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« on: February 3, 2010, 07:29 PM »

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I've got two built ins to produce , one an entertainment center and the other a large work station . They are wood painted white and I need an under shelf dimmable accent lighting in each. What would you sugest ? What has worked for you and what hasn't ? Also , who is the best choice for procuring them ? 
 
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 3, 2010, 08:15 PM »
I see that you are located in Virginia.  I'll answer here because a poll on this subject doesn't really work.

I have installed low voltage puck lights with a touch dimmer - only on / off, high / low from either Lowes or HD.  Worked out pretty well.  Recessed mount or surface mount.  I think that Honeydokreg uses similar.  Definitely plan for the cable paths in your design.  And clearance for heat.

I will be in your boat hopefully in the next 3 months and will be trying to locate a dimmable, color changing, led system for my cabinets.  I already have the non dimmable versions that I have played with.

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« Reply #2 on: February 3, 2010, 09:04 PM »
Kichler has some very low profile ( <1/4" thick) led puck lights that look nice, although I am not sure they can be dimmed. Their website shows these in their modular led collection.  I recently installed some very small led's in the risers on my deck project -- I plan to use some of these in interior LR cabinets since these LEDs can be dimmed. Check out these at de-kor.com (recessed lights). Berkeley Point also has some small LEDs that seem suitable for interior use, although they are mostly made for exterior applications.  Good luck
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« Reply #3 on: February 3, 2010, 09:32 PM »
I have to second John's recommendation. Kichler makes some nice stuff. Their catalogue is one of the first I look at when I need lights. Another recommendation, can't believe I'm going to say this, is Ikea. Believe me I am not an Ikea fan. I got dragged there a while ago and I have to say I was impressed with the selection of cabinet lighting they had. I bought a few of their undercabinet lights, modified them and they've been working great. Cheap too.
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« Reply #4 on: February 3, 2010, 10:00 PM »
I love IKEA for lighting.  Most of the lighting in my home is Ikea.  Since 1993.

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« Reply #5 on: February 4, 2010, 12:35 AM »
I am a fan of this simple one's.  Something that has a track under the cabinets with out lets.

I have had too many problems with the low voltage transformers.

Look for something 120v.
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« Reply #6 on: February 4, 2010, 02:04 AM »
This is the product I use (the linear);

http://www.junolightinggroup.com/splash_juno-linearLED.asp

I have yet to have a problem with the transformers.

From JLC awhile back (I am not about to retype it);

http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43010&highlight=cabinet+lights

Juno has added more items to the line since the JLC post.

This is Seagulls linear lighting;

http://www.seagulllighting.com/Linear-Lighting.htm

I believe Seagull also markets a LED module.

Both the above are 12 volt AC.

I prefer linear lighting for balance, disc lights can cause "hot and cold" lighting patterns and shadows.

LEDs are cool to the touch and consume very little power, do not use a halogen bulb in a cabinet.

Any fixture/light installed per the NEC must be a listed fixture (UL) if your AHJ has adopted the 08 NEC.

When I have time I will up load some pics for those of you who are not members of the JLC forum.

You will find other LED lights to fit your needs if you search the manufactures pages I linked.

John mentioned Dekor lighting this is their web site;

http://www.de-kor.com/index.html

Their Millennium indoor recessed are what you will need to look at, be aware they need a false panel to be installed in. I am not certian what the beam spread is, you will need to know this to install the proper amount of lights. Great deck lights, have yet to use them indoors.

All of the LED's come in various kelvin temperatures and wattage's, there will be one for your needs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

4100k is my preferred in most situations. You describe yours as accent lights not task lights so the 3000k range should work for you.

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« Reply #7 on: February 4, 2010, 09:37 PM »
A few Track 12 installs;

http://picasaweb.google.com/tbadernwi/BaronBasement#

http://picasaweb.google.com/tbadernwi/JoeKitchen#

http://picasaweb.google.com/tbadernwi/Track12Rail#

I am not a good photographer and the dates are wrong but you should get the idea.

This is a deck in Kazoo with in-lite brand deck lights;

http://picasaweb.google.com/tbadernwi/Lauricedeck#

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