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« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2010, 08:42 AM » |
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Jmb it would have been open within 2 mins of landing on my doorstep regardless  |
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« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2010, 08:46 AM » |
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all in good time jmb, at the end of the day i dont have £700 to spend due to my wedding 2 month ago and 2 kids morga...........................
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« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2010, 08:50 AM » |
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what size systainer is it in?
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« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2010, 08:52 AM » |
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lol!
27 and kids! No way man not for me! People telling me I should get engaged with my girlfriend we have been together for 5 years! But I know what will happen! I wont b able to buy any more tools! Soon engaged Married then a dog to try and hold of on the kids! Dog wont be enough any more and still want kids! Then no more silly tool buying! I get told of now Im spending to much I keep saying its investment! Shes not going to love me when I have my workshop built! lol Buying all the Hammer gear and CNC machine lol!!
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« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2010, 08:52 AM » |
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what size systainer is it in?
Dura Drive is systainer 2 and the Sword is systainer 5 why?!?! |
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« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2010, 08:56 AM » |
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just visulising it in my van and how i would rearrage racking
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« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2010, 08:59 AM » |
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Jmb it would have been open within 2 mins of landing on my doorstep regardless I know I know I keep lookin at it through the lid lol! |
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« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2010, 09:00 AM » |
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just visulising it in my van and how i would rearrage racking
Haaa Haaa! I wanna get it out now and show some tease pictures lol!!! |
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« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2010, 09:10 AM » |
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I got it open! I my brother to pull the lid at the same time as I tried to pull the plastic up. It didnt cause any more damage to the box but my fingers got pinched a few times!
give me 10 just to take some pics! What do you wanna see Dean?!?!?!
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« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2010, 10:30 AM » |
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I got it open! I my brother to pull the lid at the same time as I tried to pull the plastic up. It didnt cause any more damage to the box but my fingers got pinched a few times!
give me 10 just to take some pics! What do you wanna see Dean?!?!?!
JMB
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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2010, 12:52 PM » |
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Well first off! Silly me I should of opened the Protool chain box! As its in a Oregon bag Warren (BUNNY BOLTS) told me lol!
Well he called me first thing this morning! Which is very good! He said I had two options! One sends me a new systainer first then has the hold picked up or has the old picked up 2moro and sends a new one right away but ill be with out a systainer for a bit. but I found out on the Protool web site that they do a 18V Dura Drive so I asked if I could have the 12V Dura Drive sent back in the systainer and have the 18V Dura drive instead and he said no problem.
So really pleased that the problem was solved quickly!
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« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2010, 12:52 PM » |
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Just this second got another call of Warren (BUNNY BOLTS)!! He has ordered the 18V so should hopefully get that weeks time! He did mention the 18V had a lower RPM 2500 and the 12V is 4000RPM. 2500RPM is better for driving in wood screws.
Does any one know the benefits of having one at 4000RPM and the other at 2500RPM I know the lower RPM will have a trogue increase put also it being 18V would of increased the torgue so why lower the rpm?!?!?
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« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2010, 01:30 PM » |
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low torque high speed is whats needed for drywall screws typically into metal stud work where as i would say the 18v is a tek gun which require higher torque but lower speed
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« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2010, 01:45 PM » |
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I would guess the higher rpm is to overcome the lower torque of the 12v unit
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« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2010, 01:51 PM » |
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low torque high speed is whats needed for drywall screws typically into metal stud work where as i would say the 18v is a tek gun which require higher torque but lower speed
I kinda thought the higher speed was for metal! Which is good to hear as I am having the 12v 4000 RPM swapped for the 18V 2500 RPM for about 50 quid more should be coming weeks time and I dont work with alot of metal stud. Just wondered why they lowered it as its the same drill or should I say its made for fixing plasterboard to studing. I mainly fix plasterboard to ply and 4x2 softwood some times oak! When its an old house with oak floor beams. Which the 18V should do better. JMB |
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« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2010, 01:54 PM » |
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I would guess the higher rpm is to overcome the lower torque of the 12v unit
Yeah but increasing RPM decreases torque ?! no?! So you increase the rpm to overcome lower torque but then your lowering the torque doing so lol you will end up with so much rpm with no torque no?! JMB |
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« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2010, 02:02 PM » |
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So making the decision getting the 18V is the right thing to do right?!?!?! Will this still screw into metal?! I only done about 10 meters of metal stud in my lift! So you see I dont use it much! It went round two corners the metal stud! We then fixed it with ply first to make it more solid and for fixing units so the platerboard just could be screwed any where ofcorse.
