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Offline Bob Marino

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« on: March 01, 2017, 10:26 AM »
 Of course Apple makes wonderful and innovative products. I get that. But is it only me that seems to have Iphone issues at about the 2 year old mark? Battery loses power very quickly, difficulty in retrieving voicemails, no sound at times and other technical issues that just make you forgo fixing (very expensive) and just get another one? And they are not cheap either. It seems Apple has decided to make a these things with a 2 year life cycle.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 10:38 AM »
I agree Bob. I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but isn't it ironic that most plans have a 2 year contract as well... Something to think about.  [smile]

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 10:51 AM »
I agree Bob. I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but isn't it ironic that most plans have a 2 year contract as well... Something to think about.  [smile]

 I'm not a conspiracy theorist either, but it seems it's more than coincidental that these phones don't last much past the 2 year mark.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 10:56 AM »
Bob, yep!

Every 2 years I seem to be frustrated with my iphone.  Made a decision a few months ago that the next phone would be an android.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 10:57 AM »
It is all disposable these days Bob!

My 6+ still has decent battery life and is still an all around good phone. The only issue I have sometime is that Mail won't load up proper. I don't know if that is a curse or a blessing!!

My company partners with Apple on a lot of things plus I am, and have been, an "Apple guy" since the late 80's but I do agree that phones in general are more disposable these days.

You can get them to replace the battery at an Apple Store if you like the phone. I am holding out for the 10th anniversary phone later this year... if the features are compelling enough. If not, I might get a replacement battery. I think they are around 80 bucks.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 11:10 AM »
C'mon Bob! Just buck up and get the 7 plus ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 11:11 AM »
 Last year, I  think my daughter either lost her phone or it as water damaged. I was told a new replacement would be full retail for the next model. I went to a LOCAL store and bought a second hand Iphone 5 - IIRC. Of course no guarantee. Well, a month or 2 later, problems arose with that phone. Sooooo, we go to the Apple store and explain  to the guy who kind of sorts the customers out. We sit down and explain to the next Apple employee about issues with the phone. Looks at it for a minute or two and says nothing they can do, you can either buy a used older model or get a new phone. Then starting explaining their new convoluted pricing plans. I said "ok, I'll take the used phone." While he was getting that, I played around with the phone and removed that hideous, ghetto pink screen cover and problem was solved. Again, great company and some brilliantly techy people there, but they seem to be on autopilot - don't trouble shoot - just sell 'em another phone. Saved myself a couple of hundred dollars that day and came away with a slightly different impression of super  techy customer support.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2017, 11:14 AM »
C'mon Bob! Just buck up and get the 7 plus ;)

 Hey Chris,

 I admit that I am a total non techy guy, so I am not in need of the latest and greatest model coming out. The 6 has more than enough tech for my purposes.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2017, 11:15 AM »
In all honesty the battery on my 6 plus was getting less powerful. Though I had ancamera issue a year ago and the tech guys fixed it within an hour. I do believe they make these for replacement every couple of years though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2017, 11:25 AM »
I have a 5s. Hard to believe it's only 3-1/2 years old.
Still works fine but I'm sure I use it much less than Bob.

I think part of our dismay with Apple products showing signs of age
is that generally there is no issue at all with them and we just get used to that.
So, when something seems wrong we just aren't can't cope.

I started using Macs with the Macintosh SE in 1987.
I got pretty good at maintaining the os which although much less problematic than the PC's os still took a good bit of work.
Since moving on to OSX those skills have withered away.
Of course now we have the internet and we no longer need to "know",
we just need to know how to "find out".

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Re: Iphones
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2017, 11:32 AM »
 My battery goes from 100% to 50% and then to low battery very quickly. On low battery, when plugged in, goes immediately to double whatever the percentage was. Quirky.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2017, 12:06 PM »
My daughter has a iPhone 7, and its battery started " misbehaving". Apple replaced her battery for free. They determined its battery was one that they are replacing due to issues.
I do not have specifics, but she was a happy to get a new battery at no charge.

Batteries usually can handle just so many recharges. So your battery might have reached its cycle maximum. But maybe? Some of you have the same issue she did.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2017, 12:06 PM »
My battery goes from 100% to 50% and then to low battery very quickly. On low battery, when plugged in, goes immediately to double whatever the percentage was. Quirky.
Batteries are $18 off of Amazon and fairly easy to change. Watch a Youtube video.


