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Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2016, 06:45 PM »
Well, I can show you what I'm fed up with when I hire a pro, pictures from Friday, heavily altered to make sure the workers can't be identified - but it gets the message across, anyway. And yes, that's a Mafell he's using......... And of course he wasn't wearing any PPE...

And no, these are no cheap "know it all - do it all"-for-hire-guys - it's two carpenters from a highly respected and spoken of carpenter's shop - I guess at this point it WAS highly respected and well spoken of...

'nuff said.



Just for clarification on the second picture: if someone hadn't stepped on the board, he would have tried to make the cut without any form of fixation/counter weight



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Oliver

I take it they forgot sawhorses,  they did what they had to do.  Not sure if they did anything wrong, they improvised with what they had available.  As far as PPE, many professionals don't wear Personal Protective Equipment.  Not saying its right, but you cant judge them on their work for the gear they wear or not wear.  I have to admit I don't wear the proper PPE at all times.   

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2016, 06:53 PM »
What was the finished job like?

Doug

Hi,

Right now I'd say acceptable - but it's not finished yet. The good part is that the edge they cut like that is invisible, and the angled cuts from the second pictures: let's just say caulking and paint were their friends...

The finished work will be OK overall I'm pretty sure at the moment, but workmanship, overall way of execution well below what I expected from this company and also well below what they charge.

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Oliver

Offline Holmz

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2016, 06:57 PM »
I am surprised you did not do it yourself.

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2016, 07:21 PM »
I take it they forgot sawhorses,  they did what they had to do.  Not sure if they did anything wrong, they improvised with what they had available.  As far as PPE, many professionals don't wear Personal Protective Equipment.  Not saying its right, but you cant judge them on their work for the gear they wear or not wear.  I have to admit I don't wear the proper PPE at all times.   

Hi!

I originally didn't want to go into all the boring details: when I saw what they wanted/ were about to do, I of course offered them to fetch my saw horses within a matter of minutes - they declined.

I don't judge their work by what PPE they wear or not, or how/if they improvise - it just fit the overall picture I have gotten over time.

Probably I'm much to pedantic when it comes to this type of stuff and generally expect to much. Maybe my/a mistake.

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Oliver
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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2016, 07:22 PM »
I am surprised you did not do it yourself.

Hi!

Not this time, time is running to fast for me at the moment, I sadly have other stuff I need to take care of.

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Oliver

Offline jimbo51

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2016, 09:14 PM »
How about  storm door install where a 4 1/2 inch grinder is used to trim the door flanges and to cut some wood off the door frame? I might suggest a track saw and a multi tool...

And where a paint 5 in 1 tool is used as a wood chisel?

The job ended ok because of the flange and caulk covering most issues, but I was not really impressed by the level of professionalism.

Offline duburban

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2016, 09:17 PM »
If I took the time to get setup just right, I might already be over budget for some projects.
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

Offline Cheese

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Re: What do you look for in a carpenter?
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2016, 12:30 AM »
Wow...all of these horror stories make me realize why I take care of business myself. When that happens, no one left to blame and no one left to congratulate...it is what it is and you're responsible for it...the buck stops here.