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Hi all,

I thought I start a thread to collect all of my smaller projects, small day to day tasks and so on.


So I posted some tool reviews and now I think it's time to show some of the stuff I have done over time. Please keep in mind that I'm not a professional by any means, I do not offer services or sell stuff of any kind to 3rd parties - everything I do is solely for my personal projects.

Preface to this is as follows: I was remodeling my basement and put tiling on all floors, to gain space I moved the doors out - they had to be cut anyway. You will notice that this is a pretty old and cheapish door, the problem in my basement is that not 2 doors come at the same size - they are all different. Since these doors serve no real purposes for me I decided against having new ones build. Then, after moving the doors a few times around I left one standing upright by accident - of course a little wind came up and blew that door right to the ground. Of course it didn't fell flat to the ground but into something pointy that destroyed a nice section of the door leaf.

Taking into consideration what I wrote above - I couldn't simply buy a new one - and if I had someone custom build it for me, I would have wanted all doors to look alike. So I decided to repair it myself - after all, it's just a basement room door.

Stupid me didn't take a picture of the damaged door leaf, so we start with a picture where I had already cut out the damaged portion and put in a piece of MDF. The cut was made with a Multicutter and I glued in a support structure made from wood dowels for the little piece of MDF.



Next I applied wood filler



Then started the process of sanding. (Of course I used a dust extractor during sanding)



more sanding



And then the final layer of paint.



Personally I think this turned out pretty well, not so "Quick and dirty" after all and might be an Idea if you face a problem similar to mine.

During normal lighting you won't see no see the formerly affected portion - if you search for it under direct lighting you can find a fine line on the right side.

Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: October 31, 2015, 11:50 AM by SRSemenza »

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six-point socket

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Don't know where to post 'em, so I'll add them here. Some pictures from today. (Installing some Kupa pipe, new outlet...)







Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: September 19, 2015, 04:36 PM by six-point socket »

six-point socket

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Still don't know where, or even if I should little pictures like this, but anyway.

Installed a new outlet for a stand mixer, used the CXS to drill through the tiles, then the Bosch to drill into the wall, and then again the CXS to fasten the outlet's screws. The other stuff was used for the electrical work that had to be done.



Kind regards,
Oli-bakingsnickerdoodles-ver

six-point socket

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So here are a few pictures from my basement renovation earlier this year.

The room serves as dry-food storage and additionally houses a freezer and a 2nd fridge.

First I wanted to make the very ugly insulation of some remaining heating pipes disappear, secondly I wanted more light in the room.





Love working outdoors, even well before spring.



Not so easy when you have to work around a running fridge and freezer



Almost done.



Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Cheese

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Looks good Oliver, huge improvement.  [thumbs up]

Are those recessed lights LED's and if so who makes them? They seem nice and thin and seem to produce a lot of light.

Liebherr...that brand just became available locally about 2-3 years ago.

six-point socket

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Hi Cheese,

thanks! :)

Honestly, I have no idea who the manufacturer of those recessed lights, or better, the "housing" is. I had them lying around from another project. I originally put them in a self made wooden holder to light up a wall in my home theater from behind a couch. When I remodeled that room, I went for a professional solution but never threw the lights away, thought I could use them. Turns out to be true, so I used them for my basement renovation/remodeling.

The lamp/illuminant itself is indeed LED. It's manufactured by Osram -> LED STAR MR16 35 36° 5 W/827 GU5.3 http://www.osram.com/osram_com/products/led-technology/lamps/professional-led-reflector-lamps/parathom-mr16/index.jsp

Fit's all standard housings, but need's quite a bit of height.

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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During basement remodeling I had just finished the installation of a new light in one of the basement's hallways and basically all I was left to do with was cleaning two old outlets.



Of course, that would have been to easy. Basically out of nowhere, the announcement of a new hallway cupboard came from my significant other.

So the light had to travel to the ceiling above. Since I didn't know if there were any additional wires in that wall (it has outlets on the other side, too...) I started to search for live wires and safe places for my pipe clamps. You can also see a small, although purely "optical", mistake I made. I should have drilled a hole in the backside of that small junction box, instead of getting the existing wires (power supply) in from above. Would have been a cleaner look.



Then moved the light to the ceiling.



Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 03:25 PM by six-point socket »

Offline tjbnwi

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Next time you have to do a surface mount raceway look at using Wiremold.

Tom

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Did a quick search on Wiremold - definitely an interesting product, legrand seems to have quite a few nice products! I will consider it if I ever have to install a visible raceway outside my basement. (I'm not a big fan of visible raceways...) Do you now if Wiremold/legrand stuff is rated for use with 240V?

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Found another picture taken while setting up that cupboard.



Kind regards,
Oliver


Offline tjbnwi

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Did a quick search on Wiremold - definitely an interesting product, legrand seems to have quite a few nice products! I will consider it if I ever have to install a visible raceway outside my basement. (I'm not a big fan of visible raceways...) Do you now if Wiremold/legrand stuff is rated for use with 240V?

Kind regards,
Oliver

All are rated for line voltage except the low voltage line of Wiremold.

Tom

six-point socket

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Thanks! :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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Hiring a pro.

So after installing sheetrock myself in the storage-room, I decided I would hire a pro to do the basement's hallways. What I can say is that I will be much more careful who I'm hiring in future.

Here's one of the episodes that left rather amused, than actually angry.

So, I told the pro that I would install 2 switches, 2 single switches. I drilled corresponding holes into the wall to make additional space for my installation needs. (I would have marked the center of the holes I need on the sheetrock, but my pro insisted that wasn't necessary, he knows how to meet the holes...)

Well, the result:



Of course, he didn't meet the holes and also didn't leave enough space between the holes for two single switches.

I rectified this myself after all was done and the guy out the house.



Kind regards,
Oliver


« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 04:20 PM by six-point socket »

Offline Cheese

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Hi Oliver,
I have a question for you. Is it common in Germany/Europe to use the screw barrier terminals to connect wires together? As per your picture in a previous post.

232117-0

In the states, we've used wire nuts for years and increasingly I am now using the Wago push-in connectors or Wago lever connectors.

232119-1

232121-2

232123-3

six-point socket

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Hi Cheese,

There are a couple different answers to that. :)

If you, like me, life in an old house built in 60'ties you will encounter a lot of those screw barrier terminals. It is what was used.

Today, and I'm speaking solely for Germany here, those screw barrier terminals are solely permitted for the installation/connection of lights. (Hence their German name "Luesterklemme/Lüsterklemme" "Luester" or "Lüster" = chandelier and "Klemme" = connector) (And as you can see in that picture, I installed a light :) ) The, lets call it basic variant of these screw barrier terminals is not rated for higher amps. (Only between 2,5 - 6 Amps which is suitable for lighting, as the lamp/illuminant limits the drawn amps)

Now it get's tricky because basically the same product, although rated for higher amps, exists under a different German name: "Dosenklemme" -> "Dose" = junction box "Klemme" = connector. Those may be used for other applications than lighting.

