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« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2011, 04:20 PM »

Brett,

Ever heard the saying

"Never judge a book by its cover"

Dont look at his car, look at the tools. They dont have to be festool but they do have to be in good order, clean and cared for. Thats a better judge of if a guy can do his job.

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« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2011, 04:20 PM »

Windmill man, yeh it does have some great write ups and deservedly so, im a little worried what it may be worth after 5yrs tho, as we all know the transporters hold their money extremely well, as for the t5s i think the problems are mainly from 03-07 apparently many engine issues, the brand new transporter is awesome but for a comparable model to the hyundai your talking big bucks, my budget really is about 12k and that 5 yr warranty is great piece of mind, what would you do?
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« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2011, 04:23 PM »

JMB, for some  the familys are  more important than a van, days out, shopping etc than carrying £10,000 worth of tools around in a van. Site joiners can easily get away with just a car you dont need a mass of tools.. What would you do if there was a power cut on site? go home as you cant use hand tools??

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« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2011, 04:24 PM »

Dan ,

Thought about lease, 100% tax write off? Depending on lease type no maintenance, tyres or tax.

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« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2011, 04:25 PM »

Oh oh im so glad i came accross this thread! Im in the market for a new van as my t4 is great but i need something newer, im looking at the dare i say it hyundai iload, has a 5 yr warranty,170 horses,aircon, leccy winduz, i test drove one last week and i like it, ive been looking at t5s but everyone i know has had issues with them and dropped big bucks on repairs, i think my minds made up, has anyone else got the hyundai if not check it out its a sexy looking van!

Jmb ill send you a pic of my audi i sold last year was a dream but couldnt afford it when the work dried up  Crying

Is it bang Tidy?   Is it on your facebook?  Cus I got a crappy phone!


I just put it back on i deleted it when i sold it but yeh you can view it on there

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« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2011, 04:26 PM »

Location is a slight problem for me.

You see Brett, i have a wife also so with my 2 boys that makes, emm, think now, no its 4  Big Grin  Traffic has 3 seats so someone cant come.  We live about .5 mile from town & no buss service out our way.  Train station about 1 mile away & airport about 3 miles away  Tongue Out  We have a harbour also but no ferries.  

Dean, if you could experience our weather in wintertime then you would understand why we need a car  Crying
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« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2011, 04:29 PM »

Here's my van. I can just about fit my MFT 800 inside the trunk/ boot! Not really recommended for professional contractors!




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« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2011, 04:30 PM »

Windmill man, 100% of 20% people seem to think they can write their whole tax bill if they lease a van...my budget is £200 per month with 4k down, dont want to be paying £250-300 for the transporter on lease really,
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« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2011, 04:31 PM »

Windmill man, yeh it does have some great write ups and deservedly so, im a little worried what it may be worth after 5yrs tho, as we all know the transporters hold their money extremely well, as for the t5s i think the problems are mainly from 03-07 apparently many engine issues, the brand new transporter is awesome but for a comparable model to the hyundai your talking big bucks, my budget really is about 12k and that 5 yr warranty is great piece of mind, what would you do?

Hey get a crappy fiat lol. I paid £11200 for my van so well with in your budget

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« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2011, 04:36 PM »

Fiat, that's basically a Ferrari then yea  Big Grin

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Richard, nice looking van  Wink  What is it ?
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« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2011, 04:37 PM »

Dan,

Leasing is like van rental. it is a direct overhead, its totally tax deductable. Inc the Vat element

John

Should have perhaps said lease purchase.
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« Reply #71 on: May 08, 2011, 04:40 PM »

JMB, for some  the familys are  more important than a van, days out, shopping etc than carrying £10,000 worth of tools around in a van. Site joiners can easily get away with just a car you dont need a mass of tools.. What would you do if there was a power cut on site? go home as you cant use hand tools??

John

I can use hand tools but it slower and does not make you money seen as der is power 99% of the time I think one day of work if der was no power is no problem and every one would be in the same boat..  Apart from this one car joiner who just has hand tools well he can have the 1 day of glory or I get my generator out of my VAN.

