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« on: October 10, 2011, 10:05 PM » |
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ugh, truck broken into tonight stole almost everything...upside, they didn't steal any of the festools. Funny, like I heard someone else say in the forums...I don't think they know it is. sigh, I hate thieves
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 10:15 PM » |
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That's totally sad, and maddening...
I had my house cleaned out during a 2-week business trip a few years ago.
I didn't even have a phone to call the Police and this was before cell phones were smaller than a bread box. It is a horrible feeling but in the end, you will realize that it is just stuff and they were likely just punks.
My condolences,
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 10:19 PM » |
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I feel for ya. I had my shed broken in to this last January. They took a ton of power tools, nail guns and lawn gear. Took and month to replace every thing. Luckily I have a replacement insurance policy. So I go a bunch of NEW tools.
but like you none of the Festool stuff was taken, Mine was locked in the garage.
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I work for a company that makes GPS chips. Often thought of taking some of our defunct trackers and pop them inside some power tool boxes. Sure, can't track all the tools, but if they took just one with a tracker... Curiously, the boxes for the trackers look a lot like those stud finders at the big box 
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I work for a company that makes GPS chips. Often thought of taking some of our defunct trackers and pop them inside some power tool boxes. Sure, can't track all the tools, but if they took just one with a tracker... Curiously, the boxes for the trackers look a lot like those stud finders at the big box  Are they small enough to put in the tools themselves? That would be cool, with a small power cell inside too. Automatically charges as you use the tool...
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 12:00 PM » |
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I work for a company that makes GPS chips. Often thought of taking some of our defunct trackers and pop them inside some power tool boxes. Sure, can't track all the tools, but if they took just one with a tracker... Curiously, the boxes for the trackers look a lot like those stud finders at the big box  Are they small enough to put in the tools themselves? That would be cool, with a small power cell inside too. Automatically charges as you use the tool... With a remote tool shut down feature  Seth
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 01:53 PM » |
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It happens. That is why I have 30k of replacement tool coverage on my GL policy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 02:12 PM » |
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I work for a company that makes GPS chips. Often thought of taking some of our defunct trackers and pop them inside some power tool boxes. Sure, can't track all the tools, but if they took just one with a tracker... Curiously, the boxes for the trackers look a lot like those stud finders at the big box  Are they small enough to put in the tools themselves? That would be cool, with a small power cell inside too. Automatically charges as you use the tool... With a remote tool shut down feature  Seth Yup, like 2oz of PE4! 
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 03:07 PM » |
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I work for a company that makes GPS chips. Often thought of taking some of our defunct trackers and pop them inside some power tool boxes. Sure, can't track all the tools, but if they took just one with a tracker... Curiously, the boxes for the trackers look a lot like those stud finders at the big box  So it's your fault that those darn things send people around in a circle and tell me to make the turn 3 feet after I passed it!  I'm onto you, Paul-Marcel. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 03:29 PM » |
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So it's your fault that those darn things send people around in a circle and tell me to make the turn 3 feet after I passed it!  I'm onto you, Paul-Marcel.  Recalculating... (secretly, we call that Ken mode  )
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 03:34 PM » |
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So it's your fault that those darn things send people around in a circle and tell me to make the turn 3 feet after I passed it!  I'm onto you, Paul-Marcel.  Recalculating... (secretly, we call that Ken mode  ) I bet that you're tracking me tracking you. Well, I'll just go in a circle then or maybe throw in a couple of zig zags. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 03:37 PM » |
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So which vendor wants all my money? Planning on just going Amazon, as I have a promotional prime membership... Well, looks like I'll be picking up a few festool sanders to boot too. You can expect an email soon Bob :/ I'm thinking of branding all my tools from now on  . Not that that will do all that much
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 03:39 PM » |
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So which vendor wants all my money? Planning on just going Amazon, as I have a promotional prime membership...