Personally I install lighting with the correct screw barrier terminal and make sure no wires are exposed/screws are fitted correctly. I rarely use the the junction-box type for other applications, if I do, same caution is applied as with the others.

As you, I do prefer Wago connectors for all lasting connections. If installed correctly, they offer the crucial benefit of having no exposed parts that could conduct electricity/current whereas screw barrier terminals (under certain circumstances) do.

I'd say, nowadays Wago is far more common than screw barrier terminals (except for lighting). And Besides safety, they are quicker and easier to install, too. All pros I know, use them - so do I.

I've seen wire nuts, but have not found one in my house.

Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: November 02, 2015, 10:55 AM by six-point socket »

Offline Cheese

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Thanks for the answer Oliver, it seems that even the rules and regulations in Germany can be dodgy at times. [eek]

So the Lüsterklemme and the Dosenklemme look alike but have different amperage ratings. Are there any exterior markings to differentiate the 2 connectors?

Why wouldn't you just use Wagos on lighting instead of the Lüsterklemme?

six-point socket

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Oh, absolutely  [eek] [scared] ;)

Well, foremost it's habit and convenience. Convenience because a lot of the wiring coming out of the walls and ceilings is pretty short, because they have been cut at least once or twice during the lifetime of this house, so I didn't want to use the "permanent" Wago connectors, chances are high the wires break if you have to remove them for whatever reason, and then it gets really iffy. In many instances there is not a lot of space, so you can't simply add some extensions, which would then require 2 Wago connectors per line. Of course, now with the Wago lever connectors that isn't an real issue anymore.

As a rule of thumb: if it has 2 screws it's generally a "Lüsterklemme", if it has 1 screw it's a "Dosenklemme".

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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Picture especially taken for @Cheese  [big grin]



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The Festool collection grows... CTL SYS arrived today.



Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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Today's two small projects.

1st repairing the outlets on my patio.

2nd preparing christmas decorations.

So, after removing a plant on my patio, the outlets close by became loose and I had to make a new tray for them.

Setup. ;)



The situation.



Checking if the outlets can be re-used. (1)



Checking if the outlets can be re-used. (2)



Preparing to cut my tray.



Countersinking, back.



Countersinking, front.



Fitting to wall, after having cleaned the outlets.



Finished.



Now the second part. I bought three lanterns I want to setup in front of the house sometimes after Thanksgiving - since the lanterns are very lightweight and could easily fall over or get stolen, I bought round stone plates to affix them to.

Setup. ;)



Drilling through the baseplates of the lanterns.



Drilling the stones.



M6x30.



Finished lanterns.



Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Staniam

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What a cool thread to read while sitting at the dinning table to eat breakfast and drink my coffee. It's cool to see little home DIY projects on here. I love that 12v Bosch drill, every time I see it in think about getting it again and replacing my CXS with it  [eek]. I just love how compact and smooth it is. Kind of big words considering how in love I am with the CXS.

Keep posting pictures!
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Offline Alex

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I hope you used outdoor cable in your new set up to connect the two boxes, because using the single insulated wire is not according to specs.


Offline tjbnwi

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I hope you used outdoor cable in your new set up to connect the two boxes, because using the single insulated wire is not according to specs.

(Attachment Link)

I don't see a space/gap between the boxes. How does this affect the cable used? Here it would not be considered exposed so outdoor cable would not be required. Of course the feeder cable would have to be outdoor rated.

Tom

six-point socket

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Used H05RN-F 3G1,5 mm² for the internal wiring and connection. Supply cable is something similar, don't have it's specs at hand.

Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: November 08, 2015, 02:05 PM by six-point socket »

Offline Alex

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I don't see a space/gap between the boxes. How does this affect the cable used? Here it would not be considered exposed so outdoor cable would not be required. Of course the feeder cable would have to be outdoor rated.

Just butting two boxes against each other is not a water tight seal and doesn't count as such legally. In practice it probably won't do any harm the way it is done now, just pointing out it is not according to official specs. 

Offline tjbnwi

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I don't see a space/gap between the boxes. How does this affect the cable used? Here it would not be considered exposed so outdoor cable would not be required. Of course the feeder cable would have to be outdoor rated.

Just butting two boxes against each other is not a water tight seal and doesn't count as such legally. In practice it probably won't do any harm the way it is done now, just pointing out it is not according to official specs.

Here we can get a sealed connector for that.

Tom

Offline Wuffles

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Picture especially taken for @Cheese  [big grin]

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Kind regards,
Oliver

Once you go Wago. Love them.

Interesting fact btw, I once met an electrician who swore blind they were single use (the push in ones) because you can't just pull them out. Idiot.
Tool list updated to reflect knowledge :: hammer, screwdriver, one pozi bit, and another bigger hammer.

Offline Cheese

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@Wuffles
He was right, you can't pull the wires out if you pull them straight out of the Wago, it's like a Chinese finger puzzle, but if you walk the wires out from side to side and kind of unscrew them they'll come out without damaging the connector or wire.

@six-point socket
Thanx for the personal photo...I owe you one. [big grin]

Offline Wuffles

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@Wuffles
He was right, you can't pull the wires out if you pull them straight out of the Wago, it's like a Chinese finger puzzle, but if you walk the wires out from side to side and kind of unscrew them they'll come out without damaging the connector or wire.

No mate, I know that, I mean he was cutting them off and throwing them away after one use with the stubs of wire still sticking out.

Pull and twist they come out easily, or if you have a single wire with a short length, just turn it, pops straight out. Which you also know, so don't know why I'm saying it.
Tool list updated to reflect knowledge :: hammer, screwdriver, one pozi bit, and another bigger hammer.

Offline Cheese

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No mate, I know that, I mean he was cutting them off and throwing them away after one use with the stubs of wire still sticking out.


Maybe he owned Wago stock... [eek]

Offline CrazyLarry

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Picture especially taken for @Cheese  [big grin]

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Kind regards,
Oliver

Once you go Wago. Love them.

Interesting fact btw, I once met an electrician who swore blind they were single use (the push in ones) because you can't just pull them out. Idiot.

He's right in a way ... sounds like he would be single use :)

Offline richy3333

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A 'spark' who was working on a site I was on, but not working with me was given some 3 port Wagos. He proceeded to push the line, neutral and CPC all into the one Wago. He couldn't fathom the tripping when the power was turned on again!

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A 'spark' who was working on a site I was on, but not working with me was given some 3 port Wagos. He proceeded to push the line, neutral and CPC all into the one Wago. He couldn't fathom the tripping when the power was turned on again!

lol  [eek] [eek] [eek] ;D ;D ;D

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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Decided to make a little roof for my outlets...

Setup. LOVE the CTL-SYS!!!  [eek] [eek] [eek] ;D ;D ;D



Measuring.



