A few more.

I guess we do have something in common!    SMALL SHOP!!!
Mine is about 9'W X 17' L                And on a good day i have an additional 400 sq ft!!   (back yard   LOL )

I guess I should have been a bit clearer about WHAT my shed is crammed with. 

About the only woodworking power tool in the shed is an older Rockwell Radial Arm saw.  Everything else is yard hand implements, yard power equipment, power washer, insulation, a couple of filing cabinets, even the sidecar from my wing, heck, even an old freezer...  So, I really look forward to clearing it out to use as a workshop.

At the moment, all woodworking is done in an open room of the house during the remodel.  Right now, it's split between the dining room and family room.  Once they are finished, the "workshop" moves to the kitchen.

Oh, before you ask... 

The garage is, or was up until earlier today, used as my home gym (or gymboree as we call it).  This afternoon my son, and a friend (my Sherpa's) moved home when my son broke up with his girlfriend and had nowhere else to stay.  (isn't parenting wonderful...?  They finally grow old enough to move out so you and yours can enjoy each other with not a care in the world about being responsible for anyone else and BANG, they're baaaaaaaaaaaaack!) 

A few years ago, I wanted to build a small barn.  I had to go thru ZBA and explain that I needed the barn to set up a wood working shop.  They knew I was in construction and asked a whole lot of questions.  I told them I was doing my WW'ing in my crowded cellar.  They wanted to know why, if i could work in my cellar, i needed a barn.

"Because the only place I can store my bandsaw is under our bed and my wife is tired of having it there"  The entire ZBA burst out laughing and i got my permit.

Of course, the barn is now full of landscaping equipment and most of what had previously been stored in my basement.  I am still WW'ing in the basement.  Some lumber does get stored in the barn, but the BS is no longer under the bed
Tinker

Nice shop Robert.
The wood floor is nice to work on.
My first shop was an old chicken house that I converted. it was 10 x 12.

You must of really wanted to do some woodworking!

I stay inside my house usually on this forum. I actually don't get much work done in the extreme cold, or heat. I don't want to invest in any insulation or heating and cooling system, because my new building will have all of that.

Barry, you have my empathy and sympathy.  The first winter after moving my family to our "this old house project, " a 1954 ranch styled house, we had to endure the whole winter without any use of the driveway or garage.  In the Fall, the contractors tore out the old concrete garage floor and more than half of the driveway.  This was required to comply with code requirements.  The old garage floor and kitchen floor (part of it was formerly a true breezeway, later a covered breezeway) were the same elevation, and the building code required the garage floor to be a minimum of 4 inch below the floor of the house on the other side of the common wall.  The garage floor had to be lowered, which necessitated redoing much of the driveway and all of the drains.  Very expensive!!  The garage has a common wall with the kitchen of the house.  They also had to tear out most of that wall and half of the concrete floor of the kitchen in order to run the plumbing for a large laundry closet that I decided to place in the wall between the kitchen and garage, and a sink in the garage.  And erect temporary end support for the main beam of the garage until the new flooring and footing for a support column could be instralled in the wall of the laundry.  Before they could finish tearing out the old concrete and installing the new, heavy rains and winter came.  My temporary "wall" to seal out the cold air and critters until the next summer primarily was a sheet of plastic.  The house is in a heavily wooded area that is continguous with a city park that is contiguous with Cuyahoga National Park.   My some of my tools suffered a lot of corrosion damage that winter (more than in the previous 30 years), and my cars sat outside until next summer.  I wouldn't wish a repeat of that experience on anyone.  And the next Spring, one of he contractor employees using a jack hammer decided there was too much dust in his work area from his co-worker using a gasoline powered concrete saw, he uncoupled the air hose from his jack hammer to blow it away.  That high pressure (200 psi), high volume air stream immediately ripped down the plastic barrier and caused concrete dust to go everywhere throughout the house!!  That air hose was being fed by a rental v-8 compressor like the road crews use.  The cleanup was left to my family.  It's a wonder the marriage survived.

Dave R.

Dave,

I'm suprised they woudn't let you channel a trench and pour a 4" high concrete curb at the wall between the garage and house. Here in NY we only have to provide a fire proof (marble) sill at the door between these spaces. A fire resistive wall could be constructed next to the existing wall if they require a rating.

Jim

An HD projector! now thats living!

Jim,

You are correct in thinking that I could have passed building code requirements by building a "step-up, step-down" transition, but I figured that would likely become and additional place to cause people to trip.  And there was another more significant problem -- the passage door in the common wall between the kitchen and garage.  Raising it would have meant tearing out more structural wall.  That door and the end of that wall "kiss" the corner of the cherry kitchen cabinets that were not to be replaced.  And the good wife was being put out more than enough with my garage upgrade.  So we left the door in place, until the day the clumsy concrete crew literally tore it off its hinges on the jamb side.  If that ever happens again, Domino to the rescue!

The wall I tore out was fire resistive - concrete block with thin insulation and 5/8 inch drywall.  The design of my project left part of the old wall in place, leaving two passage doors in place, one near each end of the wall.  Between those doors, the new wall section pushed into the garage space to make room for the laundry closet.  Sealing that up to satisfy the inspectors was a bit of a chore, particularly the way the garage attic extended partially over the kitchen (former breezeway) area.  Doing so required 2 X 4 and 2 x 6 blocking between the wall studs, FG insulation compacted in the uppermost ~ft ir more, and fireproof rated drywall on the garage side.  I installed thicker drywall than required and chose a type that is also water resistant.  No problems since the installation.

The concrete floor in the kitchen area had to come out so that hydronic heating tubes could be installed.  The plastic tubing works OK, but the engineering company underestimated the amount of heat needed, and should have specified a closer spacing of the tubing.  The kitchen concrete/heating/laundry project was a major pain for everyone involved, especially the heating and plumbing contractor (I'm not allowed to do my own in Akron unless I pass some test) who had to redo some items.


Barry,

Stick with your project.  It sounds like it will be a very large, useful space when complete.   Like those road project signs: "Temporary inconvenience, permanent improvement."   I started using IrfranView a few weeks ago, based on guiidance and help from other members of FOG.  Some have recommended using GIMP because it is more powerful, although the learning curve is longer.

You will like that foamboard after it's all done.  I used 1" Styrofoam under the siding of the garage I built onto my former house, and 5/8" polyisocyanurate foam with aluminum foil faces between the inner concrete block and out brice facing of the foundation walls that rose to about 3 1/2 ft above the floor level.  That older garage was much more heat efficient than my current one, despite my current one being smaller and having FG filled 2x6 construction in most of the outside walls, the same ceiling insulation and 1" of Styrofoam board under the concrete. 

Dave R.

Robert...I used to have an old junker out there that obviously wasn't built to protect from dust and it always had to be pulled apart and cleaned.  I was concerned about this one doing the same but it has not been affected.  I keep the filter clean is all...I love this projector..it is a panasonic.  I have had it for two football seasons now.