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Online Svar

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2018, 05:21 PM »
It has never been a secret that the motor was Mafell. 
No, the question was whether MT55 and GKT55 have identical motors.

Here is more food for thought.
Mafell:  https://www.mtmc.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductID=106076&strReferer=search&PPGR=0
Bosch:  https://www.mtmc.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductID=92035&strReferer=search&PPGR=0

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2018, 05:22 PM »
This is interesting. Now, MT55 owners, your turn.

Yes...now to see what the Cuprex motor looks like.       

Also duly noted, 50/60 Hz.

Offline McNally Family

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2018, 05:36 PM »
For the good of the order, I took the motor cover off the Bosch.  Wasn’t willing to go much further, but here’s what’s under the first layer.  (Attachment Link)

Let the wild speculation begin...

I also wonder what the Kolektor relationship to Mafell is;

http://www.kolektor.com/en
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Offline TinyShop

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2018, 06:10 PM »
This is interesting. Now, MT55 owners, your turn.

Yes...now to see what the Cuprex motor looks like.       

Also duly noted, 50/60 Hz.

It's a 120V machine. Why wouldn't it also be 60Hz?

Look, the issue (at least the one I have) is with Mafell's 230V machines. Perhaps I put too much stock in what it says on a motor nameplate but the last thing I would do (without some written assurance from the applicable manufacturer or retailer that it was OK to do so) is supply a 230V/50Hz motor with 240V/60Hz (just like how I'd ever put petrol in a diesel car). I'm still waiting for Mafell and/or TT to provide (or one of it's customers to pass along) something (anything!) in writing that says it is OK to overlook the info stamped on a motor nameplate. Until this happens, I (and I think all of us) have to assume the worst.

I'd love to be proven wrong here. Toward that end, I am hoping that someone will post a photo of a 230V Mafell machine sold in N.A. (preferably an Erika) that features a stock motor with a nameplate that reads "230V-240V/50-60Hz". This would at least prove that the latest generation of machines destined for N.A. have been appropriately modified to accept the peculiarities of our electrical system. It wouldn't, however, effect the outstanding matter of all of the machines that have nameplates that read "230V/50Hz."
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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2018, 06:25 PM »
I’ll check my 230v Erika 85 that I imported from Germany and have been using with zero issues for 2 years tomorrow.

Online Svar

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2018, 07:54 PM »
I’ll check my 230v Erika 85 that I imported from Germany and have been using with zero issues for 2 years tomorrow.
Please, do.
Also, the sticker on Dane's picture is on speed control unit rather on the motor itself. The unit appears to be made by Kolektor, an engineering group.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 07:59 PM by Svar »

Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2018, 02:06 PM »
Here you are.

Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2018, 04:47 PM »
Just read through your comments and it seems you were hoping the plate read 60hz. This is a saw I imported from Germany and have run here on our grid for the last 3 years. Haven’t had a single issue and I’ve run it off electrical panels, temp panels, generators you name it. I made a Neutrik cord for it and cut the German cord end. Since it’s a double insulated motor you just take the two hots and wire them into a 220v breaker in the panel. I seriously beat the sh*t out of this saw and it hasn’t hiccuped once. Hope that helps.

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2018, 05:41 PM »
Thank you @rizzoa13 for taking the time. It is helpful information in case I want to import something.

Offline altiplano

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2018, 12:43 AM »
You guys should have just compared the parts schematics for the saws.

I imported a 110v/50hz MT55 from the UK.

The only parts that were listed different on a side by side comparison of the schematic vs. the NA 120v/60hz model were the cord and the plate.

Everything else exact same.

2 years and still running like the day it came.

Offline JimH2

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Re: Timberwolf Tools
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2018, 11:29 PM »
Once you go Red, you won't go back.  I do not believe Festool works on Fafel tracks.

Correct Festool saws do not work on Mafell tracks, however the reverse is true. The Mafell rail system is better than Festool's so you probably will want to to switch systems. I did, but kept a few Festool rails for routing.