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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2012, 08:12 PM » |
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I haven't thrown my hat in the Syslite review ring yet, but the one thing I don't like about it is that I am neurotic about it. This is one of those things that it seems best to have a spare tucked away somewhere behind a sign saying: "break glass in case of emergency only".
Too funny, I was thinking the sme thing. Like getting one for the wife to keep....in case of....well just in case she needs light! |
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2012, 08:17 PM » |
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I haven't thrown my hat in the Syslite review ring yet, but the one thing I don't like about it is that I am neurotic about it. This is one of those things that it seems best to have a spare tucked away somewhere behind a sign saying: "break glass in case of emergency only".
Too funny, I was thinking the sme thing. Like getting one for the wife to keep....in case of....well just in case she needs light! That would be a great reason to get one for your wife. It is great in the event of a power outage, and you know how important that is. |
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2012, 08:20 PM » |
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Ron, interesting you say two, bc from the get go i have maintained that for $175 you should get two lights and a nice tripod. Then I could leave one in the box van and have one for around the home, or when doing a bunch of drywall have two on a tripod facing an entire wall. And for all you people demonstrating the lights capability in the attic, please. I go into a clients attic once every five years and my HVAC guy cant afford a $175 light. He uses a $20 one he got at Dicks. Just my two cents, Eric
Tripods I have a-plenty. I do need a better portable light though. With 6 3 watt LEDs the Syslite might be the ticket. With that kind of output I'd be willing to spend a bit for it. The problem I have with the Syslite is that I already have batteries and a charger. I don't want to buy more such batteries/chargers that are incompatible with my other tools. I guess what want is a Syslite-Lite. Otherwise I'll probably look elsewhere. |
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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2012, 08:22 PM » |
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Eric, it was on one of my iPad apps! I imported the photo and then I can write on it or add captions! Good times!
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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2012, 08:23 PM » |
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Scott, what do you use for lighting on your jobs? I only need lighting like once a year. The other 365 days I rely on the SUN! Eric
Used that small Graco to spray Flood Solid Color Deck Stain on a PT deck, backbrush of course, came out awesome.
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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2012, 08:24 PM » |
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Bob, slow workday? Eric
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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2012, 08:27 PM » |
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Scott, what do you use for lighting on your jobs? I only need lighting like once a year. The other 365 days I rely on the SUN! Eric
Used that small Graco to spray Flood Solid Color Deck Stain on a PT deck, backbrush of course, came out awesome.
Nice, Eric, glad to hear it. Definitely a production boost using that method. We have historically used a combination of junk including halogen 250 and 500 singles, twin heads and fluorescent telescope bazookas. We have put more in dumpsters in the past 5 years than I care to remember. Lighting is a big thing for us on interiors, and is very seasonal. Even lately though, on cloudy mornings our guys are needing light. We work new construction alot, where the finished lighting is not installed until after we are finished, which makes our life difficult in a couple of respects. The syslite fits the criteria of a couple of critical lighting needs, for my company so far. |
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2012, 09:03 PM » |
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Scott, I give you and your company a pass. It seems like you cant really put a price on having adequate light in your line of work. For me a single light price would have to be $75. Maybe after BuilderBob loans me his and I take it through some of my field tests I could be swayed. It would replace two small halogens which currently are stuck on indestructible mode. I really like that Flood product for PTs, Eric
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2012, 09:09 PM » |
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You may have to pry that out of my cold hands! I'm gonna mount it to my bjornklader pants and have it on my person at all times!!! Haha! I've waited this long for it...I can't part with it now!
The workday wasn't slow... Had a wedding to go to so it was shortened!
