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Some new Wera goodness!
« on: April 16, 2018, 04:15 PM »
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 10:53 AM »
Nice! LOVE Wera! All I use for hand drivers in the shop! Wait for KCToolco.com to do their 10-15% off coupons as those are typically the best prices I have found.
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 03:59 PM »
Question Seth, why the need for the insulated Torx Bits?   [blink]
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 04:07 PM »
Question Seth, why the need for the insulated Torx Bits?   [blink]

Ran into a Torx screw in a panel recently.  Maybe it's not normal, I don't know, but there it was.

I already have the handle so I figured why not?


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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 08:22 PM »
I wanted to buy a few Wera screwdrivers, but I didn't cuz they all have the same color handle and are indistinguishable from each other in a tool bag. I like to know exactly what I'm pulling out of the bag even when tools are in the wrong place at times

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 08:41 PM »
I wanted to buy a few Wera screwdrivers, but I didn't cuz they all have the same color handle and are indistinguishable from each other in a tool bag. I like to know exactly what I'm pulling out of the bag even when tools are in the wrong place at times

Funny you bring this up ......................  I was just looking on the Wera USA site for some info and noticed that they are adding color coding to the top of the 300 and stainless line. Maybe others ?

http://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_screwdrivers_stainless_steel_3367_tx.html

See color chart in right column of boxes.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 09:56 PM »
I have this [darn] forum to thank for my Wera addiction.  Really like the 1/4" Zyklop set for all around shop use. 
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 10:08 AM »
Question for the long term Wera users. Did you find the handles comfortable from the beginning or did it take a while to get used to them? Every time I pick one up in the store that handle doesn't fit my hand the way I like.
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 10:38 AM »
I liked mine from the get go. But some folks don’t.  Wera isn’t the only game in town either. Take a look at Felo, Gedore, Wiha, Hazet.

KC Tools handles them 

https://www.kctoolco.com

Snap-on screwdrivers also get rave reviews as well

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2018, 11:29 AM »
Question for the long term Wera users. Did you find the handles comfortable from the beginning or did it take a while to get used to them? Every time I pick one up in the store that handle doesn't fit my hand the way I like.


The handle comfort / ergo is going to really depend on the person. I liked the Wera from the start. If you really want to know I suggest getting one in a common size and trying it out. The way it feels just holding it compared to using it can be quite different ....... which goes for any brand.

In general I don't like handles that are completely covered in grippy material. I find that it makes them hard to turn quickly. The Wera 300 series is a nice combination of grip and quick turning.

My other favorite handle is on the old Craftsman Pro series. When they were solid hard handles (the bottom one in the picture, no longer available) not the newer mixed material.

If looking at Snap On they make two different handle types.



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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2018, 12:23 PM »
I wanted to buy a few Wera screwdrivers, but I didn't cuz they all have the same color handle and are indistinguishable from each other in a tool bag. I like to know exactly what I'm pulling out of the bag even when tools are in the wrong place at times

Same here, I found that Felo set. They are the same color but with identification from the top. It's hard to find a complete set and buying individually comes pretty expensive  [mad]

I bet Wiha, Wera and Felo are all sleeping in the same bed  [eek] (nothing wrong with that tho)

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2018, 05:15 PM »
Hi!

Cool scores Seth!

Seems you had the same luck with that panel that I have when dismantling something: There's always that one type screw/bolt you didn't expect to find in there. lol.  [eek] [blink] [scared] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2018, 02:43 AM »
Since the thread is „Wera goodness“, have you checked the wooden style WERAs?



I inherited some and like them.
But I do prefer the Kraftform handles, and as others said, liked them from the get-go.

But we are all snowflakes! So take what fits you, snowflake. ;)


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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 02:05 PM »
Thanks to you guys, I've joined the Wera bandwagon.

I just bought the Wera Kraftform Big Pack 300 14-piece screwdriver set with wall mountable rack (that I doubt I use).  Wera part number 05105630001.

