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Offline BadRobot

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2016, 08:39 PM »
What series of 80/20 aluminum extrusion did you use?  Festool clamps fit perfectly.

Thanks,

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2016, 09:41 PM »
Is that the metric product? Doesn't the Imperial stuff have a groove in the face?

Nope Imperial. 1515 ULS - Ultra Light Smooth. More than heavy enough for most anything you will need in this type of application.

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2016, 09:42 PM »
What series of 80/20 aluminum extrusion did you use?  Festool clamps fit perfectly.

Thanks,

15 series, although 40 series fits the clamps just as well.

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« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2016, 11:46 PM »
Always love your posts on 80/20.  Thanks for sharing!

I'm still trying to figure out my MFT/Outfeed/Storage cart and want to integrate their products so I can clamp things vertically on the sides.
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2016, 09:54 AM »
I'm building an 80/20 top for my new workstation (which will then have a MFT-style MDF top) and am struggling to figure out the best corner connection to allow for clamp access.  I like Richard's idea of the modified 3-way connector, but I will probably just go with butt connections, with the long front and back rails covering the side rails.  The trick is then getting access to the slots in the side rails.  How big of an access hole/slot would you think is required to slip in the Festool clamps?

(I will be using 36" 3030 profiles for the outer side rails, 36" 1530 for two inner support rails, and 72" 1530 for the front and back.  The frame will be attached to a Lista Align motorized workstation that I accidentally discovered on Craigslist for a steal.  The only issue with is was that the front and side support brackets were bent, hence the need to build my own out of 80/20.)

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« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2016, 11:18 AM »
I approach corners with 8020 differently, similar to how the MFTs are constructed.  I use 3" aluminum angle .250 thick on the inner edges, drilled through inline with the extrusion slots and attached with tee nuts.  I do not overlap the extrusions, thus both sides are open for clamps and other attachments.  My last project was co-joined CMS tables. While this is not 8020 material, the process is the same.
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2016, 01:24 PM »
FYI there is another source of interesting extrusions available online...www.brunnerent.com  most of their extrusions a available anodized.

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« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2016, 01:35 PM »
Dang @rst - those look really interesting! At some point I want to some up with a modular setup where I can wheel the cart outside, attached some extensions for cutting ply, attach a router table extension, inverted jigsaw, sander, etc. Basically have a workcenter I can customize depending on the project du jure.

What are those extrusions you show - from the MFT but reversed? can you provide details on how to attach the CMS plates?

Thanks,

RMW 

I approach corners with 8020 differently, similar to how the MFTs are constructed.  I use 3" aluminum angle .250 thick on the inner edges, drilled through inline with the extrusion slots and attached with tee nuts.  I do not overlap the extrusions, thus both sides are open for clamps and other attachments.  My last project was co-joined CMS tables. While this is not 8020 material, the process is the same.
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2016, 10:31 AM »
RMW, I know this is late but for some reasons I'm no getting notifications.  Your question regarding the extrusions looking like MFT is because this setup is two VLs with two pieces of MFT rail connecting the tables, giving me enough room to attach my Woodpeckers adjusters using two 8020 15 series t slots.  The only other 8020 material is the 2X2 brackets and t slot t nuts.

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2016, 01:53 PM »
It's been a while since I updated any of the threads I started, mostly since every project is struck in an unfinished state.  [embarassed]

Finally got around to adding a folding wing to the MFT/SYS cart. It's strong & stable as heck, & adds about 30" by 28" of work surface.







Next I need to use the Parf guide and make a MFT-holey top for the wing. Was originally planning to have dog holes in the main top but I find I like working on it sans-holes, so I'm planning to use the wing w/holes for a cutting station using a set of Rip Dogs.

After seeing how stable this wing is I am really considering adding one to the rear, with it flipped up I will have a worktop that is about 53" wide by 60" deep. Too large to use inside the shop, but my big projects mostly happen out on the deck anyway.

Someday I may even get some fronts on the SYS drawers...

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2016, 04:32 PM »
Richard,
What an incredible cart. Have you finalized your plans yet? If so, are you able to share them? Do they include a materials list with costs. How much in total do you think you have invested in the cart (money and time)? Now that's its done, would you do it again? Would you do anything differently? Would there be disadvantages to purchasing the extract lengths from 80/20 versus cutting them to final dimensions yourself?

