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Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2018, 11:29 AM »
No problem, gladly done! :)

If that's how you feel, send them back - and tell the dealer why. It will not change a thing at Wera, but maybe the dealer will put the COO in the product description.

Kind regards,
Oliver
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Offline deepcreek

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2018, 10:26 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?
Joe Adams
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2018, 10:53 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

My full size screw drivers are all Snap-on, however I do own a set of Wiha miniature sized screw drivers because they are actually nicer than what Snap-on sells. Everyone is made in Germany and that declaration is printed on each handle. The miniature ones are very nice.

https://www.wihatools.com/tech-tools/precision-screwdrivers

Offline RKA

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2018, 11:55 AM »
I have a set of heavy duty Wiha drivers.  I like the textured finish on them, not really keen on the round body and the tips seem a little soft, but they do seem a little harder wearing than my Wera lasertips.  My favorite Wiha is the xeno driver or terminal driver (?) for electrical work.  The tip is a combination phillips and straight edge.  They engage every groove in a terminal screw and don't cam out like a phillips or straight edge might. 
-Raj

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2018, 02:27 AM »
Same here, coincidentally.   PB Swiss for most things, but I still sport Wiha's Heavy Duty Microfinish, the Xeno and the precision screwdrivers (the classic style). 
I prefer Wiha over Wera, but Wera has way better consistency, finish and quality control.   

About the COO thing.   I've got German and Czech Wera's of the same line and they're indistinguishable.  It's the same robots making them.

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2018, 02:42 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

I'd say, go for it.  Be mindful that that set goes on sale every six months or so ($99 or something in the ballpark).  I have a gajillion soft finish (and "3k" range) screwdrivers.  They're not my preference, but I prefer them over 99% of what's out there.   If you have a Festool bit holding screwdriver, that's a Wiha softfinish bit holding screwdriver. 

The handle gives you more torque than average, and you can easily over torque and break the 6 and 8 torx tips.  Be warned.  All of my small ball end screwdrivers are dead too. :0

Offline deepcreek

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2018, 06:46 AM »
Thanks @yetihunter

Now I'm looking into the PB Swiss line.

I wonder if their "unlimited guarantee" covers broken tips.

Any recommendations?

I really do appreciate it. 

My Dad always said buy the best tools you can afford and you'll only buy them once.
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Offline RKA

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2018, 07:32 AM »
I believe it does, but I’ve only broken one bit in the last 7-8 years and that was because I was doing something they were not intended to do.  I had the bit installed on a 12v impact driver, which was fine until my approach angle veered too far off of the axis of the screw.  The tip chipped.  I didn't bother contacting them, it was my doing.  But 90% of the time I reach for their ratcheting driver and 1” bits.  They fit screw heads nicely and do what they are designed to do. 
-Raj

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2018, 03:32 PM »
Thanks @yetihunter

Now I'm looking into the PB Swiss line.

I wonder if their "unlimited guarantee" covers broken tips.

Any recommendations?

I really do appreciate it. 

My Dad always said buy the best tools you can afford and you'll only buy them once.

Well, let me address the caveats: You may be underwhelmed.  They're still just screwdrivers. 
US distribution is kind of... eh...  I generally deal with Toollady (nice gals and quarterly 20-25% off sales), and then import from Werk10 as a backup.  The range is very limited.  The handles are very small.  You may not like that. (Wiha handles are much larger).

The hex keys are the bomb diggity. Both the general and the offset.   Long, of course.

But 10-20% better than Wiha at twice to three times the price. 
These Wiha's are nice: https://www.wihatools.com/on-sale/ergostar-ball-end-hex-l-key-inch-metric-22-piece-set
The "magic ring" version is wiggidy whack.
And I actually prefer Wiha t-handle hex to anything else... get ready for contradiction.... the ball ends I like only come in the magic ring flavor :0. 
https://www.wihatools.com/magicringr-ball-end-hex-metric-t-handles

I digress, back to PB Swiss.

Onto the screwdrivers:  Swissgrip.  The santoprene ones. 
You can get pretty rainbow sets, or plain red.  Whatever you prefer. 

