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Offline Matthew Schenker

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International Representation
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:07 AM »
Make sure your country is represented!
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 11:10 AM by Matthew Schenker »
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Offline VictorL

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 11:42 AM »
What do you mean? Country of birth of country of residence?

Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 01:41 PM »
Pick the country you want to represent!
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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2007, 10:20 AM »
You forgot to include Tasmania ???
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Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2007, 07:36 PM »
You forgot to include Tasmania ???

Oh man, that's gonna throw off my finely planned alphabetical list!!!

Before I add Tasmania, could I see a show of hands --  how many Tasmanians do we have here?

Matthew
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Offline Groggy

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 08:03 PM »
You forgot to include Tasmania ???
Before I add Tasmania, could I see a show of hands --  how many Tasmanians do we have here?
Tasmania is part of Australia, but if you want to count them, a hand count is more accurate than a head count (in joke).
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Re: International Representation
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 08:32 PM »
Groggy,
I had a post deleted in Aus for using that kind of "in joke" - For shame

Offline Rob McGilp

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2007, 08:36 PM »
Well Tezzer, you'd have to include W.A. then, they seriously think they're another country!!

Albert

Offline Groggy

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 11:29 PM »
Groggy,
I had a post deleted in Aus for using that kind of "in joke" - For shame
FF, I was referring to Taswegians having two heads (on their shoulders) nothing else. :)
« Last Edit: May 06, 2007, 11:37 PM by Groggy »
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FFlowboy

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 03:18 AM »
So was I Groggy, so was I.

Offline phill-k

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2008, 01:57 AM »
 YES :'( the first kiwi
second thoughts are ever wiser - things do not change we change!

Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 11:25 AM »
Everyone,
It's time to re-emphasize the International Representation poll.

The majority of members continue to come from the US, but I have watched the number of people registering from Europe, Australia, Latin America, and Asia grow steadily in recent months.  Based on IP stats coming in from my Web host, there are many more members from around the world than are reflected in the poll numbers.  At this posting, only 215 people have voted in the poll.  That's only about 6% of our members!

Why am I bringing this up now?  Well, so far, Festool USA has carried the entire burden of answering member questions, even when those members are from outside the US.  I want to put some friendly pressure on European, Australian, Asian, and Latin American Festool branches to have more of a presence here, as members from those regions come to the forum asking good questions and seeking help. 

It would help justify the need for more international support if we showed international representation through higher poll numbers.

So, if you have not voted in the International Representation poll, please do so now!

Thanks,
Matthew
« Last Edit: March 03, 2008, 11:30 AM by Matthew Schenker »
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Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 12:17 PM »


  Can't you display the total number of members near the number of voters,
 
  Of course, it would be best if that information is automatically extracted by a shell
  script running regularly on the server (or a similar idea). Automation is the only
  sure way of getting information


Offline Ned

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 02:42 PM »
It's been a while since I registered, so please forgive me if it already works this way.

As part of the process when someone registers, automatically send a Private Message to them with a link to the Int'l Rep poll.

I'm talking PM, not the confirmation email.

'Course, they could ignore it.

Ned
 

Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2008, 11:09 AM »
Everyone,
Current status:
  • There are 3763 members.
  • 230 members have voted in this poll.

That's only about 6%!  If you haven't voted, please do it now.  We need to know...

Matthew
« Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 11:10 AM by Matthew Schenker »
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Offline jonny round boy

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2008, 12:11 PM »
Matthew,

I'd guess that of that 3763 members, an awful lot of them don't check the site regularly. Why don't you send out an e-mail to all members, reminding them that the FOG is here, and asking them to complete the poll. I doubt very much that the 230 of us who've completed it would mind getting a reminder for something we've already done!

You could also add a banner near the top of the page asking people the same (If memory serves, I think you had one for a while before you changed the look of the site).

You might at the same time want to ask members to fill out their profile information more fully.

Also, you have England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland as options, but not Northern Ireland (which anyone from NI or the RoI will tell you is quite different!!!).
« Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 12:12 PM by jonny round boy »
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Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 12:35 PM »

  Would it be a bad idea to group England, Ireland, Scotland, etc ... into the UK ?

Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 12:40 PM »

 There are only about 300 members with more than 10 posts (roughly),
 so comparing 230 to 3763 might be a bit pessimistic.