Well, looks like I'll be picking up a few festool sanders to boot too. You can expect an email soon Bob :/
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I'm thinking of branding all my tools from now on  . Not that that will do all that much Personally, I would not brand my power tools, as this would affect the resale value on ebay. I don't spray or engrave my tools for this reason. You would be surprised what people will pay for good quality second hand Festools on ebay. Very sorry to hear about anyone getting their tools stolen. The thieves obviously do not care that we work hard to buy these possession's. You are very lucky they did not take your Festools! Justin.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 05:11 PM » |
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Yeah, I used to think that too...but I've noticed I never sell my tools. I end up just holding onto them as backups
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When i got my van and looked at the price of all the tools in it i thought i better add some decent security.. I fitted a steel bulkhead, bolted a van-vault to the floor, added expensive locks on side and back doors, fitted another alarm and immobiliser (inc a sensor incase it gets banged or rocked) and also fitted a text alert to the alarm system. I also don't have any sign writing on the van to advertise i have tools in there.. ( i was thinking of adding a sign saying toxic waste and asbestos removal  ) That might put the thieving t***s off..... John..
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 06:40 PM » |
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It happens. That is why I have 30k of replacement tool coverage on my GL policy.
Keyword REPLACEMENT cost
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It would be interesting to know how many contractors here carry that type of insurance. When I started out the premiums over the span of five years would pay for the tools. That coverage would have been more expensive than my gl policy. I haven't checked lately with my carrier, but I only carry a token amunt that is automatically included in my gl policy.
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2011, 07:32 PM » |
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It would be interesting to know how many contractors here carry that type of insurance. When I started out the premiums over the span of five years would pay for the tools. That coverage would have been more expensive than my gl policy. I haven't checked lately with my carrier, but I only carry a token amunt that is automatically included in my gl policy.
Peter
I have a $10,000 tools recovery on my policy.And it did not cost that much more.
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I've had my trucks broken into so many times over the years I lost count a long time ago. Looked into a policy and it cost about the same as replacing the tools. Tool replacement from loss averaged about $2000 annually when I was on jobsites full time. No idea what a policy would cost now. Since I spend very little time on urban jobsites these days it isn't a big issue anymore for me. I don't leave squat in my truck though either. Load and unload religiously. Sorry to hear about your loss. I know the feeling all too well.
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Sorry to hear of your break-in. I've been robbed, and it sucks! Good luck dealing with the insurance company. The way some of them are, it can feel like you've been violated a second time.  And watch out for second helpings. Some thieves will target the same victim a second time knowing that all the stuff has just been recently replaced. Don't leave your security the way it is. A second theft and your insurance company may dump you like a hot potato after paying out the second claim, or raise your premiums to the moon. An interesting aside related to someone mentioning GPS trackers. A friend of mine was telling me how he had a couple of work buddies who bought a couple of gas fireplaces real cheap that "fell off a truck". One of them went and installed it, and shortly thereafter had the cops knocking on his door. Apparently, they have trackers in those likely if they were scooped off of construction sites I assume. The two had to cough up who they bought it off of, and relinquish their fireplaces, but did not face any charges, although I think myself they should have.
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I've had my trucks broken into so many times over the years I lost count a long time ago. Looked into a policy and it cost about the same as replacing the tools. Tool replacement from loss averaged about $2000 annually when I was on jobsites full time. No idea what a policy would cost now. Since I spend very little time on urban jobsites these days it isn't a big issue anymore for me. I don't leave squat in my truck though either. Load and unload religiously. Sorry to hear about your loss. I know the feeling all too well.
Is that insurance premium? Or tools replacement?
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 09:45 PM » |
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I was going say WOW! That's a lot of money for insurance! I'm always careful with my tools.I park as far as i can go on my driveway and i have installed motion detection lights. When the lights comes on,my dogs goes crazy and barks really loud.How's that for an alarm! A few years back,before the dogs and lights,i had my truck broke into,but did not take much.My trailer got hit too.But at the time i was not using it and there was nothing of value in it.
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When you buy insurance, be sure that you understand the difference between "replacement cost" and "actual cash value". It will make a difference on your premiums. Many people buy "actual cash value" assuming that it means what it will cost to buy the same thing again, but it's really a depreciated value that saves the insurance company money and costs the consumer more after the loss. Be sure to ask for "replacement cost" insurance which covers everything, and not a depreciated value.