Their phillips and pozi screwdrivers are the best in my opinion.  People rave about their slotted drivers, but I much prefer gunsmith and cabinetmaking style tips.   Coincidentally, their slotted bits are of that style.   

The torx range is good to.  Just very limited.

They make a heavy duty version of their slotted, pozi and phillips.  I do have those, too, because I'm cavalier with my finances.  Alas, they're only nice because of the heavier size and weight (still lighter than an average screwdriver).  And mostly because they're black.

Their insert and power bits are the absolute best.  All of them.  Particularly, the phillips, pozi, and hex/allen.
Best fit, best resistance to corrosion, best wear/lifespan.  For storing those bits, the red 10 slot bit strips they make are super perfect.
The actual cases that they make for those bit strips, however, are garbage.

The ratchet bit screwdriver (insider 3) is nice to have.  I like it.  I use it at least every other day.  However, I can see most people not being happy about the price compared to everything else out there. 

I don't like their t-handles. 

Their punches are super duper nice. 




Offline sigmatango

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2018, 06:06 PM »
I've joined the club of Wera worshippers.
It started by buying a mini driver set...
281829-0

Then I needed a reliable assortment of driver bits and sockets to compliment my T18...
281831-1

And on top of that, I was tired of relying on my crescent wrench...

281833-2

I am very impressed and chuffed.  And impressed...
TS55REQ - OF1400 - RO150 - CXS - T18+3 - CT26E - BR10 - KAL - MFT3 - SYS2(x1) - SYS-StorageBox - SYS-Toolbox2 -Dewalt DWS709 - Ryobi  P854 - Milwaukee 5616-20 - Kreg PRS2100 - Fuji Semi-Pro 2

Offline RKA

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2018, 10:21 AM »
Their phillips and pozi screwdrivers are the best in my opinion.  People rave about their slotted drivers, but I much prefer gunsmith and cabinetmaking style tips.   Coincidentally, their slotted bits are of that style.   

@yetihunter
What is the difference between their slotted drivers and the gunsmith style tips?  I have their 1 and 2" straight bits and they have a concave grind on both sides so the part engaging the screw has a squared off profile (rather than a wedge).  I don't have any of their straight drivers, but I had assumed they would be designed in a similar fashion.  So maybe I don't understand what you mean by the gunsmith style tips?  Or maybe their drivers are machined differently than their bits?
-Raj

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2018, 01:01 PM »
Their slotted screwdrivers are machined different than their bits.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/screwdrivers/highlights/

I like the bits, I'm on the fence about the screwdrivers.  I hardly use either, though.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 01:03 PM by yetihunter »

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2018, 03:50 PM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

Well, speak of the devil.   I just got this in my e-mail today. 
$71 for the very same 20 piece set.   

Here is the link:  https://www.wihatools.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/7025/s/softfinishr-slotted-phillips-torxr-pozidriv-square-screwdriver-20-piece-set/?utm_source=Wiha+Tools+USA&utm_campaign=e1d698a818-ddjuly2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_74d51750e7-e1d698a818-28151025&mc_cid=e1d698a818&mc_eid=1f6e2b28a7

Coupon code is wtc-drivers


Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2018, 05:01 PM »
Thanks @yetihunter for the heads-up on the sale!  Just the type of set I was looking to get a good price on.  Handles look similar to the Felo 5-pc set I bought a few years ago, so hope they are just as comfortable in the hand.

Regards,
Gerald
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Offline deepcreek

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2018, 07:55 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up @yetihunter.

I took advantage of this sale as well as eBay's 15% off coupon today.

I'll post my haul on the new "Wiha Goodness" thread.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/hand-tools/some-new-wiha-goodness/
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Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2018, 08:54 PM »
Aww, you're welcome.

To answer about the Felo comparison, if you're refering to the squishy "Ergonic" line, no, they are not like that.   Just your standard overmolding (simlar to festool's DWC or PDC).  Speaking of molds, Wiha molds the handles directly onto the shank (most companies use a press to push the driver blade into the handle). 

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2018, 09:20 PM »
If you guys really want to nerd it up, I spotted the generic Bost (Facom) screwdrivers at the Festool USA HQ.  They were probably branded SK.  I think I also saw one or two Facom Ergotwist (long discontinued and same factory) screwdrivers.   

