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« on: March 06, 2007, 12:06 PM »

...I have read from several sources that the bisquits do swell.  In a cramped shop such as mine, that translates into problems with assembly...

Your shop is so small that swelling biscuits affect it?


"I tell you folks, my shop is small, really small."

[audience in chorus] "How small is it?"

"My shop is so small that when the biscuits swell..."


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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 01:07 PM »

"my shop is so small I have to go outside to change my mind..."   Cheesy 
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 12:57 PM »

My shop on the other hand is as big as the whole outdoors, or at least my little piece of the earth. Cheesy. The climate control, on the other hand, isn't always my favorite feature. And it get crowded in the warmer months when I have to share space with all kinds of useless items like tables, chairs, and umbrellas. Of course, then it doesn't start the day at 27 degrees.  Grin





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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 03:40 PM »

Each time I dispose of some heavy iron, my shop gets bigger.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 03:54 PM »

My shop (garage) is sooooo small...   ("How small is it?!?")   When I sneeze, it cleans out the dust right nicely!   Grin

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 03:58 PM »

My shop is so small that I have to look up to look down.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 04:06 PM »

My shop doesn't exist  Sad

I had some offcuts of 40mm rubberwood worktop, and decided to make a batch of chopping boards yesterday. My improvised 'shop' consisted of about 12 square feet in the corner of my daughter's bedroom....



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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 04:28 PM »

Rubberwood?  What is that?

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 04:31 PM »

Maybe we should start a new section labeled Festool Fish Stories, or Festool Stories, Lies and Liars Contest, containing strings of the many tales being told.  Tinker and Llap should get sections of their own.  I really enjoy much of what they write.  I say "much" because I cannot understand some of what Llap writes.

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 05:00 PM »

I say "much" because I cannot understand some of what Llap writes.

Dave R.

That's because he's Welsh and they have all consonants and no vowels to speak of.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 05:06 PM »

Rubberwood?  What is that?

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It's wood, from the rubber tree, actually  Grin

Also known as 'parawood'. Very eco friendly, light in colour, and durable. I like the look of it, and it's quite nice to work with too. More info here.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 05:06 PM »

So there is no "Vowel Language" from the Welsh?

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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 05:14 PM »

I have already indicated how small my shop is.  I bought a new truck a few years ago.  It had a real short wheelbase, and thus a short turning radius.  it took me a while to get used to it when i was towing my equipment trailer. 

Why was that?

Well, if i cut'er too short, I would drive right up onto the trailer.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2007, 05:17 PM »

JRB, no you don't win because you showed a picture of your Kapex.  NAINA, so that was a nono.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2007, 05:35 PM »

JRB, no you don't win because you showed a picture of your Kapex.  NAINA, so that was a nono.
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Bu99er, so I did! I was hoping you wouldn't notice that...  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2007, 05:36 PM »

So there is no "Vowel Language" from the Welsh?

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2007, 05:46 PM »

About 30 years ago, my father gave me a small bandsaw. a 9" delta-rockwell-milwaukee.  that's old, believe me.  for a few yearrs, i had no room in my shop to set it up.  I won't tell you where until the end of the story.

A few years later, i wanted to build a barn.  since the barn was going to be too close to the lot line, P&Z told me I could not do it without a variance.  So, a month or two later I found myself standing before the Zoning Board of Appeals answering dozens of questions and showing my plans.  I had letters from my neighbors telling all that they did not mind what I wanted to do.

Somebody asked what i wanted to do with the barn once it was built.

"I want to store tools and equipment."

"Why is that?"

Well, for one thing, i would like to do some woodworking and i don't have enough room."

"Do you do woodworking now?"

"Yes."

"Why, then do you need more space?"

"Well, I have a small bandsaw and my wife is getting tired of me storing it under our bed."

I got the variance with no further questions,  after it took a few minutes for everybody to stop laughing.    Roll Eyes

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2007, 11:44 PM »

mY sHOP iS sO sMALL tHAT wHEN i gET a kEPEX (NAINA) i wILL hAVE tO sNEEZE tO mAKE rOOM fOR iT
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2007, 12:55 AM »

"I know you want me to build you one. But my shop is too small to build a bed/desk/bookcase/set of kitchen cabinets for you, sweety.

First project has to be tear it down and build a bigger shop."