Cut.



Fitting.



Overview.



Roofing felt.



Attached.



The Bosch felt neglected and insisted to get in the picture... ;)



Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 11:09 AM by six-point socket »

six-point socket

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Quick'n'dirty repair job for my CXS aka more CXS fun  [eek] [scared] [big grin] - I guess next year I have to replace the complete patio of my garden shed.  [scared] [scared]  [eek]  [big grin]



old screws out.



cutting replacement panels to length.



new screws in.

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket

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Hi!

Yesterday was the day I replaced my old attic ladder with a new, quality product one from Dolle. Obviously I used a couple of tools for that, some Festool - some not.

Old attic ladder. (what you can't see in this picture is that this ladder has been fixed numerous times on the lowest steps, and I deemed it to be to dangerous for any further use)



Getting it out. I had to remove a lot of rusted 10 mm nuts, an impact driver is worth it's weight in gold during this type of work.





Only the frame left.



Up until this point everything went as planned and was one smooth ride. The bolts you are about to see in the next picture, I thought they were used to hold the old frame in place and and load bearing. To get them out, I removed the nut and washer, placed my ratcheting box end wrench on the bolt, re-applied a nut and the washer in front of it, then used a 2nd nut to lock it. That worked fantastic until I realized that I was just spinning the whole bolt. I tried with another bolt - same thing.



I decided to remove the frame with a pry bar then. That did the trick. What you can see in that following picture is part of the hole in the ceiling where the frame was. If you examine it closely you will see that the original builder of the house had small blocks of wood installed, I guess while the slab was poured. Now you might ask what the bolts were for. When I got everything out with the pry bar I noticed that those bolts were used to center/align the frame. The frame was then nailed into place - and the only thing bearing the load were those nails.



Then, to install the new attic ladder I needed 2 pieces of wood that would hold the new frame and align it with the ceiling. Drilling the holes with my CXS.



Of course, the ceiling needed some holes, too. The CTL-SYS with the drilling attachment came in very handy.



Using the CXS and the angle attachment to remove the ladder from the frame of the new attic ladder.



Drilling of the new frame with the CXS.



Frame in place, ladder installed.



Almost finished. (To be continued.)



Today I relaxed, had a lazy day and just poured a small slab of concrete for a to be installed water tap.





Kind regards, and as always I hope you enjoy my postings.
Oliver

Offline Holmz

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Of course, the ceiling needed some holes, too. The CTL-SYS with the drilling attachment came in very handy.

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Kind regards, and as always I hope you enjoy my postings.
Oliver

@six-point socket -Oliver .
That drill dust sucker-upper looks nice. What is the Festool number of it?
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

six-point socket

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Hi Holmz,

Festool# is: 500483

https://www.festool.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=500483

Great accessory for sure! :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Insulation.





Rough leveling.



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Placing hammer set anchors in my slab for the water tap.



Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Holmz

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Placing hammer set anchors in my slab for the water tap.

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Kind regards,
Oliver

They (the local bolt supply) sell a nut insert that can be cast in concrete. When I used them once in the past I put a nylon bolt in it and some wax to seal the ends.
But you can install them on a board to have the hole pattern ideal and "smash it" into the wet concrete.
It doesn't do anything too much better than a ramset type of concrete bolt, but it is an option.
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

six-point socket

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Hi!

Thanks for the info @Holmz :)

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Finished water tap.



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Then I posted in the "What Festool did you buy today"-Thread a couple of days ago that I had fished a Festo DX 93 E out of ebay for some pocket change. I was up very early, I think around 4 AM and found the auction running until 6:45 AM. No bid yet, starting bid was 80,00 Euro / 89,00 USD. This was the picture from the auction - no further description except for that it was in working condition.



I guess that held a lot of people from bidding. I saw that the front portion of the sander was damaged - checked EKAT and bid on it. I was eager to make something from it/with it. Got it for 81,00 Euro / 91,00 USD + shipping 7,00 Euro / 8,00 USD.

This 88,00 Euro / 98,00 USD got me this:







Tool works as expected.

As I was aware of the condition I ordered: 488899 for 18,00 Euro / 20,00 USD and 488716 for 17,00 Euro / 19,00 USD - I did not order the also defective plate (Part 26) because I wanted to be sure of the Model# first.



Disassembly and throughout cleaning.





Current situation: cleaned and in working condition - turned out pretty nicely - waiting on Festool to deliver Part 26, which I ordered today for 10,00 Euro / 11,00 USD plus 3,50 Euro / 4,00 USD shipping and should be here by tomorrow or Saturday. Current total: 136,50 Euro / 152,00 USD. The fun I'm having: priceless. :)



After work snack. :)



Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Holmz

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That water tap is nice.
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

six-point socket

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Thanks! :)

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Festool delivered spare part 26 in less than 24h... AMAZING!



Installed. DX 93 E finished.



Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline neilc

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Nice repair and a good deal!

Offline Cheese

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Hey Oliver...Love the water tap, I may need to borrow that idea from you. [cool]

Also, real nice job on the restoration of the DX 93, she looked a bit rough in the original photos.

six-point socket

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@neilc & @Cheese  Thank you very much! :)

For the record I have to admit that the water tap itself was not my idea/work, I saw it and bought it from a German company: "bellissa Haas GmbH" -> http://www.bellissa.de/index.html

If you make one Cheese, I definitely would love to see it :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Cheese

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Hey Oliver,
I'll definitely make one because I've been looking at the big box stores and really don't like what they have to offer. Because the location of the installed faucet is not protected, the faucet has to be very robust and must withstand the daily abuse of children, dogs and anyone else that happens to come by.

Interestingly enough, a few years ago I built a concrete bench from some leftover concrete blocks and a cement slab so that the passersby could sit down and relax and just enjoy the view or have a picnic. However, one day as I drove down the alley, I noticed that the bench was being dismantled and the local 10-12 year old delinquents were trying to roll the pieces down the embankment and onto the railroad tracks.  [jawdrop]
Like I said...robust it needs to be.

Offline DB10

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  Hey Oliver, Great bit of bargain hunting going on there.
 I'm also very impressed with the 24hr parts delivery from Festool for 3.5 euro. I tend to forget how everything is so more automated in Europe. Sevice like that unfortunately down here just doesn't exist, we have to be very patient people, last parts I ordered up took over three weeks to turn up, and I had to drive to collect them. We have to plan ahead and usually have a few different projects on the go.

Offline Holmz

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Interestingly enough, a few years ago I built a concrete bench from some leftover concrete blocks and a cement slab so that the passersby could sit down and relax and just enjoy the view or have a picnic. However, one day as I drove down the alley, I noticed that the bench was being dismantled and the local 10-12 year old delinquents were trying to roll the pieces down the embankment and onto the railroad tracks.  [jawdrop]
Like I said...robust it needs to be.

