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Offline PaulMarcel

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How do you store your files/rasps?
« on: June 09, 2012, 10:46 PM »
I have a drawer with soft grippy lining I use currently to store files and rasps.  Storing them flat like that takes a lot of space since you don't use any of the vertical :)

How are you guys storing your rasps/files?  I'm thinking of getting a tool roll since it would take less space and ultimately be easier to take to the wood.  Problem is most 'n pocket' tool rolls have the pockets directly across from each other, meaning you really only get n/2 pockets.  They should be offset.  For rasps and files, the pockets would need to be a bit bigger not so much for the rasp/file but for clearance so they don't bang into each other.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 10:53 PM »
Paul-Marcel,

I got my canvas tool roll from Woodcraft.  Got the largest and most pockets they offered.  Works well for me.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 11:56 PM »
ya I got a Kuny's tool roll for my chisels. not happy with it for the reasons you stated. There's got to be something more expensive i can invest in, as i tend to like doing that

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 12:28 AM »
Mine are awkward to get at in a toolbox. They're also not the most loved items ... I need to sort them and find a better place.

Would a knife block arrangement work for some?


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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 01:45 AM »
I'll give the Woodcraft roll a try; going there tomorrow as it is.

A catch with some of the rasps is the length; some very long ones although I got some plastic square tubes for those so they can be piled in the drawer.  Right now it's mostly the files and small rat-tails that need a home.

I saw the Kuny on LV's site tonight (free shipping week!) and passed on it due to the aligned pockets.  I'm not sure how someone makes a tool roll and doesn't notice that problem...
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 03:05 AM »
Just snooping about - alway like to peek at workshop setups ...

http://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Shop-Stuff/5539691_KTNJHJ/1162344771_UtbGf#!i=1155640936&k=UB2sP

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 03:52 AM »
Nice link, Kev...

Something like that will work in that drawer to better store some of the files.  Might grab some scrap and make the two bars tomorrow; may like that better than a tool roll
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 06:21 AM »
I store my rasps and files in a box in a single layer with the handles carefully alternating directions to keep the cutting parts separated.  For my carving gouges, I like this tool roll.  I'm considering getting one for my files/rasps too.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 10:16 AM »
Paul-Marcel

I took an old pair of blue jeans and used the denim from one leg to create a roll.  Made a roll about 20" wide and about 10" deep.

Sewed across the denim to form pockets to match each file and then rolled it up and use a rubber band to hold it closed.

Been in use for 20 years and works great. Custom fit, no cost.

Of course, my wife had a sewing machine which made it easy.

Needless to say, the one legged jeans were disposed of!  ;D

Just a thought -

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 01:43 PM »
I'll give the Woodcraft roll a try; going there tomorrow as it is.

A catch with some of the rasps is the length; some very long ones although I got some plastic square tubes for those so they can be piled in the drawer.  Right now it's mostly the files and small rat-tails that need a home.

I saw the Kuny on LV's site tonight (free shipping week!) and passed on it due to the aligned pockets.  I'm not sure how someone makes a tool roll and doesn't notice that problem...
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 03:55 PM »
Just snooping about - alway like to peek at workshop setups ...

http://kirkhmb.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Shop-Stuff/5539691_KTNJHJ/1162344771_UtbGf#!i=1155640936&k=UB2sP

I have some tool rolls for auger bits and BC handsaws -- I've decided I don't like rolls for anything.  It might be different if I had to transport tools in limited space but I like being able to see the tools & grab what I want.
Perhaps something like this from that same site (stored vertical):
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 04:15 PM »
The bottom riffler in the photo Ron posted is floating!
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 04:17 PM »
The bottom riffler in the photo Ron posted is floating!

I'll chance a wild guess the rack is laying flat...  [eek]  [big grin]  [big grin]

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 09:16 PM »
I suppose another option would be shallow drawers and magnets to limit movement. You wouldn't want the magnets to be too strong though or they'll pull everything from the draw below up  [scared]

I like the ideal of wall mounting with both magnets as keeps and separation pegs for spacing - small round rare earth magnets inserted from the rear of the board would work ... use some bigger magnets and floating rifflers would be a possibility!

 

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 10:30 PM »
I use an old bath towel and roll them up, works pretty fine with a small foot print.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2012, 12:22 AM »
Paul,

how about using a sys-1 with kiazen foam? Make a bunch of recesses DEEP in one direction, then make a second set of cuts SHALLOW
but 90 degrees to the first set. That way they overlap each other at different layers, not unlike how Festool makes the vacuum form
inserts.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2012, 10:17 AM »
Mine are in rack that sits in the lowest shelf of my hand tool cabinet.

The rack is just a short length of 2X that has slots sawn along its length to accept each file or rasp set in the slot on edge.

