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Offline Deansocial

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #180 on: August 22, 2012, 02:31 AM »
I thought they were very nice chisels but far too heavy for me.

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« Reply #181 on: August 22, 2012, 06:50 AM »
I thought they were very nice chisels but far too heavy for me.

You need to stick to a razor for shaving ... and do it more than once a month  [wink]

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« Reply #182 on: August 22, 2012, 07:09 AM »
I thought they were very nice chisels but far too heavy for me.

You need to stick to a razor for shaving ... and do it more than once a month  [wink]

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #183 on: August 22, 2012, 10:20 AM »
I thought they were very nice chisels but far too heavy for me.

You need to stick to a razor for shaving ... and do it more than once a month  [wink]

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« Reply #184 on: August 22, 2012, 12:43 PM »
I thought they were very nice chisels but far too heavy for me.

You need to stick to a razor for shaving ... and do it more than once a month  [wink]

Never have never will, i would have a bushy beard if it wasnt for the missus

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #185 on: September 08, 2012, 11:28 AM »
Just got a set of these. Am so impressed with them. they are to replace my knackered marples set I bought 23 years ago!

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/3253561167935%20STA116793%201-16-793%20Sweetheart%20Socket%20Chisel%20Set%20of%208

FFX gave me the best price too.....


Use this mallet with them http://www.classichandtools.com/acatalog/Mallets.html  (The top ones green head! fantastic)
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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #186 on: September 08, 2012, 12:07 PM »
Just got a set of these. Am so impressed with them. they are to replace my knackered marples set I bought 23 years ago!

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/3253561167935%20STA116793%201-16-793%20Sweetheart%20Socket%20Chisel%20Set%20of%208

FFX gave me the best price too.....


Use this mallet with them http://www.classichandtools.com/acatalog/Mallets.html  (The top ones green head! fantastic)

Ordering one of those Mallets see wa its like getting 30oz

not sure if I should get the 12oz also?!?!

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #188 on: September 08, 2012, 03:56 PM »
Just a question some one might know the answer or tell me I'm talking crap .

I have had my harold & Saxon for a bit now!   On the first day I had them out on site it was dead hot and the sun was shining directly on the leather pouch.    [crying] when I came to get my chisels out  they where wet,  they had started to rust  slightly and looked like they had water marks on them when I wiped the water off  [mad]

So I thought okay maybe the leather is new and it's just sweating moisture.


Now the other day it happend again!  BUT I store 3 of my marble chisels with them now in the pouch  and they where not wet when I took them out of the pouch all 3 where dry But all 6 harold and Saxon ones where wet.

Now my question do certain types of metal cause sweating of the leather or something?  Cus can't make sense of it.


Really angry cus takes ages to clean the chisels so they look nice and shiny and new again.

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Offline Deansocial

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #189 on: September 08, 2012, 04:02 PM »
Can of lynx on them maybe

Offline jmbfestool

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« Reply #190 on: September 08, 2012, 04:12 PM »
Can of lynx on them maybe

Yeah prevention would be da solution but wa I am saying is why are they getting water sitting ontop of them in the pouch. And the marple ones didn't?

Also if it was a commen problem people wouldn't use leather pouches would they?  Cus I mean they have a puddle of water sittin on them when I get them out.

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Offline Mattywhit

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #191 on: September 08, 2012, 04:14 PM »
Will it not be condensation. I'm guessing marples are lacquered and  Saxon are bare metal.

Offline Deansocial

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« Reply #192 on: September 08, 2012, 04:16 PM »
Will it not be condensation. I'm guessing marples are lacquered and  Saxon are bare metal.

Wont be that as the backs of the marples wont be laquered

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #193 on: September 08, 2012, 04:25 PM »
no idea properly weird....... keep them slathered in camelia oil at least the will not rust
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« Reply #194 on: September 08, 2012, 04:33 PM »
Will it not be condensation. I'm guessing marples are lacquered and  Saxon are bare metal.

What Dean said backs won't be.

The chisels sit in the pouch back up and that's where the water sits.

If it happens again I'll take a picture
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« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2012, 05:14 PM »
thats odd jmb. maybe you are drooling over the fancy ones and not over the marpels
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« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2012, 06:28 PM »
thats odd jmb. maybe you are drooling over the fancy ones and not over the marpels

haa  [laughing]

Getting light rust off is easy with chrome polish and an old sock. Works fast and easy.
After removing the rust a light coat of camelia oil will help keeping your tools rust free.

Try another sort of protection case...?

Offline jmbfestool

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« Reply #197 on: September 09, 2012, 09:13 AM »
Well I left my chisels in the sun 2 day for few hours!  Unfortunately they must of dried out or something because when I pulled them out the pouch they where dry  but the water has done the damage as you can see in the picture both chisels in the picture have rust on them.  
It wasnt dead hot to day I suppose like the other days I left them in the sun maybe thats they maybe weren't still wet and the rust if a lot less than the other times it happened.  Again my marples ones where fine nothing on them.
 