Do they sell hungry pitbulls in the cities?
I ain't no mathematician but i have some negative and positive screwdrivers
I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

Offline Cheese

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Do they sell hungry pitbulls in the cities?

That's a thought... [smile]

So...after I retrieved all of the concrete blocks from the RR tracks (they couldn't push the bench top down the hill because it weighs 120-130#), I decided to pay their parents a visit.
I politely described the situation but was told, that their children would n e v e r do anything like that...and besides the children didn't have enough time to do it because "they just returned from Bible Camp a few hours ago."  [huh] [huh]

Offline Kev

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Do they sell hungry pitbulls in the cities?

That's a thought... [smile]

So...after I retrieved all of the concrete blocks from the RR tracks (they couldn't push the bench top down the hill because it weighs 120-130#), I decided to pay their parents a visit.
I politely described the situation but was told, that their children would n e v e r do anything like that...and besides the children didn't have enough time to do it because "they just returned from Bible Camp a few hours ago."  [huh] [huh]

Video on your phone .. forget the parents, just engage the police. A stunt the derails a train could kill a lot of people.

Delinquency like that shows there's something really sick and evil in those children. What's next? [eek]

Parents never see the bad in their children until it's too late .. unfortunately that's a fact.

@Cheese

six-point socket

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Hi!

@Cheese It's always sad when one builds something for the general public of the town, and then some crazies (minors or not...) try to pull it apart / destroy it. And even worse that they would really try to put concrete blocks on a RR track...

When I read you went to their parents I already thought they would deny their kids did it... Even bringing out the bible camp...  [eek]  [scared]  [big grin]

@DB10

Thank you very much and I'm sorry to hear it's such a trouble getting Festool spare parts in Australia. If there is ever anything you need to have in really short time, let me know - I'm an UPS and DHL customer myself, so when Festool delivers within 24 hrs to me, I can have it in another 24 to 48 hrs at your door/site if necessary, of course shipping will be a little more on the $$$ side then - but sometimes downtime is even more expensive. Just let me know if the need should ever arise.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline DB10

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@six-point socket Thanks Oliver for the kind offer it is much appreciated.

Offline Holmz

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That's a thought... [smile]

So...after I retrieved all of the concrete blocks from the RR tracks (they couldn't push the bench top down the hill because it weighs 120-130#), I decided to pay their parents a visit.
I politely described the situation but was told, that their children would n e v e r do anything like that...and besides the children didn't have enough time to do it because "they just returned from Bible Camp a few hours ago."  [huh] [huh]

The Lord works in strange ways.

These large wire jobs with the rocks also make attractive walls.
I am not sure how they would work where there is snow and frost.
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I ain't no pilot but i have some planes.
I ain't no sucker but i have a vacuum.
And I has me some saws, and some sandpapers.

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"Home improvement" from the spectator's side is really, really hard for me, it makes me wanna grab a tool and do something. Maybe someone finds this type of work interesting - so I thought I'd cover it here in my thread.

Preface: Our city's mayor along with other elected individuals from the city council and the heads of our electricity/gas supplier decided they would step up their game and also offer "multimedia"-services (Internet, Phone, TV ...) And, lets say because our Mayor made some moves that could be discussed most diversely depending on "who" you are - the city has a lot of money right now.

In fact so much, that everyone who signed up is getting a fiber optic cable right into his basement and a handover point installed for free. You can then decide if at some point you want to switch over to their services or stay with what you have. Anyway - this is a no brainer as it adds value to the house/property - so I said they could do it. Additionally, for a grand they connect you to the gas line if you want - you have then 10 years to replace your current oil-fired heating with a gas heating. Also a no brainer - regularly it costs 2.5 grands and it's not going to get cheaper over the years - so I said again: Do your thing... ;)

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Today they started by placing plastic tubes from the sidewalk (public property) to/into my property for the optical fiber cable.

I came from the bakery this morning to find this:





Then they rolled in a little compressor




And some strange looking tubes and tool




I guess it's a pretty robust tool




Here's a video how it works, please excuse the babbling in the background, not me.... https://sendvid.com/n2oyprha

Then the first outer tube is inserted




Followed by a second tube


A little loop is placed in the hole and everything back filled up and closed


This is now rolled, waiting for the other team.


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It's 5 AM here right now, and I guess at 8 AM civil engineers will arrive and dig another, much larger hole for the gas tubes and connection. I don't know, but I hope they will leave everything that was done yesterday intact - otherwise it would be a profound waste of time... but I have no real say in this. lol. I'm just the spectator...

If there's some interested I will add more of this to this thread.

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Are the dark pavers all just the public footpath? Have they started to dig into your property yet?

Kev.

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Hi,

Yes, everything dark = public. Grass = my property. So they dug one hole where the tubing comes out on my property already.

But wait for tonight, this is becoming pure slapstic - they are busy now, I have to watch closely, so I'm off again.

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Hi!

I'm at a loss for words, at least a little.

Yesterday two guys came and put the fiber optic cable in the ground with their special tool. You can find the pictures and video posted above.

Today two civil engineers came to lay the gas tubing in the ground.

Please keep in mind these sub-contractors work all for the same client who schedules everything.

Who finds the "mistake"? Still lolling about this - basically unbelievable. 2 people have wasted a complete day yesterday.







Kind regards,
Oliver
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So let me guess..

Yesterday the guys with the special tool showed up and managed to get the line installed without having to dig a trench.   The gas line guys came in today and had to dig a trench in the same spot as the fiber line. So the fiber line was taken out, the gas line put in and then the fiber line was placed back into the trench.... 

Timing is everything... And unfortunately I also see integration of services not always work out.  Something always gets done at least twice.. [blink]

Been enjoying your posts.

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In our local council when work on a paved footpath happens, the pavers are taken up .. they vanish .. the work is done, then covered in black tar. Many months later someone will come along, dig up the black tar and replace it with new pavers.

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While you're right in thinking it's a complete waste, sometimes scheduling in an additional dependency for the fiber guys to drop the cable when the gas line is being run (for those residents that opted in) can be problematic. But if most residents opted in, yes, you would think there is an opportunity to save money...unless the mayor paid way too much and the contractor doesn't really care because they are getting well paid.

Who knows what the real story is!  But it's good for a laugh as long as my taxes aren't paying for it (then I cry).  :)
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I like to see the process.

Two questions:
1) What are the two small copper looking lines running perpendicular to your property?

2) More of an observation, I like these blocks, I have not seen them before. Seems they would make curved walls pretty easy to construct...




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Hi!

So let me guess..

Yesterday the guys with the special tool showed up and managed to get the line installed without having to dig a trench.   The gas line guys came in today and had to dig a trench in the same spot as the fiber line. So the fiber line was taken out, the gas line put in and then the fiber line was placed back into the trench.... 

Timing is everything... And unfortunately I also see integration of services not always work out.  Something always gets done at least twice.. [blink]

Been enjoying your posts.

