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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 01:28 PM » |
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That hurts, but then again that T- shirt says every thing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 01:59 PM » |
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He has a total of 24 videos....don't miss any of them. 
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PeterK
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 02:32 PM » |
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I just wasted 8 minutes and 36 seconds of my life!!!!
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 03:16 PM » |
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here in england we have english people who are WAY more stupid than this  and.......... they dont need tee shirts to proove it
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 04:05 PM » |
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This is why I don't pick up hand tools, because I'd look like this kid. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 04:38 PM » |
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He is not the greatest woodworker buy I amazed what he accomplish. Kudos to him  This post is his original post at lumberjocks, take a look: "
i just started woodworking 2 years ago I lived in brooklyn ny for 10 years at van dyke a project in brownsville. I got into woodworking after my dad made me work with him one day my mom died when I was 2 so I dont really talk about that very much so I live with my step mom and my dad I still work with him. He runs viennas construction co. He was and alaskan crab fisherman for 20 years until 1998 when my mom died. He took over the company from my grandfather who was a fisherman for 40 years. The company has been around since 1940 when my grandfather immagrated from greece to new york. When I lived in brooklyn I would get in trouble with the police all the time. I know most of the cops in the 73 precinct and the 75 prcinct 73 being brownsville and 75 being new lots or east new york. Last year 2 of my homeboys died bobby asson and erick scantelli so they were each 17 when they got hit up so I needed something to do so I would end up like them so I started woodworking when I didnt have anything else to do instead of doing stuff I cant talk about so nothing really scares me anymore which is the reason that I never wear saftey glasses. In the summer when im not in school im in alaska or maine working on a family boat my step moms family is lobster fisherman and by dads family including him are alaskan crab fisherman. I usually work on the F/V clycone which fishes brown red golden king crab, opilio crab, tanner crab, and she is a tender in the summer which means she buys the catch from the gillnetters and and delivers the salmon to the canneries. I am a third generation fisherman and I will probably all year round when im 18.
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There is never a situation where it can't be done with the right hand tool - even though it may be a lot more work.
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 04:48 AM » |
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now THAT puts an entirly different perspective on the matter
i wish we had more kids like that here in england who are intent on putting their lives together with little of no training
now i sound old
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 03:12 AM » |
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Mattfc, Jmbfestool, PeterK, Brice Burell, Greg R; Gents, you may wish to consider removing your posts made before knowing this guy's situation.
Mr Swenson, the guy in the video deserves a lot more respect from someone who has demonstrated a distinct lack of maturity in the past. At least he is having a go; wobbly bench and vice notwithstanding. He's not lobbing abusive pictures and emails around when someone offended him.
Have a nice smug week.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 08:02 AM » |
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This kid, altho not showing the very greatest of technical skills, nor command of the English language with is writing, is definitely going to make something of himself. I got curious and searched thru his website. He is evidently supporting his desire for building up a workshop and collection of tools by building an informative website. He is not affraid to represent himself as he is learning along the way. Instead of sitting in front of the "boob toob" with a blank mind and fathomless mentality, he is putting the "toob" to work and making it work for him. i did not look at everything he has to offer. i cringed at some of his "demos", certainly not on a level with John Lucas, but the kid has an imagination and he does have ideas. He will go far.
he comes from a long line of fishermen, he is proud of his heritage and he is out there demonstrating in a very positive and productive way, while so many of his peers are out there demonstrating to tear down all that has been given to them. My hat is off to him. Tinker
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 08:09 AM » |
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Yes that may be Tinker he looks like a go getter, but if the kid gets killed or seriously injured it is all for not.
How can anyone use a plane without making sure there is no wiggle in the vise holding the wood. It's A recipe for disaster. At least a video game can not cut off someones finger or literally kill them on the spot.
The kid needs to take some classes on safety and really follow them. I sure do not want any of my 6 kids following a bunch of his procedures, thats for sure.
At that age we are invincible or at least we think so. He is going to look back at these vids when he is 30 or 40 and probably crap his pants.