Never miss a chance to punch an upgrade onto the ticket.

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2007, 02:31 PM »

I want to encourage Tinker to write a full book - or to just sit with a writer/interviewer (I think we all know one at FOG whose name begins with "M") to drawout and capture many of those warm and wonderfully funny stories!  Please keep them coming, Tinker.  I especially loved your series on art-in-the-family.

Dave R.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 03:59 PM »

You could call it "No Stone Unturned"
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 04:09 PM »

Never miss a chance to punch an upgrade onto the ticket.

I've been telling my wife for many years now that there's no sense doing a project if it doesn't give me an excuse to buy a new tool....

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 05:03 PM »

I want to encourage Tinker to write a full book - or to just sit with a writer/interviewer (I think we all know one at FOG whose name begins with "M") to drawout and capture many of those warm and wonderfully funny stories!  Please keep them coming, Tinker.  I especially loved your series on art-in-the-family.

Dave R.

I actually have written a several series of stories for family and very close friends.  It is fun.  All of the tales I have written here have been originals that had not been in any of the other series.  It is all you guys faults as you keep giving me ideas. 

I guess we can say this series has been for another group of very great friends.

When i was a senior in HS, my English teacher tried to encourage me to be a writer.  She liked the way I wrote and told me i should work on it.  I insisted I was actually too lazy to be a writer.  i needed hard work where i had more action.  Two years after i was out of HS, a good friend asked me to write a story for him to hand in for English class.  at first, i said "No way."  He was persistant so i finally wrote it for him.  A few days later, I asked how he made out with "his" story.  It seems Ms M. recognized immediately and gave him a failing mark.  When he asked why, she told him to look at the back of the page he had handed in.

In very large script, she had written:  "Next time, have somebody other than Wayne Tinker write your story"  Now, I ask, was the flunk for the story or the lack of originality?
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 06:12 PM »

Funny how the more systainers I bring home, the more other stuff I can move out to adjacent storage space, and the less small my shop seems to be. 

Festool's Corollary - Workshop size increases proportionally to the quantity of systainers found within.
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 10:22 PM »

Be lucky to have a shop at all, I have to do all my woodworking in my bedroom! Hence the need for festool, sawdust under the sheets makes for a very uncomfortable sleeping experience. Before Festool I never thought woodworking would be possible at all given my circumstances but after having experienced "the system" I would gladly pay double the price for any of the tools they offer as woodworking for me would not even be possible without them!
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 11:28 PM »

Festool's Ancillary Corollary- Workshop size will increase proportionally to the quantity of systainers found within, until such time as shop occupant perceives accumulation of free corners, then additional systainers are purchased to occupy said false space, nullifying spare perceived space, a self cancelling equation. This equation is self correcting until all items in the catalog have been acquired, all credit cards have been cut up, or spouse has revoked right of occupancy, whichever comes first.


Not to be confused with Festool's Coronary, which is the reaction to a received credit card balance in the month after a loss of financial sense, resulting in the purchase of a number of new tools.
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2007, 12:37 AM »

Well,
My shop is a Tardis. The size of a phone box outside, but the space time continuum means nothing inside. I have my own 18 hole golf course with the first tee just next to the Kapex and the 18th green just near the fridge, by the Bandsaw. The saw dust piles count as hazards.

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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2007, 02:16 AM »

 The Steady State Theory almost -  Expansion of the Festool Universe via Torsion Physics  Shocked
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2007, 04:51 AM »

First off. I've had to build two projects keeping in mind they'd have to fit between the joist's on the ceiling above built them upside down so the legs fit between the joists).

I share my shop with the laundry room, kids bikes and ride on tractor with trailer, hockey gear. Allot of it goes outside on shop days.

I'd venture to say my shop is about 10 feet by 8 feet and contains a full size hand tool bench, miter saw, drill press, grinder, lathe, bandsaw, planer, CT-22, MFT and a whole whack of Festool's stored away in the cabinet

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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2007, 07:17 AM »

Go get yourselves a beer, cup of tea, or whatever, this is going to be kinda long.