You say families and shopping is more important  well no money you cnt do them things any way.

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« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2011, 04:41 PM »

Fiat, that's basically a Ferrari then yea  Big Grin

I'm outta here cos the last time so many posts were made in a short time my thread got deleted, think there is a rule against that  Blink

Richard, nice looking van  Wink  What is it ?

Haahaa lol.
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« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2011, 04:44 PM »

Dan,

Leasing is like van rental. it is a direct overhead, its totally tax deductable. Inc the Vat element

John

Should have perhaps said lease purchase.

20% is tax deductable as i understand it
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« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2011, 04:48 PM »

All the lads i worked with a few years ago made money on sites just using a car. Me and my mate shared his car to get to the site, with a few power tools and hand tools. You only need basic power tools on site, i think i only ever used, mitre saw, cordless drill, circular saw, jigsaw and nail guns.. Which will fit in the back of a car.
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« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2011, 04:49 PM »


Richard, nice looking van  Wink  What is it ?

It's a BMW convertible. When you want to put the roof down you have to lower a partition in the boot and the top collapses on top of it. Basically there is no boot when the roof is down.

But, I should remember to take a photo the next time I am doing 70 mph on the highway with the roof down and a couple of 10 foot planks sticking up in the air from behind the driver's seat!

Seriously the MFT 800 is perfect for the little jobs. I wish I had bought more than one in the recon sale.
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« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2011, 04:57 PM »

About 7-8 yrs ago before i went self employed i used to drive my honda civic type r to work and i got nothing but grief from the foreman on site who were jealous, couldnt do without my van now tho no way! I used to get loads in my honda even took half a stable door back to the workshop on the back seat once, i remember driving back with sawdust and crap all over the interior thinkin darn i need a van lol!
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« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2011, 05:05 PM »

One of the joiners on a site i was on (he was a agency worker) turned up for a couple of days in a Porche 911  Scared
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« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2011, 05:06 PM »

Umm type r
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« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2011, 05:09 PM »

Yeh you know of it?
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« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2011, 05:16 PM »

Yeh you know of it?

You r into car hey lol

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« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2011, 05:22 PM »

To cut a long story short, when i got rid of my audi and my van was in for repair i drove my missus £500 punto to work and got my festo gear out the back of that, would you think less of me then jmb? Lol

Haahaaa! lol   If you read what I wrote above I said  exceptions if your van is for repair or something  so I would ask you, you would say its in for repair! I would then say yeah your alrite then lol!  but cus you got your Festo out I would properly say you need to get the new Festool stuff lol!

JMB


Ha ha ha missed that one!
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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2011, 08:17 AM »

Well, I've got three, plus the wife. If we all go, we go in her car. The van is for work and well worth having for the write-off. No rear seats. I reckon when I've fully depreciated it, I'll swap the full bulkhead and security grilles into a new one and put a bench seat in the old one for the herd. Maybe a couple DVD screens, a playstation, a camper awning.........

The van is great for connecting with only one kid at a time. With three, sometimes somebody gets left out for a while. Riding in the work van is a special time.  Big Grin
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« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2011, 03:50 PM »

 
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I agree I dont see the need for massive vans unless your a builder or like you said a workshop joiner BUT you do need a Van cus I see sooo many site joiners who turn up in a car and have der chop saw on the back seat! If I was Forman I would be like dont bother getting out of your car go home lol!  Cnt see any joiner being any good if they use a car unless they have der van in for repair or something. 
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Waaayyyyy back in the good ol' days, i found a job a mason's helper.  the boss was one of the very best around and was always sought after for the most complicated projects where the skill needed to be supreme.  As long as I worked with him, his mode of transportation/trucking was a big beatup Cadillac. He used it for work, hauling tools and upon many an occasion, he sent me to the supply yard to pick up a load of sand and cement.  On weekends, the "truck" served as his family car as he went to town. or wherever toting wife and five kids. 