Offline Tom Bainbridge

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 01:52 PM »
mathew.  there is a very simple reason why uk members ask questions here ................... its Festool UK themselves


they dont answer emails


IF festool uk do answer questions............ its done unofficialy and  "off the record"

if a regional manager contacts you know you are going to get an answer.... WRONG.... not in the case of festool uk

it took festool uk 3 weeks to give me a rubbish answer, festool usa's ceo christian o pm'd me directly and got me THE answer within a few days



festool uks website is dire, it has no tips or information like the usa site

it is more difficult to navigate than it should be and the poor search facility makes it even more difficult

it took nearly 3 years before festool uk had a uk website

AND festool uks website................ its done in germany and they dont keep it up to date

the http addresses on the festool uk site are in german, and as of this afternoon the list of exhibitions and shows is two months out of date. the domino has been in the shops nearly 4 weeks before it appeared on the uk website

all the usa members know the kappex is comming and have known it for months, festool uk were slightly different

they denied it existed






there is also an element of uk culture involved here. it is not just festool uk that have a problem with customer relations


the majority of uk companies pay only lip service to it AND it is part of the national culture to keep things secret

why are english newspapers so intrusive? because they know full well that denial is a way of life for politians, companies and civil servants
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2008, 01:59 PM »
dirtydeeds I sympathize, Festool is lucky you even purchase their tools with that kind of service.

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Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2008, 05:15 PM »

 There are only about 300 members with more than 10 posts (roughly),
 so comparing 230 to 3763 might be a bit pessimistic.

That is an interesting point...
Yes, about 330 members have posted 10 or more times.
However, about 950 members (25% of our total membership) have posted at least one time.  And generally speaking, most of those first ones are good, inquiring posts.
I'm not sure exactly how to interpret these figures, but what I've learned is that posting at least once is the big step.
Matthew
« Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 05:16 PM by Matthew Schenker »
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Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2008, 10:21 PM »


  Posting 1 message is definitely a big step forward, but it does not
  imply having seen the international representation poll

  1) "International representation" may not be an attractive subject.
       What about renaming it, for instance  "Please, let us measure who
       accesses this forum from what country", or something better.
 
  2) May be it stick out for a while on top of anything, as already suggested.
   

Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2008, 10:31 PM »



 I have no idea of what SMF features are, but it might be more
 appropriate to have a total of European memberships.

 What about grouping countries, for instance America, Europe, Asia,
 instead of using a global alphabetical order ?

Offline Tom Bainbridge

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2008, 06:01 AM »
mhch

when in rome do as rome does







whilst continuing to use english/local terms................................. just to keep the romans on their toes  ;D

problem is the romans learn quick.................. some of them use metric  ::)
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Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2008, 07:51 AM »
mhch

when in rome do as rome does

whilst continuing to use english/local terms................................. just to keep the romans on their toes  ;D

problem is the romans learn quick.................. some of them use metric  ::)

I quite like the wording, but I'm not sure of what it means.
Sorry

PS:
My mother family is French, although of Italian origin. I'll check her toes to see how she stands  ;) :D ;D
My father was born German, and my wife is  from Lancashire. So although I was born French, and
since I spent time in Edinburgh, West of London, Massachussett, Colorado, and California, I feel like
 should tick more than one entry  ;) :D ;D :o


Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2008, 08:00 AM »

BTW, I just made a suggestion. Sorry if it appeared to be a  complaint !!

Offline Tom Bainbridge

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2008, 08:17 AM »
mhch, your a real mixed up kid  ;D




then i guess it all gets complicated

im english with a dash of scots and irish blood a couple of generations back

further back in time. my blue/grey eyes denotes possibley scandanavian and black tight curly hair which isnt balding, could suggest other influences




it didnt look like a complaint to me
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Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2008, 08:25 AM »
Well here is a summary by April 7, 2008

Bermuda                1   |
Canada                 11   |
United States      151  +-- 163   Americas    (65.7%)

Australia            17   |
China                      1   |
South Korea          2   |
New Zealand        1   +--   21   Asia-Pacific    (8.5%)

Austria                 1   |
Belgium               3   |
Croatia                 1   |
Czech Republic    1   |
Denmark              4  |
England             20  |       |
Ireland                  2   |      |
Scotland               1   |       |
Wales                    1   |      +-- 24 UK  (10%)
Finland                 1   |
France                   3   |
Germany               3   |
Lithuania               1   |
Netherlands          4   |     
Sweden                    11   +-- 58  Europe (23.4%)

Iran                          1   |
South Africa           5   +--  6  Others
                             -----   --------
Total Voters:     246      248           what's wrong ??
« Last Edit: April 07, 2008, 09:30 AM by mhch »

Offline mhch

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2008, 08:31 AM »


My wife isn't bad either:  mother from Wales,  father US/Virginia of-greek family
who spent 2 years in the UK getting ready for the invasion ...guess what happened ;)

Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: International Representation
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2008, 09:15 AM »
'mhch' I like your summary.  :)  But, I won't help you make it balance.  :P
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