown rant regarding the current state of telecommunications and the highly suspect and questionable lineage of the bozos that brought on this thing called "divestiture" back in the early-mid-80s.  

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 12:51 PM »

I think Shane is right. The same thing happened to me while crossing the border between Denmark and Sweden in a car. As soon as we came over the bridge we each received a text that said "Welcome to Sweden" and something on currencies and emergency numbers as far as I remember. I think that when our phones were registered on the first cell tower in Sweden they send the text out to a unique ID of the phone registered on the tower - the same ID they use when they lock your phone to a certain provider (just guessing here...).

I think it was okay in that case but I wouldn't wan't to receive ads all the time while driving around. Doesn't sound legal but then again it just might be... I rarely read the small print...  Unsure

Thats old!  It wont be the same thing.  When I was 12 and went on holiday I got txts from my services provider saying welcome to where ever  and the rate of mobile calls. Thats 11 years ago!  Thats your services provider what did that.  I am hoping floors 2 go is not my service provider even though the building is orange I don't think its orange.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2010, 12:52 PM »

Not sure they would need your number if the cell provider broadcasts to every phone that enter the zone for the tower. However, I'm not familiar with the technology and am only speculating.

Also, are you sure that your Bluetooth was off? Looks like there are services offering proximity advertising using Bluetooth.

http://bluecastmobile.com/bluetooth-proximity-marketing



Yes I never have my bluetooth on I have never even turned bluetooth on with this phone.  Its a crappy phone I just use for calling and I dont have any handfree in my van so no need for bluetooth to be turned on

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 12:56 PM »

Do you have a smart phone with GPS capabilities?

There are a number of apps which have location-sensitive monitoring, with vendor ad tie-ins.  This sounds just what you're experiencing.


No, well I dont see any logo on the screen saying GPS is turned on.  Its a rubbish £90 waterproof phone  which is a mint phone for the price though!  Last weekend I was a little drunk for some reason I started this game if I get my phone in your pint you have to down the pint!  My phone ended up in every ones drink! Got a little stick!!!


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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2010, 02:22 PM »

i had the same txt, you obviously forgot to tick a box somewhere about sharing info blah blah. i get them from howdens aswell.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2010, 02:30 PM »

On a slightly different subject i keep getting calls from Asian sounding people saying the exact same thing , that they are calling from Vodafone and checking that i have recieved my free phone yet and can i confirm details such as my postcode. As Im not stupid I say if your my provider you must have my details so you tell me  Laughing to which they cant answer. Obviously they must have got my mobile number from my own website and they dont have my postcode or anything else. I had one today and i said yeah i got the free phone thanks  Laughing then i asked her to hold a second and just left the phone on the side while i carried on working  Laughing Laughing.

They must get people falling for their B/S all the time i suppose they then go on to ask for your credit card number etc etc.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2010, 02:37 PM »

When I travel from Denver, CO to Vancouver, BC I usually get a series of text messages on my Verizon Blackberry from the wireless provider in Vancouver (Rogers Wireless) about their services.  I've not seen anything show up on my bill, however I did learn to turn off my personal cell phone because on one 10-day trip I got a bill for $500 for data roaming Scared.  Now I only leave my business phone (the Blackberry) turned on.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2010, 08:47 PM »

Cell phones and text messaging is the next junk advertising medium out there.  If you have a cell phone with text messaging turned on, you can receive text messages from others advertising whatever.  Guess what.  You get to pay for the text message.  That is at least true in the US.  This based on my experience.  I have eliminated text messaging from my phone for this very reason. 

I personally urge all of you to do the same.

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2010, 07:12 AM »

i had the same txt, you obviously forgot to tick a box somewhere about sharing info blah blah. i get them from howdens aswell.

No Dean!  I have never been Floors2go for one! Also the fact I never ever recieved a txt from floor 2 go  untill I drive past one is really strange! I have not received another one since so if I drive past floos2go again ill sure be checking my phone.

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2010, 07:25 AM »

Cell phones and text messaging is the next junk advertising medium out there.  If you have a cell phone with text messaging turned on, you can receive text messages from others advertising whatever.  Guess what.  You get to pay for the text message.  That is at least true in the US.  This based on my experience.  I have eliminated text messaging from my phone for this very reason. 

I personally urge all of you to do the same.

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In the UK it should not happen you should never get charged for a txt unless you authorize it BUT it did happen with my girlfriend she got charged £1 a txt and she got this txt every month for 4 months so it cost her £4 she didnt notice untill she checked her bills I know my girlfriend would not of signed up for football information! I never heard of any one in the UK eliminating txt messaging in fact I dont know if you can actually do that in the uk.

I hate the ones where they call you but it only rings once you dont have any chance of answering! They do this on purpose so you call back but it costs you alot of money! I did it! I got this missed call twice and I thought I never heard it ring I rang it back this guy starting talking saying sorry we missed you I then ended up with a bill for 4 pounds just for couple of minutes on the phone!