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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2017, 12:22 PM »
My battery goes from 100% to 50% and then to low battery very quickly. On low battery, when plugged in, goes immediately to double whatever the percentage was. Quirky.

This is known behavior Bob. When the battery hits a certain number of charges, it shows this erratic behavior.

Get them to replace the battery and you should be good for a few more years if you want to keep that phone.

Sometimes my phone will drop to 1% but stay that way for hours while I am using it.

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Re: Iphones
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2017, 01:09 PM »
Just an FYI for iphone batts, laptop batts as well. Run the devices to compete 0% and it will shutoff, then plug in for recharge and allow it to go to 100% before unplugging. The electronics must go through periodic recalibration as the batteries age. Several times a year if not monthly can be needed.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2017, 01:18 PM »
No problems with my 3+ year old Samsung S5 Android.

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Re: Iphones
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2017, 03:26 PM »
Nokia is rereleasing get their dumb-phone 3310.

The battery stuff was already mentioned.
I am on my 3rd laptop battery. But more RAM and a SSD made it quick like a bunny ~4 years ago.

One problem with the phones is the IOS updates, and new S/W only runs on the later versions. I like them, but even an iPad is not a lap top replacement... Hence the 3310 mention.

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2017, 04:11 PM »
I guess my phone is an anomaly. I'm still using an old iPhone 4s. I've had the battery replaced once and it's still working great. The only things I can think of that make my situation different than many others is I ponied up for the 64gb model (I like to listen to music and podcasts while I work) and I stopped updating the operating system long ago. Seems that there are a disproportionate number of complaints after every new "update" gets pushed out... (Slowly removes tinfoil hat and puts it away...;)
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2017, 09:11 PM »
Of course Apple makes wonderful and innovative products. I get that. But is it only me that seems to have Iphone issues at about the 2 year old mark? Battery loses power very quickly, difficulty in retrieving voicemails, no sound at times and other technical issues that just make you forgo fixing (very expensive) and just get another one? And they are not cheap either. It seems Apple has decided to make a these things with a 2 year life cycle.

@Bob Marino

Because your phone is nothing but a small computer, it needs to be re-booted occasionally (just like your desktop computer does).

The first step in any troubleshooting process is to re-boot the phone.  That means a complete shutdown.  This process does two things;

1)  reloads the software (fixing corrupted software problems)

2)  Forces your phone to find the strongest signal available.  Sometimes phones lock onto a tower, and don't let go.  This is very           noticeable if you are driving from one location to another, and can no longer get strong service in area's you previously could.

When my battery starts draining quickly, a trick my Daughter showed me closes all the programs/apps/features that I had been using, and leaves me with just the current feature I want.  On my iPhone, I double click my home button on the bottom of the device, and it displays all the programs running in the backround that I thought I was done using.  I swipe them "up" and they close, leaving me with just the one current program.

Of course you may have already been aware of these issues, and it is really just your battery that is going bad.  In that case, another phone is the only solution.  I have never purchased used phones, but I have purchased previous generation phones that are still considered new, but come with a substantial discount, and a warranty.  I tend to keep my phone until I am told they no longer support the operating system, which I think the iPhone 4 is the latest to be dropped. 
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2017, 04:53 AM »
Of course Apple makes wonderful and innovative products. I get that. But is it only me that seems to have Iphone issues at about the 2 year old mark? Battery loses power very quickly, difficulty in retrieving voicemails, no sound at times and other technical issues that just make you forgo fixing (very expensive) and just get another one? And they are not cheap either. It seems Apple has decided to make a these things with a 2 year life cycle.

@Bob Marino

 Yep, done all that. I guess it may be new battery time.

Because your phone is nothing but a small computer, it needs to be re-booted occasionally (just like your desktop computer does).

The first step in any troubleshooting process is to re-boot the phone.  That means a complete shutdown.  This process does two things;

1)  reloads the software (fixing corrupted software problems)

2)  Forces your phone to find the strongest signal available.  Sometimes phones lock onto a tower, and don't let go.  This is very           noticeable if you are driving from one location to another, and can no longer get strong service in area's you previously could.

When my battery starts draining quickly, a trick my Daughter showed me closes all the programs/apps/features that I had been using, and leaves me with just the current feature I want.  On my iPhone, I double click my home button on the bottom of the device, and it displays all the programs running in the backround that I thought I was done using.  I swipe them "up" and they close, leaving me with just the one current program.