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When you buy insurance, be sure that you understand the difference between "replacement cost" and "actual cash value". It will make a difference on your premiums. Many people buy "actual cash value" assuming that it means what it will cost to buy the same thing again, but it's really a depreciated value that saves the insurance company money and costs the consumer more after the loss. Be sure to ask for "replacement cost" insurance which covers everything, and not a depreciated value. I do understand it,but if i loose everything,i still get $10,000 to go get what i need.
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I do understand it,but if i loose everything,i still get $10,000 to go get what i need.
You must replace with a similar tool if the exact model is not available. You can not have a drill stolen and replace it with a router. My insurance required a list of every thing that was stolen, with the model number, make, estimated purchase price, date of purchase and estimated replacement cost. Then they write a check for the depreciated cash value. At that point you have up to 12 months to buy the replacement and turn in the receipt to get the difference between the insurance cash value and the value on the receipt. I went out and made sure the estimated replacement amount was the exact price of the item on the shelf at the store or on-line retailer that i was going to buy. Also made sure the retailer had a good return policy so I could adjust my purchases after I got the full replacment value from the insurance.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2011, 04:58 PM » |
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That's totally sad, and maddening...
I had my house cleaned out during a 2-week business trip a few years ago.
I didn't even have a phone to call the Police and this was before cell phones were smaller than a bread box. It is a horrible feeling but in the end, you will realize that it is just stuff and they were likely just punks.
My condolences,
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GreenMonster, so sorry to hear. It's a crushing feeling - very sobering. Tom, I had my house broken into last November. Turned my room upside down. Took about $80 worth of change that was sitting on my dresser and not a cent more of anything else. They destroyed every room that they went into. Things like this really make you take a step back. It's just utterly shocking, the capacity that people have, to do some really terrible things. It's amazing what sheltered lives (at least myself) we live when I consider how something as simple as a residential burglary makes me feel / effects me. It truly is nothing in the scheme of things that occurs on a daily basis throughout the world.
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I do understand it,but if i loose everything,i still get $10,000 to go get what i need.
You must replace with a similar tool if the exact model is not available. You can not have a drill stolen and replace it with a router. My insurance required a list of every thing that was stolen, with the model number, make, estimated purchase price, date of purchase and estimated replacement cost. Then they write a check for the depreciated cash value. At that point you have up to 12 months to buy the replacement and turn in the receipt to get the difference between the insurance cash value and the value on the receipt. I went out and made sure the estimated replacement amount was the exact price of the item on the shelf at the store or on-line retailer that i was going to buy. Also made sure the retailer had a good return policy so I could adjust my purchases after I got the full replacment value from the insurance. It must be very different in the west,because here they just need to know what it's going to cost to replace what you lost. Insurance does not require any information of the tools.You do need to have a police report that shows what tools was stolen. $10,000 worth of tools is what it is.doesn't matter if it buys me 3 tools or 20 tools it's $10,000. How do they know what was in your truck?How do they know what you added since you got your policy? It doesn't matter,it is what is going to cost to replace the tools.
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That's totally sad, and maddening...
I had my house cleaned out during a 2-week business trip a few years ago.
I didn't even have a phone to call the Police and this was before cell phones were smaller than a bread box. It is a horrible feeling but in the end, you will realize that it is just stuff and they were likely just punks.
My condolences,
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GreenMonster, so sorry to hear. It's a crushing feeling - very sobering. Tom, I had my house broken into last November. Turned my room upside down. Took about $80 worth of change that was sitting on my dresser and not a cent more of anything else. They destroyed every room that they went into. Things like this really make you take a step back. It's just utterly shocking, the capacity that people have, to do some really terrible things. It's amazing what sheltered lives (at least myself) we live when I consider how something as simple as a residential burglary makes me feel / effects me. It truly is nothing in the scheme of things that occurs on a daily basis throughout the world. I still have the odd bad dream that I'm living where I was robbed 15 years ago and in my dream I'm either about to be robbed and I know it, or my doors are compromised and thieves are lurking waiting to rob me. Don't laugh, I just had one a couple of weeks ago. You wake up upset and think about it all day even if you did go back to sleep. They used to give the death sentence if you stole a man's horse. Nowadays the punishment for thievery/burglary is a slap on the wrist IF they ever get caught. Curse all those criminals.  Hope they rot in heck. 
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