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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2012, 09:26 PM » |
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I really like that Flood product for PTs, Eric
You are the second reliable source I have heard about the Flood from. Will have to check it out. Its just a matter of time before you have a thinner rag in your back pocket and stand too close to a halogen...you will run for the nearest bidet and the syslite epiphany will overwhelm you.  |
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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2012, 09:52 PM » |
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Scott, i started my career as a painter. My paint store has been around for forty years and is considered the best spot in the state. The guys there all have more experience then i have years and they schooled me well. Been using Flood for five years. I have seen many of them years later holding up. It almost has a glossy film too it, i like to call it the helmet. I dont use anything from them besides the solid. Other finishes i use Sikkens, Penofin on nicer decks, Eric
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2012, 07:01 AM » |
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Who has buyers remorse from buying a $175.00 flashlight? Just wondering? Festool seems to have made more enemies then friends with the Syslite campaign. At least on the other forums i hang out at. The XL looks amazing though, Eric
Eric, Not me. Ordered the XL and the lite and I'm possibly more excited about the lite. Before JLC, I would have questioned my own sanity for spending that much money on a flashlight. And then I saw how bright it was. Ever since, June 1 couldn't approach fast enough. I'll mount it on a tripod next to the MFT and finally get some decent light on finicky projects. (Living in an 80 yo house without enough natural light or lamps has its disadvantages). But it will also be great for working in the panel box, drywall, undercabinet plumbing, etc. And it's not going to burn my backside if I back into it. Would it be nice if there were two in the box? Sure. But I'm happy to get one right now. And LEDs still aren't cheap. Best, Steve |
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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2012, 07:33 AM » |
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For me, as a finisher, LED light is a better representation of natural light and true color representation. Here is an example of how our fluorescent lighting turns white paint to a pukey yellowish green:  And here is how the same color is represented with LED using the Syslite:  |
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« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2012, 01:17 PM » |
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After BuilderBob lending me his for a day+, I'm buying 6 of them to use as nightlights. I might use several once a week when I go up in the attic and add another case of spray foam everywhere. I'm addicted to the stuff, Kreg, plus it's fun watching it expand with the SysLites.
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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2012, 01:20 PM » |
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I heard the led light from the syslite makes the foam Expand bigger . Just saying!!! Dave |
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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2012, 01:24 PM » |
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Sysfoam?  ? |
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2012, 01:27 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2012, 01:31 PM » |
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For the win!!!!!!
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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2012, 01:57 PM » |
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So when is the Syslite XL being released? |
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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2012, 02:03 PM » |
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Kaizen is crazy, it acually multiplies from the led light.
Back on topic though. The syslite is a crazy important tool to me now. It's so compact and portable it takes no time to set up so you find yourself using it when you would have just done something in a poorly lit area. I'm lazy, unless I really needed light bad I would rather struggle to see then make the trip to the truck for the halogens. Which was a stupid and unsafe idea, but now I can toss the syslight on my work bag and it can be inside with me. And I already own Festool drills so I have a bunch of batteries.
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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2012, 02:04 PM » |
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So when is the Syslite XL being released? 12 LEDS!!!! That would be crazy  |
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2012, 02:06 PM » |
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I'm thinking some 1/4" 20 threaded rod???
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2012, 02:33 PM » |
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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2012, 02:36 PM » |
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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2012, 02:38 PM » |
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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2012, 03:35 PM » |
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$400 with stand? Is a really nice set up, just saying, Eric
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2012, 04:32 PM » |
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That's our syslite XL ;-) Thought you would get a kick out of it!
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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2012, 04:52 PM » |
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Next time im down we will barter? Eric
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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2012, 11:06 PM » |
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So I get this light in the mail today and what do I find, It is amazing, awesome and probably one of the brightest light I have ever used.
I would never believe I would spend this amount of money on something like this but again the Festool Cool Aid has come thru and now I am thinking of buying another to keep with me when I am working in the bottom of a bilge in a boat.
I have to say thank you Festool for an unexpected suprise in this light
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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2012, 11:34 PM » |
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I'll leave aside the fact that complaining about $US175 for a Syslite sounds like babies having their dummies stolen when I'm paying $AU300 !! Looking at the price as a relative base line and the "sum of the parts" as the typical comparison doesn't tell the entire story - in balance, you need to consider the very obvious Festool R&D effort in this light - influencing the price. There are so many little things ... play with it on a flat surface for a while and you'll notice things about the shape that aren't immediately obvious ... like the fact that the sides are not symmetrical ... allowing multiple light projection angles. Sweet! Yes, we're going to see some clever FOG born improvements. Yes, after having mine several months, I'll be buying one or two more. There will be a cheap ripoff or two of this light on the market in the near future - take away the cost of R&D, high levels of warranty and support, etc ... just copy in China and ship in volume. Easy! But don't complain about changing world economics if you ultimately buy a knockoff! |
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