HowardH
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« on: July 13, 2009, 11:09 PM » |
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well, it was 107 on my truck thermometer today.  Supposed to the same tomorrow. Woodworking is impossible under these conditions - you risk heat stroke working in the garage. Ok, I thought. I've had enough. I'm going to get the biggest, baddest portable AC unit available to at least try to make it manageable. I head over to my local Fry's (Ironic, isn't it considering the heat) and they have the Soleus 14,000 BTU unit on sale. I figured a unit this big would have my garage doubling as a large walk in freezer by morning, right? Not at this pace. It's so hot in the garage, the compressor isn't staying cool long enough to blow enough cold air to make one lick of difference. It keeps cycling off and then it simply blows hot air, kinda like me. Maybe it will begin to work later tonight as it cools off around here to a bone chilling 83 by morning. As a comparison, my family and I took a few days last week to visit some of my wife's family in Duluth. A very beautiful place in the summer. High was 65, low was 55. Perfect. Then we step of the plane at DFW at 8:30 and the hammer descends to deliver a death blow - 98 deg. It's a shame that what is supposed to be the best time of year to enjoy the outdoors is the worst, at least around here. People are literally dying every day from effects of the heat. 8 months of the year Dallas is a fine place to live. For the other 4 months, it's time to get the heck outta Dodge.
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CharlesWilson
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 07:55 AM » |
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It's too hot in Texas, and it's too humid in Connecticut. My shop hasn't been lower than 72% humidity for months now. Maybe the wood is stable, but glue doesn't seem to set up quite right, and finishing is dicey.
My dehumidifier is not making much headway. Well, maybe it is time for a new dehumidifier.
Howard, can you send up some of that dry air? (Cool it off first, please!)
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 08:06 AM » |
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Howard,
I understand what you are saying about the Temp in Texas. My dad lives in Houston and I go down to see every so often. I remember about 10 years ago, it was a record high for 118 degree's for 4 days straight. It's unreal hot down there. Getting into a car that has been parked under the sun is no fun either. Because of the heat down there, it's a different life style. I read somewhere that either Texas itself or the city of Houston is the most air conditioned city or state in the world. I'm glad I don't live there. I live in Ohio. I have to say that it is quite nice when you travel to Texas in the spring months. Great weather.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 09:06 AM » |
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It's been pretty hot down here (PHX) the last couple of days. I think they said we've reached 115. I guess I've grown accustomed to it (this from a guy who grew up outside of Toronto) because it really doesn't bother me at all. I'm a teacher so I have the summers off and most of that time is spent in the garage. I just keep the door open, have a fan going and put some Otis Redding on and I'm in 7th heaven.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 09:53 AM » |
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While not that hot, I lived in Saint louis and the humidity and 90's would kill. One thing that will help is make sure your doors are insulated. It's worth it. I used a portable before in another house and left the garage door open and it would keep it in the mid 80's when the outside was over 100. The bigger thing for me was keeping the humidity down. I could take a hotter temp if it was dryer. Good luck! My latest house i'm relegated to the basement thats underground so it stays pretty constant, but now that I'm back in the north east (PA), it seems much more tolerable that Saint Louis was. They only had two temps colder than crap or hotter than he!!. Or the wind is blowing 150 mph (kph for you metric folks). Never did get use to makin like a rabbit and goin underground when a twisty was near by.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 03:32 PM » |
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Well, Let me extend "heck on earth" to the Southeast Texas.
We are breaking heat records every single day in Houston. No rain for several weeks, we have a good chance this coming weekend on 7/18 but will see.
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Tom Bellemare
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 04:43 PM » |
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The last weather map I saw, Houston was several degrees cooler than Austin... It is usually more humid though.
We broke the record for breaking records about a month ago, I think.
Typically, about 8 months of the year this is God's country. The other 4 months, Lucifer takes over.
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 05:41 PM » |
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Yeah, it's been pretty hot in Pittsburgh this summer, I bet we're averaging low 70s for the high and mid 50s for the low.  It's been a pleasantly cool summer this year, in fact it was almost cold last night. You guys should think about moving to a more hospitable part of the world.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 06:13 PM » |
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The last time I was in Sharon PA, it snowed for several days. I'll take the 68-degree water of Barton Springs Pool and 105-degree air over 3-feet of snow any day.  Tom
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 08:57 PM » |
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The last time I was in Sharon PA it snowed for several days. I'll take the 68-degree water of Barton Springs Pool and 105-degree air over 3-feet of snow any day.  Tom The nice thing about Pittsburgh is that it's protected by the jet stream from a harsh winter. The jet stream keeps the cold Canadian air from dropping down to Pittsburgh until January or so. Some winters the jet stream never moves south pass us and we have a fairly mild winter. Last year I don't remember shoveling snow at all just the occasional snowfall that you could sweep with a broom. As far as extreme weather is concerned Pittsburgh has it made. We have four seasons, no hurricanes or tornadoes, not too hot or cold and not too much snow or rain. We do have humidity, not like the southern states but it's generally pretty high. If you like to live in an area with all four seasons and don't like extremes Pittsburgh is ideal. I've never been to Texas but if I ever do visit, I'm going in the winter.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 10:03 PM » |
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I worked for a year in Houston as a teenager installing rain gutters, fun up on the roof during those summers.