This was only a few hours in the sun any way . I cant believe this wouldnt be more common especially seen as they are made in a country which has ALOT of sun!

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #198 on: September 09, 2012, 09:54 AM »
This may be a weird suggestion, but please bare with me.  The metal is not porous or anything special, it it your climate and the leather that is absorbing moisture and then it is condensing on the metal.  Your chisels are more valuable than the leather.  Try saturating just one of your chisel slots with the camellia oil.  Then see if that one reacts differently than the others.  If the leather is saturated with oil it will not be able to absorb the moisture.

Peter

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« Reply #199 on: September 09, 2012, 10:45 AM »
This may be a weird suggestion, but please bare with me.  The metal is not porous or anything special, it it your climate and the leather that is absorbing moisture and then it is condensing on the metal.  Your chisels are more valuable than the leather.  Try saturating just one of your chisel slots with the camellia oil.  Then see if that one reacts differently than the others.  If the leather is saturated with oil it will not be able to absorb the moisture.

Peter

I know what your saying and I'll try that thank you.  But why are my Marples not getting damp/wet? In the same leather pouch?  That's what I'm not understanding. 

It don't mater just curious really. Thought some might know.

   To be fair it won't be keeping them in the Leather pouch for ever because I wanna make something like a foam insert and have them in a sortainer just gotta get of my arse and do it.
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« Reply #200 on: September 09, 2012, 11:23 AM »
Are the Marples actually in the same exact pouch or in another leather pouch?  I know that a set of chisels I got long ago was indeed coated with a clear coating to prevent rust so maybe as others have suggested that is the difference.  If you don't want to possibly ruin your other leather in an experiment, let me know the width of one of your chisels along with the length of the blade and your tool belt width and I will make you a separate holder for that chisel and send it to you for you to try.   [big grin]

Just a little thank you for all the entertainment and knowledge you have provided here to me.

Peter
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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #201 on: September 09, 2012, 01:12 PM »
lol

More knowledge than entertainment......  [tongue]

That be cool I can carry 1 of the chisel on me for when I am on a ladder or awkward place,  cheers!

The marples are in the exact same pouch.   The pouch has storage for 9 chisels 6 of them are H&S  and the other 3 are marples.  I carry the marples with the H&S only because I know I can be a little naughty with chisels some times and I might be tempted using my H&S where I shouldnt be using them so having the marples with the H&S I have no excuse for using my best chisels for situations I should be using marples. 


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« Reply #202 on: September 09, 2012, 01:38 PM »
sounds like a good plan
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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #203 on: September 09, 2012, 01:50 PM »
It just has to be the leather pouch causing the problem although I then can't explain absolutely no moisture on the Marples chisels.  

I don't like leather pouches or even bench plane socks -- I like to be able to see what condition my tools are at all times.  With a little thought you could build a handy wooden holder of a sort that would travel to job sites well.  Perhaps along the line of a wooden tray w/removable lid.

I've nearly soaked plane socks with camellia oil and later found traces of rust starting.  I'm one of those people that has a lot of acid on my hands that causes precision tools to rust, sometimes overnight.

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« Reply #204 on: September 09, 2012, 02:10 PM »
Those chisels were made "Down Under" where everything is upside down.  Put them in your pouch upside down and your problem will be solved [poke]
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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #205 on: September 09, 2012, 09:44 PM »
Ron,

Try jojoba oil instead of camelia oil. I bought it because I could not find camelia oil and am really happy with it. It's a little heavier than camelia oil but I haven't had a single spot of rust appear on any tool since I began using it.

I keep a polishing cloth in a tin and I squirt a little oil on it from time to time. Stays good for ages.

Richard.

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #206 on: September 09, 2012, 10:11 PM »
Ron,

Try jojoba oil instead of camelia oil. I bought it because I could not find camelia oil and am really happy with it. It's a little heavier than camelia oil but I haven't had a single spot of rust appear on any tool since I began using it.

I keep a polishing cloth in a tin and I squirt a little oil on it from time to time. Stays good for ages.

Richard.


Roy Underhill got me using mutton tallow mixed with beeswax on my edged tools (planes, chisels, saws, etc.) -- so far no problems with rust and it really makes the tools glide through cuts.  It's not pretty to look at but it sure serves it's purpose.

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Re: High Quality Chisels
« Reply #207 on: September 09, 2012, 10:22 PM »
Does your workshop smell of lamb chops?
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« Reply #208 on: September 09, 2012, 10:29 PM »
Does your workshop smell of lamb chops?
 :)

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