I just got an MFT and wanted to build a Systainer storage cart, but was thinking of constructing using 3/4 plywood.  What are the advantages of your cart over all plywood construction? Disadvantages?

Have you approached 80/20 about marketing your project? I actually wish they had more tool/workshop plans available for those of us creatively challenged. 
Awesome work! I also love the extension idea.
Thank you!

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2016, 04:38 PM »
I have a slow internet connection, I am out in the country struggling with 5MB/s service, my old home had 100MB/S service 10 years ago. It takes a full minute to look at your pics.

Guys please shrink the file  sizes. 2.7Mg? the file size can be shrunk 10 times smaller with no loss in picture quality.

This took me 30 seconds to do, the file is over 10 times smaller at 200K instead of 2700K and loaded on my computer in less than 1 second. I know I have a slow connection and that's on me, but if everyone keeps uploading files this large for no reason this website will be out of control in 10 years. I am surprised the forum allows more than a 1MB file size, it's just not necessary for internet pictures on a forum off this type :




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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2016, 06:34 PM »
Sorry Dovetail, didn't realize the images were that large. I actually take screenshots of my photos to try to keep the size down.

RMW

I have a slow internet connection, I am out in the country struggling with 5MB/s service, my old home had 100MB/S service 10 years ago. It takes a full minute to look at your pics.

Guys please shrink the file  sizes. 2.7Mg? the file size can be shrunk 10 times smaller with no loss in picture quality.

This took me 30 seconds to do, the file is over 10 times smaller at 200K instead of 2700K and loaded on my computer in less than 1 second. I know I have a slow connection and that's on me, but if everyone keeps uploading files this large for no reason this website will be out of control in 10 years. I am surprised the forum allows more than a 1MB file size, it's just not necessary for internet pictures on a forum off this type :

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« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2016, 09:16 PM »
@Rhino1789 Howdy, you packed a lot of questions in there! Here goes:

Nope the "plans" were never finished, I kept having to make changes based on actual construction and the final design hasn't been documented. The idea was to have a cut-list calculator spreadsheet and corresponding plans. You enter all the details into the calculator like desired OAL height/width/depth, extrusion profile (15 or 40 series), caster size, how many banks of Systainers, etc. pick metric or imperial and it gives you a parts list. Problem with the cut-list calculator is it is loaded with formulas and references and everything has to be checked and rechecked to prevent costly errors. Might happen this winter if I end up stuck inside at night a lot.

As far as cost, there is over 50' of extrusion @ $300-$350 full list price, which is about $5/LF for 1515 ULS (ultra-light smooth) and $10/LF for 1530 ULS. Fasteners & (4) brackets are another ~$100. Casters, drawer slides and plywood add a couple hundred bucks. Total call it ~$600-$650.

I buy the extrusions mostly in 8' sticks from 80/20 on eBay whenever I find a deal, just picked up some 2nds for around 1/3 of the list price. Using 2nds & cutting/drilling/tapping them yourself will keep the cost down. If you bought everything cut-to-size, drilled and tapped the cost would darn near double for the extrusions. Every hole and/or tap costs a couple bucks from 80/20.

After the learning curve a second cart went together in a few hours, it took more time to cut to size & rabbet the plywood than it took to cut/drill/tap the extrusions. I do have a good metal cutting shop saw and the necessary drill guide for the extrusions, and power tap them with a drill. If you are not set up for this it will take a bit more time.

There are lots of examples of similar all-plywood carts on the FOG. I like the ability to use the t-slots for clamps, etc., especially the Kreg Automaxx, which is an advantage to using 80/20. It's probably more rigid but I don't have a plywood cart to compare to so this is just a guess. The cart loaded up is pretty heavy & it takes a bit effort get it moving but there is zero racking no matter how much I jerk it around. With the casters locked it is plenty stable enough for hand planing.

Hopefully this answers everything. Where in PA are you located? I'm in Brigantine Jurzey.

Thanks,

RMW

Richard,
What an incredible cart. Have you finalized your plans yet? If so, are you able to share them? Do they include a materials list with costs. How much in total do you think you have invested in the cart (money and time)? Now that's its done, would you do it again? Would you do anything differently? Would there be disadvantages to purchasing the extract lengths from 80/20 versus cutting them to final dimensions yourself?