You can still find the Bost screwdrivers as Britool, Stanley (uk/europe), and maybe Draper.   But in the US, Stanley went out of their way to offer a knockoff version from China of...modern Stanley quality? :0

The Ergotwist, unfortunately, is extinct.   

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2018, 09:21 PM »
Correct- I have the Ergonic ones.  I like them not so much for their squishiness, but the size fits my hands well.  Looking forward to the Wiha- first purchase from their company- also got some t-handle hex in metric. Will post when they arrive in the Wiha thread.

Now guys, take a break posting about great hand tools- my bank account is going dry!   [scared]

Regards,
Gerald
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Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2018, 11:30 PM »
I posted this by mistake in the Wiha thread, so I will delete that post if the mods want me to. @SRSemenza

I have more Wera tools but I also have and like Whia, Knipex, and even Klein.



« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 11:35 PM by Runhard »
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2018, 11:38 PM »
I have more Wera tools but I also have and like Whia, Knipex, and even Klein

Where’s Oliver when we need him?

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2018, 08:23 PM »
A.) How did you get access to my sortainers?  [big grin]
B.) Forget Oliver, we've gone the full Monte.  No, really, Monte from GarageJournal.

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2018, 08:41 PM »
Correct- I have the Ergonic ones.  I like them not so much for their squishiness, but the size fits my hands well.  Looking forward to the Wiha- first purchase from their company- also got some t-handle hex in metric. Will post when they arrive in the Wiha thread.

Now guys, take a break posting about great hand tools- my bank account is going dry!   [scared]

Regards,
Gerald

Hmmm, I recall that they are smaller than the Wiha handles.  We'll see when you get them how you like (or dislike) them. 
If they don't pass the test, at least you have thousands of German, Swiss and Japanese options.

Since y'all are going full blown German hand tool; ' toolguyd4life ' is the permanent 10% coupon at KC Tool .  They've um...expanded just a tiny bit since the days they only sold Knipex and Wiha.   Be forewarned, in North America, Gedore, Hazet, and Stahwille, specifically, sell for 2 to 3 times the amount that the rest of the world pays.


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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2018, 10:53 PM »
Recent  purchase -
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2018, 10:55 AM »
Recent  purchase -

Hey @Untidy Shop , are those stainless?

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2018, 10:07 PM »
Hmmm, I recall that they are smaller than the Wiha handles.  We'll see when you get them how you like (or dislike) them. 
If they don't pass the test, at least you have thousands of German, Swiss and Japanese options.



The set arrived today- they feel similar to the Felo except no 'squishiness'.  I think they are keepers!

Thanks and Have a Great Weekend.

Gerald
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Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2018, 12:24 AM »

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2018, 12:37 PM »
Recent  purchase -
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Hey bud were those alan wrenches Imperial or Metric? I have the metric set and have been looking for the Imperial.

Nice set

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2018, 12:41 PM »
@Runhard

Nice set you have.

Good idea using a sortainer to store yer Wera stuff.

 I have a sortainainer with some empty drawer. I think Ill follow your lead and use the empty drawers to stroe and organize my Wera stuff.

Ive been reorganizing my shop and thats a great idea as I have my sortainers stored under my MFTs. It will save me a walk to the roll away.

Plus that socket set and wrench set is pretty slick.

Ill take a photo of my insulated screw driver set and post it.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2018, 08:59 PM »
Recent  purchase -
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Hey bud were those alan wrenches Imperial or Metric? I have the metric set and have been looking for the Imperial.

Nice set
@jobsworth
Thanks Ron.
They are metric.
You may recall I am not an ‘imperialist’.  [big grin]  [smile]

We can however get an imperial version in Australia - image from dealer website -
https://www.bunnings.com.au/search/products?q=wera&facets=BrandName%3DWERA



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@Cheese
Hi Cheese.
They (metric) are chrome plated. The Imperial Set is Black High Strength Tool Steel according to dealer website.
I stand to be corrected but I thought stainless steel processing weakened the strength.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2018, 09:14 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2018, 09:04 PM »
Untidy shop

Thanks for the info. I think I found a place that should have them.