Thank you! And yes, you nailed it. Still laughing when I think about it... :)

In our local council when work on a paved footpath happens, the pavers are taken up .. they vanish .. the work is done, then covered in black tar. Many months later someone will come along, dig up the black tar and replace it with new pavers.

Sounds interesting! Here, at least on those sites I have seen, the pavers are stored neatly on site (if space permits I got to add, I have seen them stored in containers and drove off) and after completion of the work re-installed.

While you're right in thinking it's a complete waste, sometimes scheduling in an additional dependency for the fiber guys to drop the cable when the gas line is being run (for those residents that opted in) can be problematic. But if most residents opted in, yes, you would think there is an opportunity to save money...unless the mayor paid way too much and the contractor doesn't really care because they are getting well paid.

Who knows what the real story is!  But it's good for a laugh as long as my taxes aren't paying for it (then I cry).  :)

I can imagine that - and I'm really not mad or anything - just funny because it happened exactly 24h after. Possible that in other streets the fiber cable was run, connected, and then the gas guys came weeks later... :)

I like to see the process.

Two questions:
1) What are the two small copper looking lines running perpendicular to your property?

2) More of an observation, I like these blocks, I have not seen them before. Seems they would make curved walls pretty easy to construct...

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1) Cable TV and phone main lines. (And if you look closely in the corner of your marking you see a red brick, beneath that is the main power line.)

2) Those are basically planting pots. Direct translation would be "planting ring" (Pflanzring) -> http://www.hornbach.de/shop/Pflanzring-LusoFlor-Grau-48x38x30-cm/5231919/artikel.html made from concrete. You can use them to hold back a slope: http://www.kann.de/files/downloads/aufbauanleitung_pflanzwandsteine_603_37c126.pdf

But I don't think they are legal/allowed to be used for "real" construction - at least I have never seen it being used for that.

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Hi!

I decided to re-join Instagram: @the_black_tie_diyer

Has a little bit of everything "me". ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Suggestion - if you choose to use Wiremold surface-mount conduit (or any other form of EMT), be absolutely sure to de-burr the cut edges before you pull in the wiring. 
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Hi!

I've been quite for a couple of days as things have been pretty busy around here and early Monday morning work continued on the fiber optic and gas handover points.

Around 7 AM two workers showed up to drill through my basements outer wall and to install the handover points.

They brought the smallest SDS-Max type rotary hammer from DeWalt along with Hilti drill bit and core drill bit. I felt sorry for the machine, the chuck and drill bits were dry as f*rts, some unidentifiable thick black liquid dripped out of the gearings... Clearly not the right tool for the job - but they had nothing else - and I was surely not giving them my 5 KG SDS-max rotary hammer after seeing how poorly they treat their tools.













The drilling itself took pretty long with this underpowered (max. diameter 43mm) machine but it got through eventually.







After that they were back up to their original speed. The gas handover point was fitted. It's fit through the wall and then a foam collar is added.



On top of that foam collar another plastic collar is fitted - from both sides.





From the outside, a cement mixture of very runny consistency that hardens within minutes is filled through a funnel. This serves to fix the handover point and to seal the wall again.





A product called Tangit is used to place and seal the fiber optic handover point. It's a 2-components expansion resin.





Then they had finished their part and told me a second team would arrive shortly to connect the gas line.

While I was waiting for them, I decided to use the time to clean out the hole of my basement window. This resulted in a rescue mission:

This little guy right here had somehow managed to fall through the light grid above said window/hole. His very lucky day, 2nd birthday if you want - I only very rarely open those light grids...







I set him free in the backyard where he took off right for the neighbors pond.





Shortly after this, the 2nd team arrived.

They brought a special welder.





To weld/melt the gas tube connections. All connection pieces feature metal lines on the inside, than when connected to the welder get hot and weld/melt the plastic tubes together.



But first things first:

Piping/tubing is laid out and cut





The connector to the main line is installed







Realizing they should have placed the connector the other way around. ;)



Turned around.



EVERYTHING gets wiped down with some alco-pads.



Connectors are placed. They feature a barcode that can serve different purposes. If necessary it can be used to trace it back to the manufacturer and the worker that installed it. In this case, they are used in conjunction with the welder - which then automatically detects how long it has to run for the type of connector.



Barcode scanned.



Welding.



Worker writes something on the connector...



This procedure is now repeated for all connections.









In the meantime the 2nd worker places a mechanical barrier on the gas handover point.

This is what it looks like





Placed on the handover point.



Now, the magic happens. Did I mention that the gas line is life over the whole time?

A bolt is inserted to the side of the T-connector and turned. Inside the T-Connector a cutter moves closer to the gas main line with each turn and opens it eventually. The bolt is unscrewed, the cutter head moves back in its original position and the gas can flow freely through the tubing. By that time the second worker opens the mechanical barrier to get all of the air out till he sniffs some gas. You can see the cutter in the first picture, the copper thingy inside the cut out.







Then it is also sealed.



The second connector, connecting the hose to the T-connector serves also as a flow switch.









By the end of day it looked like this:





I then proceeded to cover up the damage inside with some plaster and re-placed my shelvings.



Kind regards and I hope you guys are enjoying the journey so far,
Oliver
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The gas connections are fascinating.  You say the line was live the entire time?  I don't think I would have been standing around taking pictures while they were "welding" to the main.  [eek]

Thanks for sharing!

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That was all for a new gas line service? That seems pretty excessive but obviously high quality.

In the states there would either be a threaded black pipe or some gas-tite flex lines run and some pope dope slathered all over the threads.

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Hi!

The gas connections are fascinating.  You say the line was live the entire time?  I don't think I would have been standing around taking pictures while they were "welding" to the main.  [eek]

Thanks for sharing!

Yes, Sir, the gas line was live over the entire time they worked on it. The two guys who worked on it are professionals so I had faith and trusted them enough to stand there - I mean, where would I have gone/be safe anyway? - If that main line had blown up...

This "system" was designed to work this way. I'm not a professional in this line of work, and I haven't talked to them about this, but I could imagine that it is done like this for safety reasons:

If the gas line was shut off, all consumers connected to this part of the line would have extinguished and in this instance are supposed to close all feeding valves shut immediately and shouldn't re-open until it's manually done and the gas ignited again.

Now since you never know what kind of consumers all those people on this part of the line have and what state they are in - I guess the danger of a basement/room filling with gas because a valve of a heating, oven... (or the like) didn't shut off, and they don't automatically re-ignite is much higher than anything going wrong with this system. Of course this is the absolute worst case.

These are my un-professional thoughts.

Thank God, all went well - we're all still here to enjoy life! :)

That was all for a new gas line service? That seems pretty excessive but obviously high quality.

In the states there would either be a threaded black pipe or some gas-tite flex lines run and some pope dope slathered all over the threads.