I paid $78.99 with free shipping on eBay.  They're running a 10% eBay Bucks promo through tonight that you have to activate first.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/253114917084

Slotted Screwdriver: 3.5 x 0.6 x 100mm
Slotted Screwdriver: 4.0 x 0.8 x 100mm
Slotted Screwdriver: 6.5 x 1.2 x 150mm
Phillips Screwdriver: #1 x 80mm
Phillips Screwdriver: #2 x 100mm
Phillips Screwdriver: #3 x 150mm
Pozidriv Screwdriver: #1 x 80mm
Pozidriv Screwdriver: #2 x 100mm
Pozidriv Screwdriver: #3 x 150mm
Torx Screwdriver: TX 10 x 80mm
Torx Screwdriver: TX 15 x 80mm
Torx Screwdriver: TX 20 x 100mm
Torx Screwdriver: TX 25 x 100mm
Torx Screwdriver: TX 30 x 115mm

I also bought #1, #2, and #3 Square drive Wera screwdrivers individually.  I could not find these in a set.  I really wish the handles were green and black but for some reason they are red and gray.  (#1 - 05100070001, #2 - 05100071001, & #3 - 05100072001)

I'm already thinking about Wera nutdrivers and I don't even have these yet.  Slippery slope indeed.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 02:10 PM »
Nice! I have all those drivers. Never been anything but great for me! Hope you like em!
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2018, 02:16 PM »
Nice purchase.  I bought the Wera Kraftform 3mm and 5mm hex drivers and dedicated them to my MFT3 setup tools.  To my hand they are the most comfortable drivers in my tool box.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2018, 03:38 PM »
The square drive are color coded for the sizes. Black / Gray ( #3?) , Red #2 , Green #1.

Wera has recently started adding color ID to the handle end for other drive types. Be interested to know if you get the newer or older handle markings?

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2018, 06:46 PM »
The square drive are color coded for the sizes. Black / Gray ( #3?) , Red #2 , Green #1.

I know I shouldn't care what color they are but for some weird reason I want consistency.

You can get the square drives with red & gray in all three sizes if they come packaged for retail sale.  Not sure why the colors vary for bulk sales of the same sizes.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2018, 06:58 PM »
The square drive are color coded for the sizes. Black / Gray ( #3?) , Red #2 , Green #1.

I know I shouldn't care what color they are but for some weird reason I want consistency.

Me too! So now after reading that they are switching to coloring their drivers Im happy I bought all of mine already so that all ming match. I never was too into the color coding deal as its not like there is any standard among manufacturers so I doubt Ill ever memorize which color is which. I suppose I might get more used to grabbing the colors I use the most, but still I dont think it would be that useful.
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 11:53 PM »
The color coding isn't the entire handle. It's only on the top of the handle at the very end.

http://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_kraftform_plus__series_300_334_sk_6.html

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2018, 01:22 AM »
I finally received my Wera order after the shipment got lost in transit.

Unfortunately I just learned that while Wera is a German company, their screwdrivers are made in the Czech Republic.

I'm not thrilled by this discovery.  I value German craftsmanship as much as their engineering.

I am seriously considering returning them and buying either Felo or Wiha instead.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2018, 04:36 AM »
Hi!

Wera "always" had an entry line of screwdrivers made in Czech Republic - those were sold as rather cheap sets in typical "DIY-Markets". They were called "Kraftkant" - while "Kraftform" were higher end.

Somewhere in 2005, others list 2007 - complete production was shifted to Czech Republic.

But they are very good at "hiding" this in plain sight - many people don't know/notice and still think they get a "Made in Germany" product. Truth is, only their "self-service packaging" - those black boxes with soft touch finish - those are made in Germany. And the packaging only! (They even state this on the box: "Packaging made in Germany".

I have truly ambivalent feelings about this.

Wera actually makes great products and I trust their VDE tools. Personally I think their use of terms like "Designed in Germany" on displays, with German flag and all - is misleading and calculated/ done on purpose - the same goes for their "Tool Rebels" marketing approach - but who am I to judge? And I have said this before, they surely focus more on the financially stable DIY'er/ occasional user with their "Apple'esque" packaging and "self service" shelves in "DIY-Markets". But then again, there are enough Pros using their VDE tools, and rely on their really large selection of bits, speciality bits and bit holders ...