Of course you may have already been aware of these issues, and it is really just your battery that is going bad.  In that case, another phone is the only solution.  I have never purchased used phones, but I have purchased previous generation phones that are still considered new, but come with a substantial discount, and a warranty.  I tend to keep my phone until I am told they no longer support the operating system, which I think the iPhone 4 is the latest to be dropped.
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2017, 05:03 AM »
Bob, yep!

Every 2 years I seem to be frustrated with my iphone.  Made a decision a few months ago that the next phone would be an android.

 Decide on any particular model?
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2017, 05:12 AM »
When my battery starts draining quickly, a trick my Daughter showed me closes all the programs/apps/features that I had been using, and leaves me with just the current feature I want.  On my iPhone, I double click my home button on the bottom of the device, and it displays all the programs running in the backround that I thought I was done using.  I swipe them "up" and they close, leaving me with just the one current program.

This one is a myth.

https://www.howtogeek.com/204552/no-closing-background-apps-on-your-iphone-or-ipad-wont-make-it-faster/
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Re: Iphones
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 08:18 AM »
When my battery starts draining quickly, a trick my Daughter showed me closes all the programs/apps/features that I had been using, and leaves me with just the current feature I want.  On my iPhone, I double click my home button on the bottom of the device, and it displays all the programs running in the backround that I thought I was done using.  I swipe them "up" and they close, leaving me with just the one current program.

This one is a myth.

https://www.howtogeek.com/204552/no-closing-background-apps-on-your-iphone-or-ipad-wont-make-it-faster/

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Thanks for the info!  Imagine how excited I am at the prospect of teaching my Daughter how to use her phone, rather than the other way around!

Information from the Garry Martin link

"Overall, apps running in the background aren’t something you need to worry about so much on iOS. If you want to save battery life and prevent apps from running in the background, the place to do it is in the Background App Refresh screen".
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2017, 08:28 AM »
FWIW, my iphone 4 was fine, and going on 4 years old or so when it fell out of my pocket while I was getting some wood, and it spent the night in a rain storm. Found it by telling "find my iphone" to have the phone ring. The screen was toast, but I was able to back it up remotely before shutting it off.

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Re: Iphones
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2017, 09:23 AM »
FWIW, my iphone 4 was fine, and going on 4 years old or so when it fell out of my pocket while I was getting some wood, and it spent the night in a rain storm. Found it by telling "find my iphone" to have the phone ring. The screen was toast, but I was able to back it up remotely before shutting it off.

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2017, 11:30 AM »
Ah bob I got a iPhone 4S it went on 4 tours to the sand box with me to. I got it around 2009 ( I think) I just replaced the battery at the Apple Store cost me about £70. Still works like a champ
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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2017, 11:33 AM »
Tottaly agree after two years their products become useless regarding phones and Ipads.

I always find when its hitting 2 years DONT EVER update the phone. Your phone will last longer. Im 100% sure apple make the phones faulty via their updates. So I stopped updating.

Every update seems to make the phone slower and slower.
ios and apps get bigger using so much memory that its pointless getting an Iponhe with less than  128gb now if you want it to last you few years.  Buy a 32gb and it will be full in no time.

Ive ditched apple because of all this dont trust them.
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I replaced my Wifes Iphone with google pixel 128gb which comes with unlimited cloud storage.
When my contract is up im replacing my Iphone but not sure with what yet likely be pixel.
 
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2017, 12:40 PM »
I have a strict policy of never updating. The device works, it doesn't need some BS updates that. As others I am suspicious of the updates and what they actually do to older products.
Except for when my iPhones have fallen into a pool of water, down a chimney or had a 2x4 fall on them, they have lasted more than 2 years. 6+ has more than 2 years on it and my old original 3 still works fine.
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2017, 04:26 PM »
Ah bob I got a iPhone 4S it went on 4 tours to the sand box with me to. I got it around 2009 ( I think) I just replaced the battery at the Apple Store cost me about £70. Still works like a champ

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I currently use a 64GB iPhone 4S that was released in 2011. I had the battery replaced in January and it's (again) going strong.

I do OS updates, but mostly not within the first two weeks after they were originally released.

I will continue to use it until it's absolutely worn out. Then I buy a new one. I do not follow Apple's cycle, I follow mine. And for now, the 4S is perfectly fine.

Same goes for my iPad Mini - it's from 2012 and also going strong - no troubles. Will also only see a replacement when completely worn out = unusable.

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