Yes, Sir, all done for just two new gas lines from main line to handover point. Maybe nice to know for relation: The cost for this would normally be 2500 Euro (2775.75 USD at todays exchange rate) because of the work done all over town, we got the offer to do it at a heavily reduced price of 1000 Euro (1110,30  USD at todays exchange rate). Which is kinda a no-brainer because, we now got 10 yrs. time to install a gas-heating - our current oil-heating would then be over 20 yrs. old - so this is definitely a good investment.

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Today everything was closed up. And now, slapstick hits again: Tomorrow everything on public/municipal property will be re-opened over the whole length of the street to put in the fiber optic main line in... Not sure if it's just the main line being put in or if they also make the connection to our handover point. At least the line from my handover point right into public/municipal property is there - so chances are good. Anyway, no more digging on my property - that's finished.

Just two pictures today, closed pavement and me posing with that little excavator.





Kind regards,
Oliver

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Hi!

So today at 7AM came a lot of workers who placed the fiberoptic main line in the ground and closed it back up. They are so quick, I had to capture pictures at different sections and still didn't get everything... They work "in line": Removing pavers, excavating, placing the line, closing, adding the pavers again.

Small excavation.


Every house got a temporary bridge... (Safety is a BIG factor in Germany...)


And already re-installing the pavers...


What I didn't see, and sadly it's not really possible to communicate with the workers, if they connected the handover lines to the main line or if that will again be done separately...

For now, I consider this journey finished :)

Kind regards and I hope you had fun,
Oliver



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I have been fascinated by this post.  At the planning level it seems really inefficient, but at the least the workmen seem to know how to get in and out pretty cleanly.

With all the moving of pavers, how are they going to keep the sidewalk level as everything settles?  Do they replace all excavated dirt with sand?  Who comes back to fix pavers that go wonky?  Also, who is responsible for the grass from the sidewalk to the house?  I assume they level it out and you provide the grass seed?

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I have been fascinated by this post.  At the planning level it seems really inefficient, but at the least the workmen seem to know how to get in and out pretty cleanly.

With all the moving of pavers, how are they going to keep the sidewalk level as everything settles?  Do they replace all excavated dirt with sand?  Who comes back to fix pavers that go wonky?  Also, who is responsible for the grass from the sidewalk to the house?  I assume they level it out and you provide the grass seed?

The workers are good, all-round talents if you want. They do everything from excavating, setting pavers, drilling....

They bring sand, they bring very fine gravel and re-set the pavers. If it should settle further below the original level in future, especially after some rainfall, it's one call and they are going to fix it.

The Grass is on my property, where they removed it they filled the excavation with topsoil and provided grass seed on their own. I had to do nothing but watch and take pictures. Basically when they leave it's all like it was before - of course except for the grass that still needs some time to grow. Pretty sure that if I had especially asked for it, they would have provided turf.

Kind regards,
Oliver

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It brings a smile to see how cleanly they work, the end result and how neat the site appears after the job is done. I was thinking about this thread this morning as I drove down a familiar street littered with potholes patched and filled 1000x over. My car just rumbles over this stuff at 25 mph. This is a quiet suburb, not even in the city, but you would never see this in Germany. Yet here, good 'nuf is the norm.
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Hey Oliver,
Just curious if they do any hand tamping of the sand or gravel before they replace the pavers?

This has been a rather interesting post...it's always interesting to see how others do things, especially if the others are German!
I wouldn't even want to think how something like this would be done in the States.

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Hey Oliver,
Just curious if they do any hand tamping of the sand or gravel before they replace the pavers?

This has been a rather interesting post...it's always interesting to see how others do things, especially if the others are German!
I wouldn't even want to think how something like this would be done in the States.

Hi @Cheese ,

They spread the soil and gravel with a shovel, than place the pavers on top and then proceed whack them a few times by hand with a rubber-mallet. After that is done, the re-placed pavers are still a little higher than the rest - then a vibrator/shaker is run once or twice over the complete length and they sit perfectly. Of course, only after a couple of rainy days we'll see if they need to re-do a section or two... :)

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With all the praise for "German" work - I have to admit there was not one German worker. The two guys doing the excavating and drilling were originally from Turkey, the two guys doing the gas-connection, one was originally from India the other from Kazakhstan but all work for the same German company.

The two guys from the very first day, who used that rocket came from a company based in the Netherlands but were also originally from Turkey and the couple of guys running the fiber optic mainline were from the same company, but came originally from everywhere. Couple of guys originally from Estonia, one guy probably originally from Africa, and some others I didn't talk to because they were already working a street farther...

What I can say is that they all seemed pretty happy someone showed interest in what they do and how they do it, they executed their work very professional and did a great job.

The sad truth is that you won't find many Germans working in this kind of setting. Because they want to achieve "more" given the cost of living in Germany it's no wonder. So when they have their journeyman's certificate or even better their master craftsman certificate they fly off to stand on their own feet.

Establish their own company and won't ever be considered for this type of work because they can't come up with the necessary manpower needed.

And the companies doing this kind of jobs don't even pay close to enough to keep someone with a master craftsman certificate - if they do - it's for one position only - kinda the one master craftsman overseeing it all. And who absolutely needs to be there if the company want's to train/qualify apprentices.

(It's a law: only a master craftsman is allowed to take on new apprentices for training/education, so a company wanting to train/educate needs to have a master craftsman).

Given all these circumstances, and taking Turkey as an example: The two guys would get a 400,- Euro wage person/month after tax in Turkey for this kind of work. Here in Germany they are paid by the hour - the driver for example 15,- Euro/hour. They get paid for 7 - 8 hrs. a day. They don't do weekends so its 22 days/month. Lets say: 15 Euro x 7.5 x 22 = 2475 Euro before tax. So realistically they take 1732,50 Euro home. Add some perks like additional vacation/christmas gratification - that's huge for them compared to "Home".

For Germany that is rather low. No one with a college degree, journeyman/master craftsman certificate would work for that kind of money, there  may be exceptions that do, if they have some sort of "gun" to their head.

Kind regards,
Oliver


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I called it finished early. I just learned a large section is re-excavated - probably on Tuesday next week. My neighbor has no TV signal, they found a broken cable and fixed it - but it didn't help - so there must be more damage. And since we have a TV signal - starting at my neighbor and then down the street it's re-excavated. I'm very curious as from what I saw they never even came close to those cables - and where they came close to them, everything was A-OK when they closed the excavations...

I feel this is going to be a loooooooong story...  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]  [scared]

Kind regards,
Oliver

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This is the difference between Germany and the US.  In Germany you must actually be a licence tradesman in order to work publicly.  In the US, you can lose your desk job one day and the next be a "trunk slammer"...some who goes to Sears, Lowes, or Home depot,buy a hammer, square (if you're lucky) and a $50.00 saw and suddenly you're a contractor.