(BTW, for those of you who might partake of an occasional cup 'o tea,  You may have something to remember my father by.  He was working as an artist for the advertising agency of BBD&O  when he was doing a layout for, i think, Tetly Tea.  He wasasked to come up with an idea for stretching, or whatever, the enjoyment of brewing a cup of the product.  It was MY DAD, who first came up with the idea of the flow thru tea bag.  I don't know who actually got credit as he was one of the low men on the BBD&O totem pole at the time)

When I was in HS, (1945-49), we lived in a small house with even smaller kitchen.  No running water or electricity for first year or two in the house.  outside plumbing. Oil lamps for illumination.  The whole nine yards of Abe Lincoln type life except our heat was a kerosene cook stove in the kitchen.  since i was the mechanical one in the house (remember? brother was an artist, who at the time was mostly interrested in drawing and painting), it fel upon my shoulders to keep things like the outside water pump primed and ready for operation at all times.  The winter time meant that i had to be sure there was enough HOT woter to not only thaw out the pump, but to have a large enough supply to also prime it.  That meant i had to be sure the kerosene stove was always operable. If any of you hade the great good fortune  Roll Eyes Tongue Undecided to grow up with kerosene stoves, you know that in itself could be no mean feat.  They worked fine when the weather was warm and sunshiney.  when it was cold and very blustery, they became the most cantankerous utility known to mankind.  I supose, in hindsight, I must have aided nature in some sneaky way, as i was often required to spend a day home from school for the purpose of restoring that cantankerous stove back to a degree of normalcy so we could eat that evening and haveenough warmt to sit at the kitchen table dressed with only a few layers less than required for survival at the north pole. 

Our bath tub was a great big wash tub that we set in the middle of the kitchen floor.  With no insulation under the floor, any water that spilled over that tub was still there in the spring.  Eventually, my project before my 2 yr vacation with my Uncle Sam, wa to remove that relic of a kitchen and build a new one for my mother.  Since the kitchen was built on about 9 or 10 pile posts, it was an easy matter to start the removal by backing the car up to the backside, tying a rope to one of the posts and driving away.  And there begins a whole collection of tales that have afforded many a fond memory.

Let's go back to my HS days i have related herein.  As i have related, both my mother and my brother were quite artistically endowed.  Brother, at the time, was interrested in drawing and painting. during those days, his art was realistic and one actually knew what the finished product was meant to be.  Mom, at that time was mostly into sewing and interior decorating.  Me, i was into hunting, fishing, farming and almost anything that ultimatly brough some sort of mess into the house, mostly by way of muddy boots and dusty clothing.   Among all of my interrests was the beginnig of my interrest in WW'ing.  I had just finished building a chicken coop in my back yard (with some help from an old Scottish cabinetmaker next door (someday i'll tell some about him, one of my alltime favorite people from those days)), i was into shop classes at school (started as freshman) and was beginning to become interrested enough in that hobby that I often found things to build at home.

during warm weather, there was no great problem.  we all found our own space to carry out our individual projects.  Mom and brother took up very little space.  Me, that was a different story and as i look back, I have no reason to complain over a question Mom asked me at one time, "Why can't you get interrested in the sort of things your brother does where they don't take up a lot of room or make a big mess?"  I was sort of put out at the time, but you know how it is with time.  At any given moment, i might be cleaning one of my guns in the very cold living room.  I loved smell of Hoppe's No 9.  At the same time, the entrance room (never used in the winter) was webbed from doorknob to chair back and on around the room with winding thread as i found it easier to rewind my bamboo flyrod by stretching the thread over as large and area as possible.  to get to my guns when i cleaned them in the cold living room, i had to crawl on my hands and knees to get under that flyrod thread.  I could streatch that winding operation into weeks, what with all of the other mischief i could find along the way.

At the same time all of this was going on, I like to cut wood into pieces and stick them together.  sometimmes, as i progressed, i learned how to plane.  The only room left for this was, guess>>>  the kitchen.  You cannot believe how big a pile of shavings I could make before i finally gave up to the reality that I had ruined one more beautiful piece of wood.  We would have to step over and around, and under to get from kitchen sink and work counter to get to the kitchen table for dinner.  sometimes, when it was stormy, I would have to crawl or climb back and forth from table to stove to sink just to keep heat in house and fuel in my tummy. 

The size of that old kitche?  Maybe 8x20.  Maybe smaller.  Atleast, it sometimes seemed a whole lot smaller.  but we did enjoy ourselves.
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