I will add that I wasn't very pleased when I found out that everything I had bought more recently came from/ was made in CZ, because for a long time I was sure, I was buying a product that was made only 30 miles from where I live. Then again, the quality is what you buy these for - and the quality is surely there - no matter of COO.

So while my personal purchases of Wera have certainly dropped sharply ever since, I still have and use plenty of their tools, bits, bit holder ... And I'm pleased with them, they are high quality.

In regard to your question:

If COO matters to you and you were under the impression of buying "Made in Germany" tools for the very reason that they are actually made in Germany - return them, they are not - none of Wera's portfolio is.

If you wanted reliable, high quality screwdrivers - you got them, keep them.

It's really all I can say.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2018, 06:57 AM »
@six-point socket II

They are not the only ones - Metabo, AEG etc., 'German Design' or 'German Engineering' but made in China. Even 'you know who' with elements of some batteries.

And Sysrock -
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/sysrock-made-is-china/
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2018, 08:11 AM »
I don't have any problems with that at all, honestly.  [smile]

Wera is a special case to me, because I felt somewhat "deceived" because for a long time I was sure when buying their higher end products I was buying a Product made in Germany.

Nothing in their old catalogs, or when buying single screwdrivers from the self-serice display, for example pointed to Czech Republic as COO. And if they had communicated that clearer, I wouldn't have taken any issue with it. And the fact that now, 10 or more years after the shift has been made, people still think they buy a Product made in Germany, shows that their communication on this aspect isn't as clear as it could be. (Should be, imho.)

But again, that is just my personal view/opinion and how I felt/feel.

This post, and my post from 04:36 AM is not to be seen as a/(my) general statement on the overall "COO issue" - because that would go much deeper (for me) and I have a very diverse/ many different views on that depending on what the product is and who the manufacturer behind it is and so on ...

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2018, 08:43 AM »
I don't have any problems with that at all, honestly.  [smile]

Wera is a special case to me, because I felt somewhat "deceived" because for a long time I was sure when buying their higher end products I was buying a Product made in Germany.

Nothing in their old catalogs, or when buying single screwdrivers from the self-serice display, for example pointed to Czech Republic as COO. And if they had communicated that clearer, I wouldn't have taken any issue with it. And the fact that now, 10 or more years after the shift has been made, people still think they buy a Product made in Germany, shows that their communication on this aspect isn't as clear as it could be. (Should be, imho.)

But again, that is just my personal view/opinion and how I felt/feel.

This post, and my post from 04:36 AM is not to be seen as a/(my) general statement on the overall "COO issue" - because that would go much deeper (for me) and I have a very diverse/ many different views on that depending on what the product is and who the manufacturer behind it is and so on ...

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Hi Oliver
I highly value your writing here and my thinking and viewing is identical with you. So thanks and nice to have you here. [smile]
While back I was looking for a hand deburring tool and I came across the Gedore. I did buy it and I like the tool a lot. But my problem is, this item is sold almost everywhere under the Made in Germany but go to this link and look under the country of origin and you can see that there are three countries involved in this little had tool.

 https://www.kctoolco.com/gedore-8730-deburrer/

 

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2018, 09:02 AM »
Hi,

Thank you very much!

The handle is made by Oplast -> http://www.oplast.si/index.php?id=8&tip=vsebina&vsebina=6&jezik=en

It's Gedore's 1/4" Multi Grip. As far as I know quite a couple of the Gedore handles are made there.

The bit holder is Gedore Germany, and the 1/4" deburring bit, if I had to guess (and it's nothing more than a guess) I'd say it's made by Noga of Israel -> http://www.noga.com/

So 3 COO because it's actually 3 single pieces :)

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2018, 09:37 AM »
...and the 1/4" deburring bit, if I had to guess (and it's nothing more than a guess) I'd say it's made by Noga of Israel -> http://www.noga.com/

Hey Oliver you're probably right, or the bit could also be made by Vargus/Shaviv which also has manufacturing in Israel.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2018, 10:31 AM »
These days its becoming not so much WHERE products are made, but how much time and effort the parent company is spending on sending their OWN people to that country of manufacture to monitor and keep up with quality control. If they are spending the money to do that, then it really doesnt matter whose factory the product comes from, just that its held to stringent quality standards.
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2018, 10:46 AM »
Rationally speaking, yes absolutely.

