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Offline McNally Family

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Re: A Few Questions -- Planes and chisels
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2017, 08:39 AM »
I think that as anyone moves into hand planes or chisels, the first priority is sharpening. 

A few chisels and a selection of good stones is more useful than a set of the finest chisels and no way of sharpening them ..

Good chisels hold an edge longer than cheap ones.  Often an a whole bunch longer.   

I would suggest you obtain a 1000 x 4000 x 8000 set of stones at the bare minimum and spend as much time as possible sitting in front of the TV practising sharpening.   Truly sharp hand tools are amazing to use..  They take woodworking to the next level .. 

On the planes..  I have 6 x Veritas planes and a couple Lie Nielsen.  Quality of both is outstanding ..  Lee Valley tends to be a bit more advanced, Lie Nielsen are stunningly beautiful and absolute top quality.   There is no bad choice.


This is a rather old thread (2013), but it really hits the nail on the head when it comes to the path I am currently on.  Having just finished purchasing the essentials of the Shapton sharpening system, I am now looking to purchase a decent set of chisels, and then hand planes.  I did not want to go any further until I had a system in place to sharpen hand tools, as nothing is worse than a dull edge while woodworking.    While I make my chisel and hand plane choices, I am busy refining my sharpening skills on our kitchen cutlery, which which was in desperate need of sharpening. 
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Offline ear3

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Re: A Few Questions -- Planes and chisels
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2017, 09:01 PM »
Good luck!

Reading over this thread, i feel grateful that people on the FOG took time to answer the almost exact same set of entry level hand plane questions I posted over the past year, despite many of the same people having already posted essentially the same answers in this thread.
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: A Few Questions -- Planes and chisels
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2017, 02:17 AM »
...   While I make my chisel and hand plane choices, I am busy refining my sharpening skills on our kitchen cutlery, which which was in desperate need of sharpening.

Points with the cook for sure :).  If you do the cooking, it is oddly self-serving.

Offline derekcohen

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Re: A Few Questions -- Planes and chisels
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2017, 08:06 PM »
Reading through this thread, if I had been present to reply to the OP, I would have advised him to design something to build before buying more tools. He was more focussed on buying the perfect tool without understanding what make it so. Plus he had more than sufficient tools, but was afraid of using them in case they were damaged!

My advice to those starting out with handtools is to purchase adequate but not excellent chisels. Learn to sharpen them, discover what will damage them, master the techniques of use ... and then buy the chisels of your dreams. For example, a small set of Narex is a far better incentive to dive in than a set of Blue Spruce, which look great in the cabinet (BS are excellent chisels, by the way).

This is not a rail at premium tools - I own and use them - but a recognition that many newbies want to start out with a full tool chest of the best, which is fine if all you plan to do is look at them. They are not the tools to learn on.

Regards from Perth

Derek


Offline ear3

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Re: A Few Questions -- Planes and chisels
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2017, 06:39 AM »
Good advice, especially about the damaging part.  I was chopping out a mortise on a board last year, and wasn't paying close enough attention when I hit a screw (with not one but two mallet strikes) and chipped the heck out of the edge on my chisel (i wasn't making furniture -- rather the board was recycled from my lumber pile for a utilitarian purpose).  Fortunately it was just a Narex, otherwise I would have broke down crying.  And after an hour with the coarse diamond stone I had learned how to restore a damaged edge!

Reading through this thread, if I had been present to reply to the OP, I would have advised him to design something to build before buying more tools. He was more focussed on buying the perfect tool without understanding what make it so. Plus he had more than sufficient tools, but was afraid of using them in case they were damaged!

My advice to those starting out with handtools is to purchase adequate but not excellent chisels. Learn to sharpen them, discover what will damage them, master the techniques of use ... and then buy the chisels of your dreams. For example, a small set of Narex is a far better incentive to dive in than a set of Blue Spruce, which look great in the cabinet (BS are excellent chisels, by the way).

This is not a rail at premium tools - I own and use them - but a recognition that many newbies want to start out with a full tool chest of the best, which is fine if all you plan to do is look at them. They are not the tools to learn on.

Regards from Perth

Derek
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