I just got an MFT and wanted to build a Systainer storage cart, but was thinking of constructing using 3/4 plywood.  What are the advantages of your cart over all plywood construction? Disadvantages?

Have you approached 80/20 about marketing your project? I actually wish they had more tool/workshop plans available for those of us creatively challenged. 
Awesome work! I also love the extension idea.
Thank you!
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2016, 10:40 PM »
Richard,
Thanks for the very detailed response and yes you definitely answered my litany of questions.  I figured you had that much invested in the 80/20, its quality certainly shows.  I just got myself an MFT that I plan to pair up with a Mafell MT55, so I got some short pieces of 80/20 to use as Guide Rails and material support.  That little bit wasn't cheap either. 

You actually gave me an idea since I have some 80/20 incorporated into my MFT.  Because I have a number of Kreg Automax clamps already, I'll use my 80/20 pieces (with Qwas dogs) to affix my Kreg clamps to the table. Thanks for the tip.

I actually just moved to Bucks County, PA from Scotch Plains, NJ, and grew up in Gloucester County, NJ, so I know Brigatine a little. Growing up, I spent my summers in Ocean City, NJ, so I'm always jealous of folks living down there year round. Good for you! Thanks again and let me know if you ever decide to sell your well designed 80/20 carts.

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« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2016, 04:31 PM »
Finally got to use the awesome Parf guide from UJK & @Peter Parfitt and make myself a Holey MFT surface. The system works perfectly, simple to use and great results.

I've found since building this cart I have not missed having MFT holes in the main work surface so I only added them to the wing, and mostly so I can set up a Rip Dogs cutting station:







The guide fence from the MFT makes it easy to set a stop for repetitive cuts. I have a bunch of 2" wide cherry to rip to length for some cabinet end panels and door frames, which is what prompted me to finish up the fold down wing. The main table itself gives me a 60-some inch support for the offcuts & I can use this setup for cutting 8' material without often having to move the cart.

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2016, 05:20 PM »
It looks very nice Richard. I got a question for you, can explain to me how the guide fence from the MFT is attached to the dogs? Or even better cap you post a closeup picture?

Greets Ocram

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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2016, 07:19 PM »
Howdy @Ocram - those are the guide fence adapters for the Rip Dogs. Take a look at http://www.ripdogs.com/guide-fence-adapter/

I just use 2 sets of them with the guide dogs to hold the fence.

Thanks,

RMW

It looks very nice Richard. I got a question for you, can explain to me how the guide fence from the MFT is attached to the dogs? Or even better cap you post a closeup picture?

Greets Ocram
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2016, 12:27 AM »
It looks very nice Richard. I got a question for you, can explain to me how the guide fence from the MFT is attached to the dogs? Or even better cap you post a closeup picture?

Greets Ocram

Hi @Ocram

I am in the middle of making a new video with some updates on the Parf Guide System and so on. One thing that I do mention are the UJK Guide Rail Clips for the Parf (or any other 20 mm) dogs. They are available from Axminster. Here is a link:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/ujk-technology-dog-rail-clip-pair-102973

They have been designed by Axminster, I have nothing to do with them at all but I have used them and they work brilliantly.

Peter

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« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2016, 07:01 PM »
Thanks for the replay @Richard/RMW

Didn't see the Rip Dogs adapters before. They look good en i bet they work perfect but only with Rip Dogs looking at the pictures. The diameter on top of the Rip Dog is not 20mm if i am correct. So this is no option for me.

Ocram

Howdy @Ocram - those are the guide fence adapters for the Rip Dogs. Take a look at http://www.ripdogs.com/guide-fence-adapter/

I just use 2 sets of them with the guide dogs to hold the fence.

Thanks,

RMW

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« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2016, 07:09 PM »
Hello @Peter

Thanks for sharing this option. Looking forward to your review video and opinion.

Ocram

It looks very nice Richard. I got a question for you, can explain to me how the guide fence from the MFT is attached to the dogs? Or even better cap you post a closeup picture?

Greets Ocram

Hi @Ocram

I am in the middle of making a new video with some updates on the Parf Guide System and so on. One thing that I do mention are the UJK Guide Rail Clips for the Parf (or any other 20 mm) dogs. They are available from Axminster. Here is a link:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/ujk-technology-dog-rail-clip-pair-102973

They have been designed by Axminster, I have nothing to do with them at all but I have used them and they work brilliantly.