For shop use, the rack is much handier and more accessible than a roll. A rack can be set up inside a drawer, on a wall, or on a shelf. It can also be removable so that you could set it in a toolbox when you need to carry it to the jobsite. But my expenience is that only 2 or 3 rasps or files are needed on most jobs away from the shop.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2012, 10:26 AM »
My "good" rasps & files are standing handle down in bored holes in a length of 2X (actually 2 thicknesses glued together).  I may build a rack similar to the one above.  If I traveled with them a roll may make sense for me.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2012, 12:34 PM »
The Kaizen foam looks like some interesting stuff to work with.  I could use that for other things I currently have tossed into a Systainer.  For these, there are 4 rasps that are too long to fit.

Between the first picture of the rack made with dowels and the more recent threads of similar racks, I'll probably do that.  For the shop, I don't mind opening the drawer and just going back to grab a rasp I need.  Usually grab the ones I'll need right away and a forgotten one is just 10' away.  Mostly the issue now is laying them flat with nothing preventing them from banging into each other is the problem.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 01:02 AM »
I leave mine in the package they came in and hang them on peg-board...seems to work pretty well and it keeps them from banging around and dulling them. 

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2012, 01:26 PM »
Just an idea, but the Japanese like to transport their pull saws in leather pouches that have a divider leaf to keep the blades separate.  If you were to sew the leafs up and keep the top open you could store some really large files.  Hida tools in Berkley has some for reasonable prices.  For the smaller rasps they have chisel rolls with pockets sewed into top and bottom, so you could alternate to get spacing.

FYI mine are taking up a whole drawer in a toolbox, but I have already bought the Kaizen for the day I have nothing more important to do. I only bring a Shinto rasp, multi file, and small triangular file on jobs and they live in the Veto.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2012, 08:45 PM »
Well Paul, What did you come up with??
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 11:49 PM »
D'oh! I meant to come back to this post to follow up.  Thanks for the  [poke]

I eventually make a long board using the Domino to make slots for the files based on the posting Ron (ronwen) made.  Mostly these are the files (Iwasaki plane files; a lot like floats).  My rasps are in plastic square tubes.

I blogged about it here after getting off my butt to do it :)



And in the drawer:



Surprisingly enough, they take the same amount of space as before, but easy to lift out to the work area and don't get banged up.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2012, 12:40 AM »
Paul Marcel -- Great idea!  I like the corner-bead detail too...

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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2012, 01:27 AM »
Thanks, Scot... the corner bead is from a hand plane; it is easily my favorite profile; a friend of mine got an article accepted to PWW where he shows you how to inlay on the round of the bead.  Should be out by November.

You'll note the left side bead is truncated... this was a scrap.  Kinda regret not cutting off the truncated bead and putting on a new one.  Could do that someday.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2012, 02:15 AM »
D'oh! I meant to come back to this post to follow up.  Thanks for the  [poke]

I eventually make a long board using the Domino to make slots for the files based on the posting Ron (ronwen) made.  Mostly these are the files (Iwasaki plane files; a lot like floats).  My rasps are in plastic square tubes.

I blogged about it here after getting off my butt to do it :)



And in the drawer:



Surprisingly enough, they take the same amount of space as before, but easy to lift out to the work area and don't get banged up.

Do you remove & replace the handles each time you use your files & rasps? (please don't say you use them without handles...  [scared]).

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2012, 01:54 PM »
I recently found this cabinet tucked away in the back of a warehouse in San Francisco. Handmade for an architect around the middle of the twentieth century. The workmanship is impressive.

Made for large documents, the drawers are 45" wide, 33" deep, and 2" high. I think it will be great for chisels, saws, files and rasps, and many other small tools. It's perfect for my BCT profile collection.

Of course with my meager tool collection I won't be able to fill all fifteen drawers, so any and all donations will be greatly appreciated.  [smile]



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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2012, 03:05 PM »
I recently found this cabinet tucked away in the back of a warehouse in San Francisco. Handmade for an architect around the middle of the twentieth century. The workmanship is impressive.

Made for large documents, the drawers are 45" wide, 33" deep, and 2" high. I think it will be great for chisels, saws, files and rasps, and many other small tools. It's perfect for my BCT profile collection.

Of course with my meager tool collection I won't be able to fill all fifteen drawers, so any and all donations will be greatly appreciated.  [smile]


Perhaps Fred can help???  [unsure]

(You'll want to be careful of loading tools toward the center of those drawers designed for drawings.)
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2012, 03:49 PM »

Perhaps Fred can help???  [unsure]

(You'll want to be careful of loading tools toward the center of those drawers designed for drawings.)


Fred could fill all the drawers for me and not even miss the tools.  [big grin]

Ron, the drawer bottoms are 1/4" ply, pretty strong. And the shallowness of the drawers makes it hard to concentrate too much weight in one area.