I knew another tradesman who was a master machinist and also a much in demand photographer.  He would go to work with his beat up old jalopy, i don't recall the brand, his various tools of trade loaded into the trunk and back seat.  His tools were ancient, but he never failed to get work when he needed it.  His big problem was he had a liking for "suds".  Once he had cash in hand to spare, he would fall off the wagon for a month or so.  When he would hit bottom, he would look for work as either a machinist  or photographer.  He was that good, that he was always in demand even though all employers knew he would only be around for a couple of months until he fell off again.  My Uncle used to say about him and his work that "you can't tell how far a frog can jump by his looks." 
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« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2011, 04:36 PM »

When i was single, a plumber friend asked me if i would build a stone fireplace for him up in Vermont.  (I'm in southern Connecticut).  I told him i would only do it on weekends, which was fine with him.  At the time, i had a couple of trucks and a motorcycle.  i loaded all of my heavy equipment and my hand tools into the pickup truck and headed north.  I started the job and left for home Sunday evening, leaving my mixing tubs and mud pans, along with shovels and mixing tools up in Vermont. 

The following weekend, and for several weekends to follow, I would load my tool bag and a bucket full of stone tools, sleeping bag, duffel bag with extra work clothes and some extras for my Saturday excursion into Bennington, all onto the back of my motorcycle and head back north to the hills.  Sticking out behind the bike was my four foot level with a big red flag tied onto it.  The load was so heavy, that the first nite i headed to the job, I was riding up the hill to the job in pouring rain at 2 am in the morning.  As I neared the top of the hill, the bike was about to stall, I started to spin as I twisted the throttle.  As the rear wheel grabbed into the mud, the front wheel rose for the sky and over I went, tools and bike were in all directions.  somehow, nothing ended up on top of me.  The owner (the plumber) had heard my bike climbing the hill and happened to look out thru the side of the house (still open , but it did have a roof) and happened to see the bike go over.  He came out to help and since I was ok, we both stood there laughing in the pouring rain.  I was ok with great protection from my raingear, but he managed to get soaked.  He often talked, and laughed, about that nite for many years afterward.
I finished that job on a weekend when it snowed about 12 inches.  I would go to the foot of his hill on Sunday afternooon and jump into the freezing brook to get cleaned up before heading south.  My friend was laughing that I would not go into the brook in that snow storm.  He often told his friends about that one also.  he could not believe that I actually did it.  It was quite a ride that nite with the snow coming down and the load of tools on the back of the bike.  By the time I got to Pittsfield, the snow stopped and i had a good ride the rest of the way home.
Yeah! When the work is there, you drive what you need to drive.  You also gotta have a little fun along the way.
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« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2011, 04:54 PM »

Tinker, love your stories. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2011, 05:05 PM »

Great stories Tinker from what, I expect, has been a great life!
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« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2011, 05:13 PM »

Yea, cool stories Tinker, more please  Big Grin
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« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2011, 04:39 AM »

Tinker story was really cool. Thank Almighty it didn't end up tragic but... what the heck you live once!!
My two pence to topic.
I drive MPV - Seat Alhambra - I can take all seats apart first row (passanger and driver) and then it turns into quite spacious van. I never had a problem that I had to leave some tools behind coz they didn't fit in.
I can't afford having van - maintenance costs are just too high. If I need to get something heavy then I just take my bro in law's Nissan Patrol and hook up big trailer (3.5T capacity) and I can go anywhere.
During weekends my 'van' turns into family car as I have 9mths old son and 6yrs old daughter plus wife plus plenty of gear for wee ones and shopping on top of that - Sometimes with family I'm packed more than with tools!!
Recently I mainly drive my bro's 4x4 as roads in Scotland are not so great and simply any van or car would be wrecked in no time.
And at the end I dun care what ppl drive as long they have all they need for a job and do job efficiently - to me you can have even riksha or skateboard if it's enough.
Rule is simple - no tools - no job, and that's all it matters.
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« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2011, 06:31 AM »

Great stories Tinker from what, I expect, has been a great life!

"...has been a great life!"   Not yet Frank  Grin

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