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2018, 11:15 AM »
@six-point socket II - I really appreciate your in depth explanation about Wera.

My issue is I feel deceived.  I bought three loose square drive screwdrivers that came with a retail "hanger".  That's where I noticed the "Made in Czech Rep." notation.  It's not on the tools themselves.  I had to look hard to find the COO on the back of the box of the 14 piece set.  Also made in Czech Republic.

I should have dug deeper.  I shouldn't have assumed.  It may not even matter.  I may be a tool snob.  But still, it ticks me off.
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2018, 11:29 AM »
No problem, gladly done! :)

If that's how you feel, send them back - and tell the dealer why. It will not change a thing at Wera, but maybe the dealer will put the COO in the product description.

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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2018, 10:26 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2018, 10:53 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

My full size screw drivers are all Snap-on, however I do own a set of Wiha miniature sized screw drivers because they are actually nicer than what Snap-on sells. Everyone is made in Germany and that declaration is printed on each handle. The miniature ones are very nice.

https://www.wihatools.com/tech-tools/precision-screwdrivers

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2018, 11:55 AM »
I have a set of heavy duty Wiha drivers.  I like the textured finish on them, not really keen on the round body and the tips seem a little soft, but they do seem a little harder wearing than my Wera lasertips.  My favorite Wiha is the xeno driver or terminal driver (?) for electrical work.  The tip is a combination phillips and straight edge.  They engage every groove in a terminal screw and don't cam out like a phillips or straight edge might. 
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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2018, 02:27 AM »
Same here, coincidentally.   PB Swiss for most things, but I still sport Wiha's Heavy Duty Microfinish, the Xeno and the precision screwdrivers (the classic style). 
I prefer Wiha over Wera, but Wera has way better consistency, finish and quality control.   

About the COO thing.   I've got German and Czech Wera's of the same line and they're indistinguishable.  It's the same robots making them.

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« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2018, 02:42 AM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

I'd say, go for it.  Be mindful that that set goes on sale every six months or so ($99 or something in the ballpark).  I have a gajillion soft finish (and "3k" range) screwdrivers.  They're not my preference, but I prefer them over 99% of what's out there.   If you have a Festool bit holding screwdriver, that's a Wiha softfinish bit holding screwdriver. 

The handle gives you more torque than average, and you can easily over torque and break the 6 and 8 torx tips.  Be warned.  All of my small ball end screwdrivers are dead too. :0

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2018, 06:46 AM »
Thanks @yetihunter

Now I'm looking into the PB Swiss line.

I wonder if their "unlimited guarantee" covers broken tips.

Any recommendations?

I really do appreciate it. 

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2018, 07:32 AM »
I believe it does, but I’ve only broken one bit in the last 7-8 years and that was because I was doing something they were not intended to do.  I had the bit installed on a 12v impact driver, which was fine until my approach angle veered too far off of the axis of the screw.  The tip chipped.  I didn't bother contacting them, it was my doing.  But 90% of the time I reach for their ratcheting driver and 1” bits.  They fit screw heads nicely and do what they are designed to do. 
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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2018, 03:32 PM »
Thanks @yetihunter

Now I'm looking into the PB Swiss line.

I wonder if their "unlimited guarantee" covers broken tips.

Any recommendations?

I really do appreciate it. 

My Dad always said buy the best tools you can afford and you'll only buy them once.

Well, let me address the caveats: You may be underwhelmed.  They're still just screwdrivers. 
US distribution is kind of... eh...  I generally deal with Toollady (nice gals and quarterly 20-25% off sales), and then import from Werk10 as a backup.  The range is very limited.  The handles are very small.  You may not like that. (Wiha handles are much larger).