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« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2010, 02:05 PM » |
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to be honest i would look at the weight differance but only because it is for boarding and my shoulders are buggered
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« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2010, 02:45 PM » |
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I think I was talking to Warren! Does he talk really soft (quiet) and slow?!
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« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2010, 02:49 PM » |
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I think I was talking to Warren! Does he talk really soft (quiet) and slow?!
JMB
Yeeeeeeeessssss hhhheeee dddddoooooeeesssssssss nice chap LoL Yip thats him then! Is he a member on here?! I think he said he was not sure cant remember JMB |
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« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2010, 02:58 PM » |
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to be honest i would look at the weight differance but only because it is for boarding and my shoulders are buggered
Here is the weight difference 10.8V 1.7 kg with battery 1.9 kg Battery and Magazine 18V 1,9 kg With battery 2,1 kg Battery and Magazine So not much different! |
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« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2010, 03:02 PM » |
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I bet he isthere was a "toolfest" on here but based in the US so not him. Warren is pretty good but as im local sometimes they actually deliver some stuff in their own toolfest van vwt5. Last thing i bought was an empty mungo systainer 4 £30 bargain and it arrived next day and well packaged so cant complain. Only trouble i did have with them was getting messed around with a compressor i needed i looked at the tiny 1010 senco he sells but wanted something bigger to run a t-nailer , spoke to him on the phone and he said he had it in stock now drove 45 minutes to get it only to get told "oh it wont run a tnailer you need the next size up" but i asked that on the phone and he said yes it was big enough. so a bit ticked off but as you say hes a bit easy going slow talking so i just think thats the way he is. He does import some good tools that no one else seems to. Heres the compressor i might go for anyway sorry to change subject http://www.screwfix.com/prods/98404/Power-Tools/Compressors/Stanley-Bostitch-SCR008-10Ltr-Roll-Cage-Compressor-110V#i dont suppose I will be needing it for a few months anyway  |
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« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2010, 03:15 PM » |
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I bet he isthere was a "toolfest" on here but based in the US so not him. Warren is pretty good but as im local sometimes they actually deliver some stuff in their own toolfest van vwt5. Last thing i bought was an empty mungo systainer 4 £30 bargain and it arrived next day and well packaged so cant complain. Only trouble i did have with them was getting messed around with a compressor i needed i looked at the tiny 1010 senco he sells but wanted something bigger to run a t-nailer , spoke to him on the phone and he said he had it in stock now drove 45 minutes to get it only to get told "oh it wont run a tnailer you need the next size up" but i asked that on the phone and he said yes it was big enough. so a bit ticked off but as you say hes a bit easy going slow talking so i just think thats the way he is. He does import some good tools that no one else seems to. Heres the compressor i might go for anyway sorry to change subject http://www.screwfix.com/prods/98404/Power-Tools/Compressors/Stanley-Bostitch-SCR008-10Ltr-Roll-Cage-Compressor-110V#i dont suppose I will be needing it for a few months anyway Im well bad for changing subjects! Cant help it! I go on one! Why dont you go for a small schneider compressor JMB |
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« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2010, 03:34 PM » |
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I thought you folks in England spoke English.
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« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2010, 03:37 PM » |
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I thought you folks in England spoke English.
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« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2010, 03:44 PM » |
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« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2010, 06:17 PM » |
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A sander or hammer on a compressor will need 300+ L/Min. So if you intend to use such tools you should look for a bigger compressor.
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« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2010, 06:33 PM » |
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A sander or hammer on a compressor will need 300+ L/Min. So if you intend to use such tools you should look for a bigger compressor.
I think he said a nail gun. I don't think he will be using a hammer on a compressor. I Dont know about a sander but dont think he has a sander in mind! In the UK compressors arn't used that much! Workshops I have worked normally only use compressors for nail guns and an air blow gun. We defiantly don't use compressors on site much. So I think a small compressor is all he is looking for to run a nail gun. JMB |
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« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2010, 04:05 AM » |
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I use a compressor all the time on site. I have 2 bostich finish gun's, one a 15 gauge & the other an 18 gauge. I just don't like the thin nails on the cordless nailers, or are they now doing them with 15 gauge nails ? I too am looking for the smallest compressor i can get but will still run the 15 gauge. Sorry for jumping on the hijack JMB. Carry on  |
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
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« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2010, 05:28 AM » |
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That one at screwfix is a new model that no one else is selling yet very strange. I went to the D&M tool show saturday to cheer myself up and noticed the Bostitch guys had one they were using to demo nailers outside but it was in Stanley yellow not the orange and it wasnt for sale. When i quizzed the guy he said yeah its replacing the roll cage one they sell now it is a newer model. I also notice SIP sell the same compressor i suppose they are all made by some company in Italy.   |
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