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Offline ear3

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PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« on: November 29, 2017, 11:18 AM »
Turns out it takes years off your long life CT bag as well as your life.  Lesson learned.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 11:22 AM »
What happened, did you unintentionally suck up a lit cigarette butt with the vac?
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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 11:26 AM »
I put them out in an ashtray, but apparently part of the ember must have fallen to the ground where it got sucked up in the vac.  Didn't realize until I started to smell something odd and then noticed smoke coming from the Vac.


What happened, did you unintentionally suck up a lit cigarette butt with the vac?
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 11:31 AM »
Glad you caught it, could have been ugly if you had not noticed or left the shop for even 15 minutes.
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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 12:24 PM »
thats what I thought to, good thing you caught it could of got ugly fast
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Offline Arvid

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 01:01 PM »
switch to a pipe. i tossed the butts years ago and now just puff on a corn cob pipe. put it down let it die no ambers.

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 03:49 PM »
switch to a pipe. i tossed the butts years ago and now just puff on a corn cob pipe. put it down let it die no ambers.

Or Edward could just quit smoking completely. It is a nasty habit. And very unhealthy.
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Offline Gregor

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 06:32 PM »
Or Edward could just quit smoking completely. It is a nasty habit. And very unhealthy.
Or, in case he has a similar problem with nicotine addiction that I have, switch to vaping (which, while still delivering nicotine so at least I'm not that inclined to try some power tools on obnoxious people that get on my nerves repeatedly, isn't as bad).
Pro tip: in case you still crave cigarettes when vaping... try a fluid with higher nicotine content - worked for everyone I know that did the switch.

Offline aloysius

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 07:23 PM »
I had a mate with the clever idea to use a domestic vac to draw out all those nasty petrol fumes from a motorcycle's petrol tank he was fed to respray.  The consequences were spectacularly explosive:  vac in multiple pieces, & Marty bruised & singed all over!
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Offline SouthRider

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 08:07 PM »
When some smoke in the workshop they eat a lot of junk food and forget what they are doing...........
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Offline ear3

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 02:49 PM »
Thanks @Gregor The times I've tried vaping before I've just been left with this feeling like I haven't gotten enough nicotine, which then leads me to immediately light up a cigarette!

Or Edward could just quit smoking completely. It is a nasty habit. And very unhealthy.
Or, in case he has a similar problem with nicotine addiction that I have, switch to vaping (which, while still delivering nicotine so at least I'm not that inclined to try some power tools on obnoxious people that get on my nerves repeatedly, isn't as bad).
Pro tip: in case you still crave cigarettes when vaping... try a fluid with higher nicotine content - worked for everyone I know that did the switch.
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Offline Roseland

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2017, 03:39 PM »
And flammable dusts with an ignition source can be quite exciting:



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Offline ear3

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 08:07 AM »
Hmmm, I'm not sure, but I think Festool service might call this user error  ;D

And flammable dusts with an ignition source can be quite exciting:



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Offline Bob D.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 11:45 AM »
what I want to know is did the CT work after the 'test' :-)
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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2017, 04:46 AM »
what I want to know is did the CT work after the 'test' :-)
From the sound in the video: it didn't stop.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2017, 06:43 AM »
what I want to know is did the CT work after the 'test' :-)

Yes, it did and that is the last time I lend anyone any of my tools !

Aluminium dust is highly combustable. The laws here in the UK prevent me posting anything like a recipe but in my youth we used to make all sorts of home made explosives from stuff like that. I blame it on my chemistry master who would often liven things up with an explosion or two.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2017, 07:19 AM »
My first encounter with the police as a youth was after I started trying out some  recipies on my poor neighbors' mailboxes.



what I want to know is did the CT work after the 'test' :-)

Yes, it did and that is the last time I lend anyone any of my tools !

Aluminium dust is highly combustable. The laws here in the UK prevent me posting anything like a recipe but in my youth we used to make all sorts of home made explosives from stuff like that. I blame it on my chemistry master who would often liven things up with an explosion or two.

Peter
« Last Edit: December 02, 2017, 10:35 AM by SRSemenza »
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Offline Gregor

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2017, 09:23 AM »
My first encounter with the police as a youth was a couple of weeks after I got the Anarchist Cookbook and started trying out some of the recipies on my poor neighbors' mailboxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchist_Cookbook
As a warning about that specific pamphlet: some recipes in there are quite flawed - cooking these is very likely to kill you.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2017, 09:35 AM »
"Aluminum dust is highly combustible"

Yes, have to be careful when using a grinder, either hand held or bench top, on aluminum to use the correct type wheel and not mixing metals that a wheel is used for grinding on, i.e. don't grind both ferrous metals and aluminum on the same wheel.

Some interesting points brought up in this interpretation letter from OSHA in 2009 about aluminum and 'hot work'.

Here's one, read the full article for more.

Grinding aluminum also can create housekeeping issues. An aluminothermic reaction can occur in situations where there is an accumulation of powder or dust from the grinding operation. A shipyard environment typically contains metal oxide, in the form of rust, and a heat source, in the form of welding, cutting, brazing, or grinding. If enough aluminum powder is introduced, there is a potential for a significant aluminothermic reaction. In an Australian Department of Energy "lessons learned" article, "Fireball from Aluminum Grinding Dust," an individual received first- and second-degree bums on his hands and head from a fireball that developed while grinding a piece of angle iron a few days after another individual ground the heads off approximately twelve aluminum pop rivets. This type of accident may be prevented by employing good housekeeping habits in addition to using material-specific tools.

https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=27413
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Re: PSA - Guess what happens when you smoke in the workshop?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2017, 07:40 PM »
It is important to realise that this is aluminium dust that is the risk factor. When sawing aluminium there is very little dust and 99.9% of what comes off is chippings.

Peter