The hex keys are the bomb diggity. Both the general and the offset.   Long, of course.

But 10-20% better than Wiha at twice to three times the price. 
These Wiha's are nice: https://www.wihatools.com/on-sale/ergostar-ball-end-hex-l-key-inch-metric-22-piece-set
The "magic ring" version is wiggidy whack.
And I actually prefer Wiha t-handle hex to anything else... get ready for contradiction.... the ball ends I like only come in the magic ring flavor :0. 
https://www.wihatools.com/magicringr-ball-end-hex-metric-t-handles

I digress, back to PB Swiss.

Onto the screwdrivers:  Swissgrip.  The santoprene ones. 
You can get pretty rainbow sets, or plain red.  Whatever you prefer. 

Their phillips and pozi screwdrivers are the best in my opinion.  People rave about their slotted drivers, but I much prefer gunsmith and cabinetmaking style tips.   Coincidentally, their slotted bits are of that style.   

The torx range is good to.  Just very limited.

They make a heavy duty version of their slotted, pozi and phillips.  I do have those, too, because I'm cavalier with my finances.  Alas, they're only nice because of the heavier size and weight (still lighter than an average screwdriver).  And mostly because they're black.

Their insert and power bits are the absolute best.  All of them.  Particularly, the phillips, pozi, and hex/allen.
Best fit, best resistance to corrosion, best wear/lifespan.  For storing those bits, the red 10 slot bit strips they make are super perfect.
The actual cases that they make for those bit strips, however, are garbage.

The ratchet bit screwdriver (insider 3) is nice to have.  I like it.  I use it at least every other day.  However, I can see most people not being happy about the price compared to everything else out there. 

I don't like their t-handles. 

Their punches are super duper nice. 




Offline sigmatango

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2018, 06:06 PM »
I've joined the club of Wera worshippers.
It started by buying a mini driver set...
281829-0

Then I needed a reliable assortment of driver bits and sockets to compliment my T18...
281831-1

And on top of that, I was tired of relying on my crescent wrench...

281833-2

I am very impressed and chuffed.  And impressed...
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Offline RKA

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2018, 10:21 AM »
Their phillips and pozi screwdrivers are the best in my opinion.  People rave about their slotted drivers, but I much prefer gunsmith and cabinetmaking style tips.   Coincidentally, their slotted bits are of that style.   

@yetihunter
What is the difference between their slotted drivers and the gunsmith style tips?  I have their 1 and 2" straight bits and they have a concave grind on both sides so the part engaging the screw has a squared off profile (rather than a wedge).  I don't have any of their straight drivers, but I had assumed they would be designed in a similar fashion.  So maybe I don't understand what you mean by the gunsmith style tips?  Or maybe their drivers are machined differently than their bits?
-Raj

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2018, 01:01 PM »
Their slotted screwdrivers are machined different than their bits.

https://www.pbswisstools.com/en/tools/quality-hand-tools/screwdrivers/highlights/

I like the bits, I'm on the fence about the screwdrivers.  I hardly use either, though.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 01:03 PM by yetihunter »

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2018, 03:50 PM »
I'm seriously considering the Wiha 20 piece soft grip set.  Item #30299.  These are made in Germany.

Does anybody on FOG have Wiha screwdrivers?

How do you like them?

Well, speak of the devil.   I just got this in my e-mail today. 
$71 for the very same 20 piece set.   

Here is the link:  https://www.wihatools.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/7025/s/softfinishr-slotted-phillips-torxr-pozidriv-square-screwdriver-20-piece-set/?utm_source=Wiha+Tools+USA&utm_campaign=e1d698a818-ddjuly2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_74d51750e7-e1d698a818-28151025&mc_cid=e1d698a818&mc_eid=1f6e2b28a7

Coupon code is wtc-drivers


Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2018, 05:01 PM »
Thanks @yetihunter for the heads-up on the sale!  Just the type of set I was looking to get a good price on.  Handles look similar to the Felo 5-pc set I bought a few years ago, so hope they are just as comfortable in the hand.

