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Offline Don T

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I could use a little HELP
« on: November 01, 2017, 02:35 PM »
When they installed a new furnace about 5 years ago they cut this support. What is the best and correct way to fix it?  The attached pictures are the cut as well as the top and bottom connection. I am doing this work because we are selling the house and This is what the inspector pointed ou. Thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 03:33 PM by Don T »
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Offline Alex

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 03:39 PM »
One possible solution: two strong metal plates on either side, and bolt it all together.


Offline Don T

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 03:43 PM »
That is a good idea but it is only a 2 X 4. Do you think it might weaken the 2 X 4 by drilling multiple holes?
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Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2017, 04:13 PM »
I'd just put a 2x4 on each side, make them as long as you can. 
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Offline Don T

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 04:20 PM »
I'd just put a 2x4 on each side, make them as long as you can.
Will that pass code?
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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2017, 04:30 PM »
They cut an engineered truss. You will need an engineered solution. Had ta similar thing happen to a floor truss in a home I was building for a client. Had to have the truss company provide us a stamped solution.

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 05:01 PM »
3/4" plywood on each side of the strut. The plywood needs to extend 2' past the cut in each direction. Construction adhesive and staple with 7/16 crown staples 1-1/2" long.

As pointed out, you'll need an engineer to stamp the repair.

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Offline Don T

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2017, 05:16 PM »
So I’m assuming trying to remove the truss connector plates and replace board and new truss plates is not a good idea?
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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2017, 06:12 PM »
So I’m assuming trying to remove the truss connector plates and replace board and new truss plates is not a good idea?

It would have been BEFORE the inspector saw it... just saying.

Its not a legit fix because the truss connectors are usually compressed on a huge press and you just smashing it with your hammer isn't the same. Like everyone has said you'll need a structural engineer to sign off on it. You'll probably pay for an hour or two of their time and they will give you the fix they are most comfortable with.

Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 08:26 PM »
Another solution is utilizing the engineering of the truss company who supplied these members (if they are still in business).  I had to modify a truss for a skylight a number of years ago and the cost was significant for a private engineer versus the truss company’s engineer.  In my case, they were able to do the calcs without a site visit.

To put your mind at ease, I don’t think you are looking at a complicated repair.  I’m on board with the suggestions tendered above.

Good luck!
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 04:37 AM »
Too bad you didn't see this 5 years ago as you could have made the contractor who cut it pay for the engineering to repair it since they are the ones who put you in this situation.
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Offline Don T

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2017, 04:12 PM »
Update:  I called the contractor yesterday and they actually returned my call this morning.  They will be out here tomorrow to fix the truss and everything else that they did improperly.  I am shocked that I even received a return phone call.

Thank You guys for all the help.  Love this forum.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2017, 05:20 PM »
That's great, and I will say I didn't expect it after 5 years from the contractor.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2017, 09:42 PM by Bob D. »
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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2017, 05:50 PM »
Great news!

In some states (like mine) contractors can be held accountable for building code violations for life.  I once used this for a customer to have a contractor repair a situation that was 14 years old.

But Building Inspectors that miss things are protected.  Arghh.

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Offline jimbo51

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Re: I could use a little HELP
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2017, 08:05 PM »
Back in the mid 1980s, I read a story from suburban Philadelphia in which an HVAC contractor had cut out most of a main wooden beam to run a duct. The error was not detected until the living room above started to develop a major dip in the floor. I never did read about how that problem was resolved.