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The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 09:03 AM » |
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Mattfc, Jmbfestool, PeterK, Brice Burell, Greg R; Gents, you may wish to consider removing your posts made before knowing this guy's situation.........
I know what it's like to grow up in a bad situation (although I don't have his experience with law enforcement) like this young man and I wish him all the best. That said, he is not a role model I'd want young people to follow. What he shows in his videos can be dangerous, the fact he is overcoming a tough past doesn't change that fact. He is unaware of his ignorance, that can be very dangerous to himself and anyone learning from him videos. I hope he goes to vocational school, most high schools have programs to allow kids to get an early start at the training of their choice.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 12:32 PM » |
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Mattfc, Jmbfestool, PeterK, Brice Burell, Greg R; Gents, you may wish to consider removing your posts made before knowing this guy's situation.
Have a nice smug week.
Wasn't feeling smug at all, and regardless of the gentlemans background I am willing to call a spade a spade, being unsafe is just that, whether life has been tough on you or not. Given that others can watch this video with the intent of learning something (that is how I found it), I honestly thought it was a bit of joke against health and safety (chiseling towards yourself, using a loose mounted metalworkers vice with sharp implements). I wish him all the best, and good on him he is taking responsibility for his life and doing something positive.
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Charimon
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 03:46 PM » |
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Perhaps we as the members of this forum should take him under a collective wing. He has drive and a willingness to put what he knows out to others. Imagine episode 498 if we supported and helped him become the craftsman that it is clear he wants to be.
Thanks Craig
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"The existence of the flame thrower proves that at one time, somewhere, somebody said, " You Know, There's a group of people over there that I'd like to set on fire right now but they're too far away."
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2009, 04:04 PM » |
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Perhaps we as the members of this forum should take him under a collective wing. He has drive and a willingness to put what he knows out to others. Imagine episode 498 if we supported and helped him become the craftsman that it is clear he wants to be.
Thanks Craig
Any guidance that anyone could give him would be good, looking at his web site it looked like he came close to losing a couple of digits with his miter saw.
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 07:14 PM » |
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I just posted a comment to him linking this discussion thread, and inviting him to join up. i find that for an 18 yr old to be trying his hand at woodworking, writing, filming, editing, finding sponsors... is a great thing. Craig
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My kid would not take this kind of offer as anything good. Don't you know that a teenager is always right, kind of like a wife. He may just say F.O. and he did not ask for our help. I am just saying he may have a negative response. I might if someone looked at my stuff and tried to tell me I was completely wrong in what I was doing. This thread is not really a complimentary thing at all.
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I just posted a comment to him linking this discussion thread, and inviting him to join up. i find that for an 18 yr old to be trying his hand at woodworking, writing, filming, editing, finding sponsors... is a great thing. Craig
Well, I'd be happy to offer any help I can to him.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2009, 06:47 AM » |
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I have worked with many kids of all ages. both as a coach in youth sports (soccer<> which i had never played in my own youth) and as an employer. I have found so many of them to be truly wanting to learn. Even those who were not the greatest of students in the classroom were quite willing to learn when they realized that learning did not always need to come from text books. In fact, there has often been an awakening once a lad learned that real life actually did relate to what had been learned in the classroom. I was not always the most pleasant person to work with as an employer when working with many of those teanagers, but in later years, many have come to me to tell me how much they appreciated how much I had taught them. Some have even taken up the trades I had taught them with threats of finding a foot planted in their you know where. They knew what was honest when they were yelled at. (I had one teen who later went into the marines. In boot camp, one of his Sergeants took to a yelling session (those who have been in the military know what that could be) where he was rattling the walls around him. As he finally ran out of breath, the lad looked him in the eye and said,"you know, i used to work for a guy who could yell twice as loud as you." And, nearly 50 years later, we are still good friends. teens understand a whole lot more than many of us O.F.'s give them credit for.
