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Question: How Does the Festool Owners Group Affect Your Purchases?
The Forum is the Main Reason I Purchased My First Festool Tools
The Forum is the Main Reason For My Second, or More, Festool Tools
The Forum Makes Me More Likely to Purchase Future Festool Tools
The Forum Does Not Affect My Festool Purchases

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« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2010, 07:02 PM »

Perhaps there are others like me that missed these stealthtainers:




Maybe that is the secret with the significant others.  Paint your work area the same color as the systainers, and they will blend in!


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The tools in my truck were talking the other day.  The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy.  They also were in the minority.  Their complaint:  They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in.  I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2010, 07:26 PM »

Ha, Peter, that is a brilliant method you've sleuthed. 

DavidCBaker-- you've gotta get some labels going on.  I know you have your little text labels on your Sysport brigade, but without some front graphics we all can't properly salivate. 
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« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2010, 01:52 PM »

Perhaps there are others like me that missed these stealthtainers:


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Maybe that is the secret with the significant others.  Paint your work area the same color as the systainers, and they will blend in!


Peter



Maybe David Photoshpped them in. We shoud demand a new shot with some of them opened.  Grin
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« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2010, 02:23 PM »

So, it's been a while since this poll was created.  Anyone else interested in weighing in on whether the forum is doing a good job of helping you make educated, well-informed purchasing decisions?
If I had already made the decision to buy Festool, and just wasn't sure which tool in a class was right, the forum would affect my decision greatly.  For instance, I wanted to buy a sander to help me remove a bunch of paint, knew I wanted good dust collection, wasn't sure which sander would fit the bill best, posted a question here, and ended up with an RAS115.

However, if I was considering other brands, I don't think the group would affect my decision much.  This is because it seems like - and I do not want to offend - a lot of users here seem to be blindly in love with the name on the tool instead of how well a particular tool does its job. Some opinions here comparing Festool to other brands are objective, but some are clearly not.

Festool makes some great tools and I really enjoy using the ones I have, but come on ! I was talking to my Festool dealer the other day and even he said sometimes he thought some of the posts here looked almost cult-ish.
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« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2010, 02:52 PM »


Festool makes some great tools and I really enjoy using the ones I have, but come on ! I was talking to my Festool dealer the other day and even he said sometimes he thought some of the posts here looked almost cult-ish.


Cultish? Nah..BTW, has anyone got any new info on the release date for the new Boxer Shorts to match my T-shirt?

Point taken, Nuggy, but I was pondering the other day how ironic it will be that the Fogtainers I ordered will probably wind up housing non-Festool tools.  Embarassed
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« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2010, 04:46 PM »

This could be a very interesting "contest" -- who on this forum owns the most Festools???  My understanding is that David hasn't been in the game very long at all so I would put my money on him at some point in the not too distant future...  Unsure
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« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2010, 06:41 PM »

The most Festool tools that I have ever seen in in a non-dealer site was in Greg Mann's basement.  So, I am betting that he would win.
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« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2010, 06:44 PM »

Sounds like a peeing contest for kids.  Poke
I guess most people just buy what they need or think they need. And sometimes the purchase is not what it should be. It is under-performing, the seller did not show some negative deal breakers or you were just expecting too much of the poor tool.
But thanks to this forum with its well informed members, you will be better prepared when you are exchanging the green stuff for the green tools.
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« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2010, 07:00 PM »

F.Y.I. There is a member here who owns all of the Festool items sold in North America.  It is certainly not me.  I will not mention names.

It was mentioned in a post many moons ago and there were some misunderstandings, so please do not go and dig out that post or the following posts in that thread and bring it here.

Thanks for honoring this little request.

Peter
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day.  The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy.  They also were in the minority.  Their complaint:  They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in.  I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #69 on: August 10, 2010, 07:21 PM »

In my eyes there are three types of Festool purchasers: The Collector, hobbyist and the Money Maker.

The collector buys the tools whether the tool is need or not.  This person will buy the tools to complete the collection or because it is a cool tool and maybe some day I will use it.

The Money maker buys the tools that are need to get the job done and make some money.

The Hobbyist buys what he can get past the finance committee (your spouse). Smile
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« Reply #70 on: August 10, 2010, 07:28 PM »

Sounds like a peeing contest for kids.  Poke

You are absolutely right, I didn't intend to encourage any such display of tool duel.  The real question is what is accomplished with the tools you have & David seems off to a really good start in that area.
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« Reply #71 on: August 10, 2010, 09:30 PM »

I happen to also know that there are people that post on this Forum that, not only have pretty much every Festool AINA, but more than one of many.

I applaud their commitment to quality and having the wherewithal to pursue a path to success in their business or avocation without allowing the less informed to persuade them. Too often, people succumb to those around them, who will make statements of value without thoroughly examining the value proposition. There is always someone who will ask, "how much it costs", as opposed to asking, "how much it's worth".

I try to break everything into 3 similarly important aspects. I think it helps to keep things simple and balanced. To me, with tools in general, there are 3 things that will cause me to consider a tool purchase, or consider discussing it with a potential buyer:
  • cost - over the life of the tool
  • utility of the tool - effort of use is included in this assessment
  • quality of the results and the tool itself, which also leads into the first point

Those things have always been my criteria for buying tools and as I grow older, I realize why my Dad and Uncles bought good tools - They pay off.


Tom

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« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2010, 03:50 PM »

None of the above.

I use FOG to research the pros and cons of the different models so that I can make an informed decision.  For example, after spending last night here, I am now confident in my decision to order a pin-style Domino.
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« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2011, 12:43 AM »

I use FOg as a resource. Let me know when and new tools are coing out. Before i buy a tool I will come here and reearch it to see if it does what I need it for or if anyone has had problems with it setting it up using it etc.
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« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2011, 08:54 AM »

It only helps me how I may use them once I get them, but they do not influence which ones I get.  I've already decided that my fourth Festool will be the TS55, Fifth will be the 1400 series router, and Sixth will be the MFT/3.  Most other purchases after that will be accessories to make my full use of those and the three tools I have now ie Ro90, CT Mini, and CXS.  Following the three big purchases will be the 1/2" jacobs fastfix chuck that will work on the CXS to expand it's capacity.  I may also want to get a hard pad for the Ro90 and maybe the shop cleanup systainer kit for the Mini.
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« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2012, 09:30 PM »

Before I was given the URL for The FOG, I already owned virtually all of the Festools sold in the USA.

The FOG gave me a community, informs me about the way others use Festools and approach woodworking.
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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2012, 08:48 PM »

Yes being able to talk about the features and possible shortcomings of a tool helps me decide if I want to pull the trigger on a new purchase.  Since joining the FOG, I have added a ETS 150-3, RO90, Domino 700, Sys Port, and will soon add a CSX drill.  I also have a Domino500 and a 300 Jigsaw.

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