Regards,
Gerald
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Offline deepcreek

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2018, 07:55 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up @yetihunter.

I took advantage of this sale as well as eBay's 15% off coupon today.

I'll post my haul on the new "Wiha Goodness" thread.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/hand-tools/some-new-wiha-goodness/
Joe Adams
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Houston, Texas

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Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2018, 08:54 PM »
Aww, you're welcome.

To answer about the Felo comparison, if you're refering to the squishy "Ergonic" line, no, they are not like that.   Just your standard overmolding (simlar to festool's DWC or PDC).  Speaking of molds, Wiha molds the handles directly onto the shank (most companies use a press to push the driver blade into the handle). 

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2018, 09:20 PM »
If you guys really want to nerd it up, I spotted the generic Bost (Facom) screwdrivers at the Festool USA HQ.  They were probably branded SK.  I think I also saw one or two Facom Ergotwist (long discontinued and same factory) screwdrivers.   

You can still find the Bost screwdrivers as Britool, Stanley (uk/europe), and maybe Draper.   But in the US, Stanley went out of their way to offer a knockoff version from China of...modern Stanley quality? :0

The Ergotwist, unfortunately, is extinct.   

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2018, 09:21 PM »
Correct- I have the Ergonic ones.  I like them not so much for their squishiness, but the size fits my hands well.  Looking forward to the Wiha- first purchase from their company- also got some t-handle hex in metric. Will post when they arrive in the Wiha thread.

Now guys, take a break posting about great hand tools- my bank account is going dry!   [scared]

Regards,
Gerald
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Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2018, 11:30 PM »
I posted this by mistake in the Wiha thread, so I will delete that post if the mods want me to. @SRSemenza

I have more Wera tools but I also have and like Whia, Knipex, and even Klein.



« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 11:35 PM by Runhard »
Daniel

Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2018, 11:38 PM »
I have more Wera tools but I also have and like Whia, Knipex, and even Klein

Where’s Oliver when we need him?

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2018, 08:23 PM »
A.) How did you get access to my sortainers?  [big grin]
B.) Forget Oliver, we've gone the full Monte.  No, really, Monte from GarageJournal.

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2018, 08:41 PM »
Correct- I have the Ergonic ones.  I like them not so much for their squishiness, but the size fits my hands well.  Looking forward to the Wiha- first purchase from their company- also got some t-handle hex in metric. Will post when they arrive in the Wiha thread.

Now guys, take a break posting about great hand tools- my bank account is going dry!   [scared]

Regards,
Gerald

Hmmm, I recall that they are smaller than the Wiha handles.  We'll see when you get them how you like (or dislike) them. 
If they don't pass the test, at least you have thousands of German, Swiss and Japanese options.

Since y'all are going full blown German hand tool; ' toolguyd4life ' is the permanent 10% coupon at KC Tool .  They've um...expanded just a tiny bit since the days they only sold Knipex and Wiha.   Be forewarned, in North America, Gedore, Hazet, and Stahwille, specifically, sell for 2 to 3 times the amount that the rest of the world pays.


Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2018, 10:53 PM »
Recent  purchase -
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2018, 10:55 AM »
Recent  purchase -

Hey @Untidy Shop , are those stainless?

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2018, 10:07 PM »
Hmmm, I recall that they are smaller than the Wiha handles.  We'll see when you get them how you like (or dislike) them. 
If they don't pass the test, at least you have thousands of German, Swiss and Japanese options.



The set arrived today- they feel similar to the Felo except no 'squishiness'.  I think they are keepers!

Thanks and Have a Great Weekend.

Gerald
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Offline yetihunter

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2018, 12:24 AM »

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2018, 12:37 PM »
Recent  purchase -
(Attachment Link)

Hey bud were those alan wrenches Imperial or Metric? I have the metric set and have been looking for the Imperial.

Nice set

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2018, 12:41 PM »
@Runhard

Nice set you have.

Good idea using a sortainer to store yer Wera stuff.