Still, I did wonder about how it would handle tools instead of paper before buying it. I guess I'll find out.  [smile]
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2012, 04:25 PM »
Well that's the classiest solution yet!  Very nice...
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2012, 04:42 PM »
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A drawer like that full of D-size drawings is pretty heavy. E's and F's are much worse.


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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2012, 05:30 PM »

A drawer like that full of D-size drawings is pretty heavy. E's and F's are much worse.


Good point, that would explain why the drawers are so well made.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2012, 05:03 AM »



As beautiful as they are there would be a limit of usefulness for a number of 2" deep drawers.
 I would be inclined to build several of them into ~4" or greater drawers -- then use the original drawer fronts to keep the same outside look of the chests.   [cool]

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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2012, 05:27 AM »
Most plan/map drawers I've seen have been metal. The large span is enough to cause sag regardless of any weight being added if made of timber.

Pretty unit, but I'd be hesitant putting much in it at all.

Maybe add some bracing ??

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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2012, 08:42 AM »
Most plan/map drawers I've seen have been metal. The large span is enough to cause sag regardless of any weight being added if made of timber.

Pretty unit, but I'd be hesitant putting much in it at all.

Maybe add some bracing ??

CAD made a huge number of these cabinets available for sale. 

Most companies scan their drawing files into hyperspace excepting where they are legal documents stamped/registered by architects & PE's.

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« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2012, 08:43 AM »

As beautiful as they are there would be a limit of usefulness for a number of 2" deep drawers.
 I would be inclined to build several of them into ~4" or greater drawers -- then use the original drawer fronts to keep the same outside look of the chests.   [cool]


Ron, believe it or not I have given some thought to doing just that.

No doubt about it, I fell in love with it because of the looks and the craftsmanship, now I'll have to see the best way to put it to use. A good portion of my Woodpeckers stuff is going to fit, and all my handsaws.

From now on I just won't buy any tool thicker than 2".  [big grin]

This thread has made me think about making a series of lift-out trays for organizing the small tools and carrying them to the workbench.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2012, 08:48 AM »

Most plan/map drawers I've seen have been metal. The large span is enough to cause sag regardless of any weight being added if made of timber.

Pretty unit, but I'd be hesitant putting much in it at all.

Maybe add some bracing ??


Kev, the drawers are surprisingly rigid. Everything on the entire piece is made of solid oak. The drawer runners are oak against oak and slide as smooth as glass, almost smoother than rollers.

I don't know how this cabinet has been used, but it's over fifty years old and the drawers are as straight and flat as can be (so far). If that changes I'll have to think about bracing.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2012, 09:20 AM »
Most plan/map drawers I've seen have been metal. The large span is enough to cause sag regardless of any weight being added if made of timber.

Pretty unit, but I'd be hesitant putting much in it at all.

Maybe add some bracing ??

CAD made a huge number of these cabinets available for sale. 

Most companies scan their drawing files into hyperspace excepting where they are legal documents stamped/registered by architects & PE's.

My dad recently gave me his old drafting tool set. Lovely set of compasses etc. He didn't have a box for them so I looked for one on ebay. To my surprise I found hundreds of drafting sets for sale, many in excellent condition for next to nothing. CAD has made all these sets largely obsolete it seems, but I still prefer to sketch my designs by hand.

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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2012, 09:34 AM »

My dad recently gave me his old drafting tool set. Lovely set of compasses etc. He didn't have a box for them so I looked for one on ebay. To my surprise I found hundreds of drafting sets for sale, many in excellent condition for next to nothing. CAD has made all these sets largely obsolete it seems, but I still prefer to sketch my designs by hand.


Drafting tables too!

I recently picked up a nice table for my office, dirt cheap. For me, it's much better for drawing than sitting at a desk.
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2012, 01:52 PM »

My dad recently gave me his old drafting tool set. Lovely set of compasses etc. He didn't have a box for them so I looked for one on ebay. To my surprise I found hundreds of drafting sets for sale, many in excellent condition for next to nothing. CAD has made all these sets largely obsolete it seems, but I still prefer to sketch my designs by hand.


Drafting tables too!

I recently picked up a nice table for my office, dirt cheap. For me, it's much better for drawing than sitting at a desk.


When our company got rid of hundreds I got one -- perfect for building R/C airplanes.

Richard, Along with drafting instruments I'll be happy to sell a few of my "like new" slide rules for just what I paid for them (60's & 70's pricing).   [big grin]
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Re: How do you store your files/rasps?
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2012, 01:12 PM »
Joraft,
Who is the green guy kissing the side of your document case in the first pic you posted?? I also noticed he in not in the second pic????
By the way,
Nice work Paul on your finished product :-)
Cheers