Nick, so what if the lad says F.O. I had thought about sending him a note, which action Craig has beat me to the punch. This kid has learned, and gives credit to some of those who have taught him. (especially his grandfather) he may not have learned proper methods. If he is lucky, he will still be able to count to ten without taking off his shoes in his old age. He has had his problems along the way, but is trying to straighten his life out. Some of us have had easy lives with the good fortune to have had good teachers along the way. Others have had it a little less in the good fortune area. I don't have any idea how many bloody noses this kid has had, but he evidently has been running wild for much of his life. I know a little bit about being in trouble with cops as a teenager. (maniac driver<> and I do mean maniac) I also know how much I learned from those same cops who in later years were actually good buddies. (yeah, even drinkin' buddies) It doesn't always take a tremendous effort to help a kid along so long as there is honesty and sincerity in the straightening out process.
I gotta go. rain on the way and lawns to seed before it does. Tinker
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2009, 11:20 AM » |
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Hey I was just saying, yeah right so what I agree. I just did not want anyone to be surprised by a negative response.
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2009, 03:42 PM » |
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OK Nick. it is sometimes quite easy to write misunderstoodings. especially at 3 and 4 am on a rainy day. i sometimes get carried away with words when trying to get an idea across in print. no complaints, really.
i knew what you meant about teenagers and have dealt with the same 'tudes you mentioned. For all you find that way, there are others who just really want to learn. The very best crew I ever had working for me were a group of teens. they were very hard workers, crazy and a heck of a lot of fun>>> even when I was yelling at them. Such kids are out there. I just wanted to put that point across.
Even tho i layed down the law to those guys in most vocal tones at times, it was me they called at 1 or 3 am when they got into difficulties they dared not wake their own families for. They learned how to extract a car from deep mud using only rope and pulleys. They learned how to siphon gas from one car to another (with very stern threats to their lives if i EVER heard of them stealing gas that way.) I never complained, even with my own kid, when i had to rescue them from police station. They learned how to patch drywall damaged in the middle of the night. etc-etc-etc. Those turned out to be fun times. And they all turned out great. Tinker
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I just wasted 8 minutes and 36 seconds of my life!!!!
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Hey, at least the kid's not sittin on his arse playing xbox. He may not be doing it the best but he's doin it!!!!!!!!!! I give him two thumbs up. Never know he may be the next Maloof.
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The video, in isolation is funny for the work bench moving - no more really. He shows an understanding of what's going on and why he's doing it :-)
Now, his back ground is a different thing and the two can be viewed independently. Comments made without the context are just fine. With the context, I doubt they would have been made.
You'll be amazed what kids with tough backgrounds can do. Alas, one trainee I've got has been sent to prison for a few weeks - shame as he is brilliant at what he does and i've just paid for his carpentry course at college - he will learn. The other guy has just had a serious car crash and was in a comma. He's out of it now and staying with me whilst he recovers. Now this guy looks like a rough guy, you'd cross the road if you saw him coming... HOWEVER... he can build you a house from scratch (as he already has done several times with me) and it will be perfect !! Now this guy started cleaning up, his dad is a farmer and he has just learnt everything by watching and trying.
But i did chuckle at the table moving - it's happened to us all - come on hasn't it... The funny thing is the chap keeps on going - irrelevant of the problems - in hindsight mirrors his life - good for him..
You'd be amazed how much you get from giving someone a little rough at the edges a chance. you can (well i can) spot the good ones a mile off. The ARE worth a little investment of your time... It makes you feel good too, giving someone a hand in life.
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 [big grin]this entire post should have been on leno [thanks]all the respones make me fill like all the smiley faces 
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My concern with the whole mess is that in today's technological climate anyone with a video camera and an internet connection is an "expert" --- and an educator. We know that his presentation is ludicrous, but what about that poor newbie who finds that video without any forehand knowledge?
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what is interesting is go to his site now and see how far he has progressed in just 8 months...
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Woodworking is child's play compared to commercial fishing, crabbing in Alaska is probably one of the most dangerous jobs on the entire planet.
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