 I have a sortainainer with some empty drawer. I think Ill follow your lead and use the empty drawers to stroe and organize my Wera stuff.

Ive been reorganizing my shop and thats a great idea as I have my sortainers stored under my MFTs. It will save me a walk to the roll away.

Plus that socket set and wrench set is pretty slick.

Ill take a photo of my insulated screw driver set and post it.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #58 on: July 14, 2018, 08:59 PM »
Recent  purchase -
(Attachment Link)

Hey bud were those alan wrenches Imperial or Metric? I have the metric set and have been looking for the Imperial.

Nice set
@jobsworth
Thanks Ron.
They are metric.
You may recall I am not an ‘imperialist’.  [big grin]  [smile]

We can however get an imperial version in Australia - image from dealer website -
https://www.bunnings.com.au/search/products?q=wera&facets=BrandName%3DWERA



————————

@Cheese
Hi Cheese.
They (metric) are chrome plated. The Imperial Set is Black High Strength Tool Steel according to dealer website.
I stand to be corrected but I thought stainless steel processing weakened the strength.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2018, 09:14 PM by Untidy Shop »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #59 on: July 14, 2018, 09:04 PM »
Untidy shop

Thanks for the info. I think I found a place that should have them.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2018, 09:19 PM »
Untidy shop

Thanks for the info. I think I found a place that should have them.

Good news.

See PM.
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

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― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2018, 09:33 PM »
@Runhard

Nice set you have.

Good idea using a sortainer to store yer Wera stuff.

 I have a sortainainer with some empty drawer. I think Ill follow your lead and use the empty drawers to stroe and organize my Wera stuff.

Ive been reorganizing my shop and thats a great idea as I have my sortainers stored under my MFTs. It will save me a walk to the roll away.

Plus that socket set and wrench set is pretty slick.

Ill take a photo of my insulated screw driver set and post it.
Got the same setup and love it!
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!

Offline Cheese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2018, 11:22 AM »
Hi Cheese.
They (metric) are chrome plated. The Imperial Set is Black High Strength Tool Steel according to dealer website.
I stand to be corrected but I thought stainless steel processing weakened the strength.

Hey Untidy I just looked at the photo and they looked liked like sst. Nowadays with more tools being produced in stainless, I was just curious. You're correct though, common stainless would be more susceptible to corner rounding and bending unless it was post processed. [smile]

Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2018, 04:57 PM »
These showed up today.

Daniel

Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2018, 05:21 PM »
Nice sets!

I got the 11 piece Joker set some weeks ago and love it!

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2018, 05:52 PM »
NIIIIIICE!!!
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!

Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2018, 02:55 PM »
A few more things.  [cool]

« Last Edit: August 13, 2018, 04:07 PM by Runhard »
Daniel

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2018, 03:07 PM »
You're planning on a larger project - or complete toolbox overhaul/ tool replacement?  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

"Enjoy the madness" ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2018, 03:34 PM »
Whoa?! Why the Yellow, Green AND Red versions of the tools? Lotta duplicates in there.
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success!

Offline Cochese

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2018, 03:38 PM »
Looking at my rapidly shrinking HF screwdriver set with a Wera set. The insulated yellow/red are cheaper on Amazon than the green/black. Thoughts?

Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #70 on: August 13, 2018, 04:12 PM »
You're planning on a larger project - or complete toolbox overhaul/ tool replacement?  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

"Enjoy the madness" ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Some of the tools are for a new facility that I have coming online in October and I am going to fill up a new tool cart.
Daniel

Offline Runhard

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2018, 04:16 PM »
Whoa?! Why the Yellow, Green AND Red versions of the tools? Lotta duplicates in there.

Some things are metric, some imperial, and the yellow Wera are heavy duty. All the Red Bull tools came as a complete set. I bought all of this from KC tool and had a 10% off coupon. I building a complete new tool set for a new facility that I will manage, lots more to buy!
Daniel

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Re: Some new Wera goodness!
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2018, 05:11 PM »
A few more things.  [cool]


I see that you are opening a store. I will be right over to pick up a few things.  [big grin]

That's quite an order!

Seth