Now I live in the Bay Area where people complain when the temp drops below 60 or above 80 and they don't have to complain very often at all.
I've gotten pretty spoiled when it comes to weather.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 12:49 AM » |
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Well the great thing about Festool is that I can move my whole workshop outside in about 20 minutes. This allows me to enjoy the pleasant Seattle summer weather while dodging the occasional rainy day. However, in the winter I'm stuck in the basement while you Southerners are enjoying the sun. Martin.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 07:29 AM » |
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Tom, are you from Sharon PA? I grew up in Youngstown. Basically right down the street.
Brice, Do you live on Mount Washington, what a great view? I lived in Pittsburgh for 2 years while I went to college. I live in crafton which is not to far from downtown.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 09:45 AM » |
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'Not from Sharon - my ex is. Her Dad was the school board maintenance supervisor in Sharon. Her uncle owned a jewelry store in Youngstown.
Tom
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 10:07 AM » |
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Youngstown is probably my favorite Bruce Springsteen song. (I like his music, not a huge fan, but that song is amazing to me.)
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2009, 10:16 AM » |
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'Not from Sharon - my ex is. Her Dad was the school board maintenance supervisor in Sharon. Her uncle owned a jewelry store in Youngstown.
Tom
Do you know what it was called?
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2009, 10:28 AM » |
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I worked for a year in Houston as a teenager installing rain gutters, fun up on the roof during those summers.
Now I live in the Bay Area where people complain when the temp drops below 60 or above 80 and they don't have to complain very often at all.
I've gotten pretty spoiled when it comes to weather.
I hear you. When I was in college, I worked summers in South Texas as a roofer. It had a certain odd status, people figured that you just don't mess with someone crazy enough to work on a roof in a Tx summer. I made it out to the bay area myself, loved it. There is an amazing migration path from TX to the bay area. Read Larry McMurtry's All My Friends Are Going to be Strangers for a laugh or two. Now I'm in New Mexico, at least its a dry heat  .
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2009, 10:37 AM » |
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My dad who lives in texas was telling me in the summer, roofers start very early in the morning and stop working at noon or so???
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2009, 10:49 AM » |
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Do you know what it was called? I can't remember, that was a long time ago, pushing 20 years now. It seems to me that it was right in the heart of the city. roofers start very early in the morning and stop working at noon or so Most of the roofers I see here start early in the morning and don't stop until either it's dark or they're finished. It's a brutal job. Tom
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2009, 11:06 AM » |
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Euless,Texas transplanted to Delaware TRANSLATION USELESS,TEXAS moved to DELA WHERE.
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2009, 05:07 PM » |
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Here's a link worth a read How to Keep Cool Without Air Conditioning.. Mostly common sense, but a few clever ideas worth a try.
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2009, 05:10 PM » |
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My dad who lives in texas was telling me in the summer, roofers start very early in the morning and stop working at noon or so???
Doh!  Why didn't we think of that? We worked till dark, but I'll have to confess the pace slows down mid day. Sure couldn't do it now.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2009, 06:14 PM » |
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......Brice, Do you live on Mount Washington, what a great view? I lived in Pittsburgh for 2 years while I went to college. I live in crafton which is not to far from downtown.
No, I can't afford to live there. My avatar pic is from one of the townhouses I worked on in Mt. Washington. I've worked on maybe 5 of the 8 units in that complex, I believe they range from 1.5-3.5 million. That's pretty steep for Pittsburgh.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2009, 10:47 PM » |
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seventy five in Wisconsin tomorrow not much traffic either
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2009, 07:24 AM » |
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71 in Columbus, Ohio for the high tomorrow.
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2009, 12:10 PM » |
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71 in Columbus, Ohio for the high tomorrow.
That's right... rub it in  Going to be 101 again today but the trust ole weatherman says it may not get out of the low 90's the weekend. Woo Hoo! Get the jackets out! Better put the freeze guards on the faucets. We lived in the Bay Area for a couple of years back in the late 80's and it can certainly spoil you. They have all these micro climates - The high in Pacifica on the coast can be in the 50's in July and it can be in the 100's just 30 miles inland. SF is generally perfect weather wise, fifties at night and mid 70's during the day. That, my friends, is perfect woodworking weather.
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2009, 09:39 PM » |
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The part of the Bay Area I live in is Piedmont (next to Oakland) known as the East Bay. We are just across the bay from San Francisco. The temperatures here are generally around 10-15 degrees warmer than San Francisco which is fine with me.
Mark Twain once said the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco. When the fog is covering the city in the summer and it's 60 degrees but feels barely 50 with the wind coming off that cold North Pacific, the sun is usually out in the East Bay and it's in the 70s with a lovely cool breeze.
The micro climates here are unreal. I've driven in the to Bay Area from the East and watched the thermostat on the outside of the car go from over 100 down to 65 degrees in 30 minutes of driving. I guess the coastal hills keep the cooling sea breeze from the inland areas.
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