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Offline jacko9

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2012, 12:09 PM »
This is my go to Spokeshave.  I kinda remember having to do a little fitting of the blade bed when I first bought this tool and it has been heavily used (and abused) for many years making table legs, smoothing over bandsawn edges, etc. but, it still cuts vibration free smoothly every time.  The blade is almost 1/4" thick and hollow ground on the back.  It's a bi-metal forged blade that holds its edge a very long time.
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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2012, 12:47 PM »
I don't mean this as a put down at all, but I wouldn't wait for a project to start practicing with those draw knives.  They are great tools, but you have to master subtle techniques.  That same blade can hog out huge wedges of wood or make gossamer shavings, depending on exactly how you approach the wood.  I don't use them that often and I always benefit from half a hour of playing around to regain the muscle memory.

I might take it as a put down if I found that you are a master such as Chris Wong otherwise I take it as advice.

Jack09, What a wonderful Japanese tool -- I notice it's a style that doesn't accept a wooden wedge to fix the iron but rather a precisely fitted pocket.  I can see why it probably makes your other spoke shaves continue to rest unused on the shelf.

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2012, 01:46 PM »
I don't mean this as a put down at all, but I wouldn't wait for a project to start practicing with those draw knives.  They are great tools, but you have to master subtle techniques.  That same blade can hog out huge wedges of wood or make gossamer shavings, depending on exactly how you approach the wood.  I don't use them that often and I always benefit from half a hour of playing around to regain the muscle memory.

I might take it as a put down if I found that you are a master such as Chris Wong otherwise I take it as advice.

Jack09, What a wonderful Japanese tool -- I notice it's a style that doesn't accept a wooden wedge to fix the iron but rather a precisely fitted pocket.  I can see why it probably makes your other spoke shaves continue to rest unused on the shelf.

Ron,

The blade fits into the body with a slight tap on the top and you can adjust the cut pretty finely.  When you want to remove the blade put your thumb on the blade and tap the back until it releases.

After years of frustration with some of my wooden Japanese hand planes I got into a conversation with one of the old timers at Japan Woodworker and he told me that on the cap irons on the Japanese hand planes were installed only for export market.  After I took off all of the cap irons my hand planes performed perfectly.

Jack

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2012, 01:54 PM »
Earlier in this thread the request for sharpening was made.  I use a wooden jig to hold the blade like the one on page 7 of the instructions for LV LA SS instructions

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2012, 02:28 PM »
I might take it as a put down if I found that you are a master such as Chris Wong otherwise I take it as advice.

Me?  A master?
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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2012, 02:41 PM »
I might take it as a put down if I found that you are a master such as Chris Wong otherwise I take it as advice.

Me?  A master?

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2016, 11:47 AM »
Just wondering if anyone has additional thoughts on spokeshaves, particularly LN vs. LV.  I like the idea of the larger mouth opening and wider blade on the LV, as it would allow more aggressive shaping of curves.  But the brass body of the LN gives more heft to the tool and would cut down on chatter.
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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2016, 04:19 PM »
Just wondering if anyone has additional thoughts on spokeshaves, particularly LN vs. LV.  I like the idea of the larger mouth opening and wider blade on the LV, as it would allow more aggressive shaping of curves.  But the brass body of the LN gives more heft to the tool and would cut down on chatter.
. Another subjective hand tool, much like hand planes as you've found out in your 7/8 thread.... [wink]
As always, if you can , put one in your hands and make some shavings with it. If it pleases your hands, that's a good start.
I do love my LN spokeshaves, but there are others out there .
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2016, 04:20 PM »
Just wondering if anyone has additional thoughts on spokeshaves, particularly LN vs. LV.  I like the idea of the larger mouth opening and wider blade on the LV, as it would allow more aggressive shaping of curves.  But the brass body of the LN gives more heft to the tool and would cut down on chatter.

Not sure which LV spokeshave you are looking at.  I like the adjustors on the ones I have.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2016, 04:40 PM »
Edward - the LN Boggs and the Veritas spoke shaves both weigh around 12 ounces.

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2016, 05:42 PM »
The weight of the tool won't affect chatter- it's a light tool whatever its material. I have a couple of LV spokeshaves and I keep the mouth wide open at all times.

If you want a smooth cut with a spokeshave, I've found that using the tool in the right grain direction, making sure the blade is extremely sharp and skewing the tool in the cut where necessary are the three most important factors behind a good cut.

I don't follow your point on the mouth size and blade width tackling a small radius. If the curve is very tight, even a convex spokeshave may not be enough to get round the curve. I reach for the rasps at this point.

You may also want to grab a drawknife. I use it more often than a spokeshave to be honest.


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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2016, 06:02 PM »
Hi
 An interesting thread and all will feel different to each other. In the image are my collection of spokeshaves - the two black are early Stanley with flat and round bases and these have served me well for many years. The small wooden one is great for making miniatures or taking the arris of an edge.......a great tool is the Spokeshave so long as the grain behaves  [wink]
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Offline ear3

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2016, 11:16 AM »
I assume wider mouth opening = possibility of thicker shavings.

The weight of the tool won't affect chatter- it's a light tool whatever its material. I have a couple of LV spokeshaves and I keep the mouth wide open at all times.

If you want a smooth cut with a spokeshave, I've found that using the tool in the right grain direction, making sure the blade is extremely sharp and skewing the tool in the cut where necessary are the three most important factors behind a good cut.

I don't follow your point on the mouth size and blade width tackling a small radius. If the curve is very tight, even a convex spokeshave may not be enough to get round the curve. I reach for the rasps at this point.

You may also want to grab a drawknife. I use it more often than a spokeshave to be honest.
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Offline Lbob131

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2016, 05:46 PM »
I have a set of Veritas  spokeshaves.
The rounded base   one is very  useful for scalloping   corners    to give  that hand hewn  look.

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Re: How do I pick a Spokeshave?
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2016, 05:54 PM »
I ended up getting the Veritas.  Just the flat and rounded base, but not the concave.  I don't plan on shaping any chair parts or oars in the near future, and figure I can add it in when I actually have a need.  The set discount was only about $20, plus the free tool roll.

I have a set of Veritas  spokeshaves.
The rounded base   one is very  useful for scalloping   corners    to give  that hand hewn  look.
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