My parents get the worst calls!  My dad was working in Africa on an oil rig and the African Government decided they supply the company Food and Internet and Mobile connections!  Well soon as it changed over to the Africans my Dad said the food became horrible and the internet kept cutting off and worse! My mum was getting calls from abroad saying my Dad was Dead or seriously ill send money so we can send the body back or give him medical help! So my mum called his mobile and to find he is fine first time it happend it was a big shock of coarse we was getting calls all the time mobile and house phone. He left as its a horrible place to work and went to work in Dubai and Malta no more calls now.


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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2010, 07:41 AM »

i never been to f2go either but still get em, they share info
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2010, 10:00 AM »

Cell phones and text messaging is the next junk advertising medium out there.  If you have a cell phone with text messaging turned on, you can receive text messages from others advertising whatever.  Guess what.  You get to pay for the text message.  That is at least true in the US.  This based on my experience.  I have eliminated text messaging from my phone for this very reason. 

I personally urge all of you to do the same.

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I hate the ones where they call you but it only rings once you dont have any chance of answering! They do this on purpose so you call back but it costs you alot of money! I did it! I got this missed call twice and I thought I never heard it ring I rang it back this guy starting talking saying sorry we missed you I then ended up with a bill for 4 pounds just for couple of minutes on the phone!






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You fell for that one  Laughing Laughing Laughing i have had a few of them but i guessed what they were and phoned Vodafone to complain. They knew all about them and said yes if you ring them you will be charged loads of money
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I hate the ones where they call you but it only rings once you dont have any chance of answering! They do this on purpose so you call back but it costs you alot of money! I did it! I got this missed call twice and I thought I never heard it ring I rang it back this guy starting talking saying sorry we missed you I then ended up with a bill for 4 pounds just for couple of minutes on the phone!


You fell for that one  Laughing Laughing Laughing i have had a few of them but i guessed what they were and phoned Vodafone to complain. They knew all about them and said yes if you ring them you will be charged loads of money

It's not rocket science - if the number is non-geographical, then don't call it back. Non-geo numbers are easy to spot, and no customer would be ringing you from one, so it's not someone you need to speak to.
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I hate the ones where they call you but it only rings once you dont have any chance of answering! They do this on purpose so you call back but it costs you alot of money! I did it! I got this missed call twice and I thought I never heard it ring I rang it back this guy starting talking saying sorry we missed you I then ended up with a bill for 4 pounds just for couple of minutes on the phone!


You fell for that one  Laughing Laughing Laughing i have had a few of them but i guessed what they were and phoned Vodafone to complain. They knew all about them and said yes if you ring them you will be charged loads of money

It's not rocket science - if the number is non-geographical, then don't call it back. Non-geo numbers are easy to spot, and no customer would be ringing you from one, so it's not someone you need to speak to.

Yeah I know but when you just see 1 or 2 missed called on your phone you just ring it back well I did any way! Dont really bother looking quick glance and if a name comes up if not then find out who it is.  Now I do check the numbers before I ring them back!

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2010, 11:36 AM »

i never been to f2go either but still get em, they share info

Maybe you drive past one at the time?!     All I am sayin is I have only received one txt of them and I have driven past the company once!  So its got nothing to do with sharing infomation its about gettin your phone number as you go past.

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2010, 12:15 PM »

but my phone number aint on the van. and not driven past 1 for weeks and we had the txt on the same day. i bet next time i get 1 so do you
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2010, 02:14 PM »

but my phone number aint on the van. and not driven past 1 for weeks and we had the txt on the same day. i bet next time i get 1 so do you

We will c!   

Ha I do have my number on my van! Thing is they must note my number down quickly as I drive past though some one looking through the windows watchin who drives past.

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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2010, 09:47 PM »

but my phone number aint on the van. and not driven past 1 for weeks and we had the txt on the same day. i bet next time i get 1 so do you

We will c!   

Ha I do have my number on my van! Thing is they must note my number down quickly as I drive past though some one looking through the windows watchin who drives past.

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Guys, this is targeted advertisement. It is paid for (or should be,) by the person/company. it works (something) like this:

All mobile providers know where you are according to your GPS. It is ALWAYS enabled. Shutting it "off", only means that they cannot share the GPS info with anyone. The provider however, can use it at will.

So......

When your GPS position matches whatever parameter was set, you get the message. It is highly unlikely that anyone jotted down the number from the side of your ride as you passed by. Nor is it likely that any information was exchanged between the parties,... at all.
When the bill comes, see who the sender's number belongs to. However this info can be 'spoofed' by the provider, as it might say that it was "Floor2go" who paid for the call, but you can pretty much be assured that they never actually placed it.

In it's own way, it works much the same as google's 'targeted' ads, or certain mailer's you get by post (snail mail).

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