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I think the observation is the standard of work and work ethic is generally higher in Germany than the US, not necessarily a commentary on the nationality of the workers involved.  I had a fiber line run into my house 7 years ago.  They took a drill, punched the hole in the side of my garage, fished the cable through, globbed some caulk around the cable and called it done.  Outside the house the cable comes out of the ground and runs up the side of the house to the hole they drilled.  One day the landscapers are going to clip it with the mower or string trimmer.  At least I'll know where to start looking when I can't get on FOG!
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Hi!

This is the difference between Germany and the US.  In Germany you must actually be a licence tradesman in order to work publicly.  In the US, you can lose your desk job one day and the next be a "trunk slammer"...some who goes to Sears, Lowes, or Home depot,buy a hammer, square (if you're lucky) and a $50.00 saw and suddenly you're a contractor.

Sure, it's a relief knowing that someone you hire has some sort of training/education, is eligible to have an insurance that covers his doings and the like. But then I still always wonder how many great craftsmen/workers/employees are simply lost within "the system" because they didn't make the cut. Be it because of some school grades, a mishap with the law, ... *whatever*. Personally something I always admire when thinking of the USA is that there are, at least a lot more than in Germany, bosses who think outside the box and promote talent rather than just strictly following/adhering to a procedure. I know this is a long shot, given we were talking about "trunk slammers" - and I surely don't endorse it because this can end very, very bad. Both health and monetary wise.

I think the observation is the standard of work and work ethic is generally higher in Germany than the US, not necessarily a commentary on the nationality of the workers involved.  I had a fiber line run into my house 7 years ago.  They took a drill, punched the hole in the side of my garage, fished the cable through, globbed some caulk around the cable and called it done.  Outside the house the cable comes out of the ground and runs up the side of the house to the hole they drilled.  One day the landscapers are going to clip it with the mower or string trimmer.  At least I'll know where to start looking when I can't get on FOG!

I got that :) I just wanted to give credit where credit is due :) My plumber is a German master craftsman, asks 40,- Euro/hr and I'd certainly agree that his work ethic and standard of work are higher than what I have seen from other craftsmen that have worked for me so far with other nationalities.

I get that the hole they drilled and finally caulked for your fiber optic line is above the ground/soil, right? I'd dare to say, that could happen here too if the line goes in above the ground/soil. The problem, and we had it happening to our front basement wall, is that it draws moisture if it's not sealed off properly.

In our case we have a concrete foundation, then a sealing layer and on top of that bricks and mortar. For some reason that seal was damaged and the wall drew moisture, additionally during construction of the house some water must have collected on that foundation so they drilled trhough right into the soild beneath. (Additional intake of moisture there of course...) So what was done is, that they drilled at an angle right into the first layer of bricks and injected some 2-component expansion resin. It was really injected under high pressure with a pump - not like they did for the fiber optic handover point with a caulking gun.

Here's a picture: (I marked the injection valves/ports red, and the goo that came out after removing them 24 hrs later green...)



And another to give an idea of size and hole distance



Kind regards,
Oliver

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Hi!

One of the big disadvantages of having a home office and working from there for about 65% of my time is that everyone around you assumes you're on vacation/don't need to work and have time for everything if you open the door. Monday the door bell rang - and when I opened I was greeted by a worker from or energy supplier - he wanted to exchange the power meter. Although it really didn't fit my schedule I wanted it to be over quick so I let him do his job.

Old power meter


Old power meter with circuit breakers


Main line in and breakers - those were needed to be pulled of course - luckily my NAS and other stuff didn't get damaged as I didn't think of them and don't have a UPS... But now it's on the list of stuff to do.


breakers


New power meter


It works... *yay*... ;)


Kind regards,
Oliver

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So here is what happened about 11 days ago, a Neighbor complained - after the works had been finished - that his TV cable was dead.

Workers came and the pavement was re-opened in 3 spots. To search for the defective line and an obviously also defective connector.





When they found what they were looking for, defective parts of the cable were cut and re connected with a pretty special type of coax-cable connector (I haven't seen those before, only a couple of years old this technique/connector-system)











All connectors in place - ready for heat shrinking.



Heat shrinked.



The defective connector (from the 80ties, looking pretty good for being buried for more than 30 years)



Smaller connector in another of the holes they dug.



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The whole thing is far from over, I overheard two neighbors talking today who won't agree with the replacement of the pavers, they say it's not good enough and have already complained - so I'm pretty sure we will see some workers soon who will redo the whole pavement.... And I'm going to laugh my  off if that happens, before it's re-opned for final connection of the fiber optic cable to the main line.

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Interesting Oliver, thanks for the photos & update, FWIW, I Googled the connectors and this is what I found:

http://www.intica-systems.de/en/products/industrial-engineering/high-frequency-engineering.html

Then I Googled HFC network and found this:

A hybrid fiber coaxial (HFC) network is a telecommunication technology in which optical fiber cable and coaxial cable are used in different portions of a network to carry broadband content (such as video, data, and voice). Using HFC, a local CATV company installs fiber optic cable from the cable head-end (distribution center) to serving nodes located close to business and residential users and from these nodes uses coaxial cable to individual businesses and homes. An advantage of HFC is that some of the characteristics of fiber optic cable (high bandwidth and low noise and interference susceptibility) can be brought close to the user without having to replace the existing coaxial cable that is installed all the way to the home and business.

Scientific Atlanta lists four reasons why cable TV and telephone companies are upgrading facilities to HFC:

1) The use of fiber optic cable for the backbone paths allows more data to be carried than coaxial cable alone.

2) The higher bandwidth supports reverse paths for interactive data flowing back from the user.

3) That portion of the infrastructure with fiber optic cable is more reliable than coaxial cable. Reliability is perceived as more important in an interactive environment.

4) Fiber optic cable is more efficient for interconnecting cable TV or phone companies that are consolidating with geographically adjacent companies.

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Hi!

You're absolutely correct in your findings @Cheese !

They did this years ago, all main distribution frames were upgraded to fibre optical cables & hardware. And as stated above, the lines to homes and businesses stayed coaxial. With a mayor disadvantage - most of the old connectors/distributors (like our's from the 80'ties, that was replaced as you can see in the pictures) have major problems with many of the higher frequencies used today - so while we could get all 280 (actually more...) tv-channels, phone and internet over it, it never really worked 100%. (That's why we personally, still use different companies for TV, Phone & Internet with all different lines)

If the "new" company does it right with their fibre optical cable only installation - I guess it will be the end of the company still using the coax lines that were now repaired. I know, the neighbor it was repaired for is definitely going to switch companies - so sooner or later all these coax lines will be pretty much unused - just as the upgraded distribution frames, because the "new" company built their own.

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Oliver

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Hi!

Did some minor work on the shed yesterday: new holders for the tubed flexible lighting (think Partys and Christmas...).

Two still lives.





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Oliver

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Wonderful photo.  Love the contrast of Axe and Systainer. 

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Thanks!  [big grin]

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Oliver

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These updates are amazing to see the level of detail your utility providers go to.  We don't see this much in the US!

Love your tool choices as well!  Keep them coming -

neil

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Glad you're enjoying the posts, Neil!  [big grin]

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Oliver

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Oliver,

What is in the "Systainer of evil"?

Shane

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Hi Shane,

I simply empty my pockets in it when I'm working on a project. :)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Now I can sleep again. I thought maybe Pandora had modernized.

Regards,
Shane

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Now that's a great thought, hahaha  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

The term refers to, or better is a reminiscence of someone I "know" and who's wisdom on various topics I admire - but further explanations are not suitable to be had on here. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver

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Hi!

Some tinkering I did over the weekend, installed a new fence gate. Please disregard the miserable paint job on it - I'll re-paint next week with another type of coating - this one didn't work on the wood the fence gate is made of...

Had root canal treatment on Saturday morning anyway before I went and bought the gate and painted it....





















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Oliver




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Hi!

I just got a notification that on Thursday they will install my indoor handover point for the fibre optic cable. At the beginning of last week they "shot" the fibre optic cable through that tiny orange hose - I sadly didn't have the time to go out and cross the couple of streets to take pictures from the location they were working their "magic" at.

So if it's still interesting, stay tuned for new pictures :)

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Oliver

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Hi,

So the handover point for the optical fibre cable was installed today.

This is what the actual cable looks like:


This is how it was left when they "shot" the cable through:


Today they started by drilling some holes for the cable clips. They asked for a vac, so I gave them my CTL-SYS - they were pretty amazed and liked it - especially the auto on/off - lol. Seems there is a lot left to do for Festool marketing ;) This, + a BHC 18 (instead of the corded Bosch 2-28 and a C or T 18 instead of the Metabo + Systainers and a Sortainer for all the fasteners and clips would make their life soooooo much easier... @festool I'll handover the company's address for a little revenue in Festools....  :P :P :P [eek] [eek] [eek] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] :



The Bosch 2-28


Some tinkering with cable ties


Drilling for the handover point


Needs to be screwed to the wall...


Some tweaking.


This is what the handover point looks like on the (visible) inside - on the back there's some sort of reel where some of the cable goes - I guess as a kind of strain relief.


The connector cables inside the handover point get "welded" to the incoming cables. This is done with this fun little machine, a fusion splicer (Fitel S177). Here's a video on how it is used (not mine) ->


Testing and measuring. A-OK.


So this was the last post on this matter - hope everyone enjoyed the journey!

Kind regards,
Oliver
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Thanks Oliver, that's pretty interesting. That "fun little machine" costs around $16k to $17k. [jawdrop]

So do you have 2 fibre optic taps in that box?

Also, there seems to be about 2 feet of extra cable wound around that reel area, I wonder if the connections can go bad and that's the reason for the extra cable?

Finally, I'm curious what that yellow spigot is that comes out of the wall.

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That's a tap.  Isn't this standard in German homes?  In honor of Oktoberfest I think I need to put one in while I'm redo-ing the electrical in my basement!
-Raj

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Hi!

Since I don't know if you need 1 or 2 lines to communicate via fibre optical cable it's either 2 ports, or 4.

I think its more meant to be a strain relief, but of course - extra cable is always nice to have if something goes wrong... I'll ask them if I see them in the street! :)

Thats the handover point for gas. When we decide to change from oil to gas, that's where it will be connected. The silver-shiny thing is actually a mechanical safety, the red knob is to open the valve... ;)

LOL @ Raj  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

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Oliver

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Hi!

Oh the joy of adding additional holes to an existing but somewhat incomplete system 32 hole line. But thanks to the exceptional BTA HW D 5 CE tungsten carbide drill bit it can be done fast and accurate.




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Oliver


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Nice thread.

Who takes the pictures when both your hands are in view?

Nice watch by the way.  ;)
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Hi!

Mobile-Sysport - Project coming *yay*  [eek]  [scared]  [big grin] [big grin]

So I found this 3D-Modell by Sketchup-User "Jared D." -> https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=8339ecb1-4997-4bc6-86fe-236749b9fb8b

I will add some wheels.

I had some questions/trouble regarding the 18mm plywood but once they got squared away, I bought some ply at the local lumber yard. Since I'm still not even close to be back at 85% health wise, I had it cut to final dimensions - so I don't need to stand as much as when cutting the sheet myself.



Went there with my layout and this is what I came back with. :)





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Oliver

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Hi!

Here are a couple of "Festool-Shots" that I like from a another recent "project".







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Oliver

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Oliver

Be honest, you are just showing that the mailman finally showed up with the new PDC!
Bryan

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Nice watch by the way.  ;)

A black 40mm Explorer II...what's not to like?

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Oliver

Be honest, you are just showing that the mailman finally showed up with the new PDC!

Hi Bryan,

actually and honestly, no. I utilized it during a pretty urgent modification to the electrical circuit for the backyard. After finding out that there is current on the ground wire. An we're not talking the inductive/inductance kind.

So among a lot of work, mainly digging, that didn't require any Festool tools. I transformed this, the last dirty little secret  [eek]  [scared] :



into this:



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Oliver

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Hi,

another day of work.

This time I went to work on the other side.

First some demolition work.



Catching the last rays of this days winter sun.



Worked until after dark.



And then some more. Installation time...



Kind regards,
Oliver


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The aftermath.



And a still life from the workbench  [tongue]  [cool]  [big grin] [big grin]  [wink]



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Oliver

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  ;) ;D ;) [big grin]






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Oliver

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Hi!

So I visited the Fischer (dowels) Tour Truck to learn about new Fischer products and dowel technology and of course to meet cool people.



Didn't leave empty handed - got these uber-cool dowel bottle openers.



And to support the shop where the truck stopped, bought some Fischer stuff. For example this really great dowel pliers for drywall dowels. Got to try this at the truck, it's amazing and sooo strong (20kg/dowel) It's not really new, but was to me.



Before I try to explain with a lot of words, watch the video and be amazed ;) ;) ;)  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]



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Oliver

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Hi,

Some pictures from the weekend, building a Sys-Port...

Cutting a couple of pieces for my "add-ons"


Old school System 32  [scared]  [big grin]




240 holes. The battery of my CXS had only one bar left and is still going...  [scared] [scared]  [eek] [eek]  8) 8) [big grin] [big grin]


Cleaning up.


Old school dowel jig.


Square


68mm hole-saw in 18mm ply - no problem for the PDC.


Todays goal was met - more work tomorrow.


Precision aka this is why I love the TSC 55.


I have to say, I learned a lot in the last two days. As you all know I'm far away from being a woodworker, but it was a fun and much needed project. I will clean it up, sand it and finish it in the coming days - then I will post more pictures and a couple of explanations.

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Oliver

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I have the same Rotring compass, Oliver!

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Some fun with auger drill bits...  [eek]  [scared]  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]






















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Oliver