Peter

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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #81 on: December 30, 2016, 08:23 PM »
I scored this nice workbench, secondhand, apparently originally used at a local university in their science labs:



I only realized after the fact that it has about $1,000 worth of 80/20 extrusions and fasteners, including two really nice and super heavy duty pull-out drawers.

While this design could (and has been) working as a makeshift JumboMFT, I've wanted to make a few design improvements for some time. And, of course, the great thing about 80/20 is that it can be broken down and re-assembled with minimal effort. Here was my list of design improvements, in order of importance:

1) Provide a means to open up the extrusions along the top, for clamping access. These extrusions are 15 Series, so I believe Festool clamps will slide right in without issue. The dilemma here is that the clamping channels are enclosed, so a new fastening method would have to be employed.

2) Provide an open "top deck" where random trinkets could be stored. This deck would ideally run underneath the entire working surface, and yet provide enough headroom for the Festool clamps to slide in without issue.

3) Enclose the bottom portion of the cabinet, to keep out dust and debris.

4) Make it mobile. Even though the rubber feet shown above are incredibly grippy (called Mighty Mounts, and a whopping $50 apiece), I would appreciate the workbench being mobile. However, I still want stability, so I'm planning to use double-locking casters (locking both the wheel and swivel articulation). There will be some loss of stability, but the mobility trade-off is worth it to me.

5. Add miter gauge channels along the left-hand side of the surface. This workbench will do double-duty as an outfeed table for my Powermatic 65 tablesaw. Another project in the queue is to build a mobile base for that tablesaw, and at that time, I'll make sure to provide a means to level it such that it will be flat with this working surface.

I've been able to incorporate most of these improvements in the design below. I took careful measurements and re-created the workbench in a parametric modeling program. This is just a rendering, not yet reality, but I think it can be overhauled at a cost of about $150 in 80/20 components, casters, and plywood.









Let me know what you think!
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2016, 07:01 AM »
Hello @ryanjg117 , very nice en looks solid too. Your plans for converting it in a jumbo MFT would be my idea too.

If you want to put a vac in the bench I personally find it handy too store it on the right side of the bench since I am right handed. I wold put right drawer in the middle to create space for the vac.

What ever you do, it will be a killer bench.

Greeting Ocram

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« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2016, 03:01 PM »
@ryanjg117 Nice score getting the used bench. Looks like they used linear bearings for the drawer slides, total overkill but I guess budget wasn't a concern for them. You might consider salvaging them for later use in something else and replace with cheap 100# full extension slides. You would also have all the extrusions to re-purpose since you are adding an end panel that the slides can mount to.

FWIW you will need to trim the corner brackets to get the Festool clamps into the t-slots, They partly block the slot:



Hopefully you can see how these are trimmed from this photo:



If you are shopping for casters check out castercity.com - you can mix/match wheels/brakes/mounts and get nice 4" casters for around $15 with the double locking brake. I'm a fan of these.

Going to be a great bench when you are done with it.

RMW

I scored this nice workbench, secondhand, apparently originally used at a local university in their science labs:



I only realized after the fact that it has about $1,000 worth of 80/20 extrusions and fasteners, including two really nice and super heavy duty pull-out drawers.

While this design could (and has been) working as a makeshift JumboMFT, I've wanted to make a few design improvements for some time. And, of course, the great thing about 80/20 is that it can be broken down and re-assembled with minimal effort. Here was my list of design improvements, in order of importance:

1) Provide a means to open up the extrusions along the top, for clamping access. These extrusions are 15 Series, so I believe Festool clamps will slide right in without issue. The dilemma here is that the clamping channels are enclosed, so a new fastening method would have to be employed.

2) Provide an open "top deck" where random trinkets could be stored. This deck would ideally run underneath the entire working surface, and yet provide enough headroom for the Festool clamps to slide in without issue.

3) Enclose the bottom portion of the cabinet, to keep out dust and debris.

4) Make it mobile. Even though the rubber feet shown above are incredibly grippy (called Mighty Mounts, and a whopping $50 apiece), I would appreciate the workbench being mobile. However, I still want stability, so I'm planning to use double-locking casters (locking both the wheel and swivel articulation). There will be some loss of stability, but the mobility trade-off is worth it to me.

5. Add miter gauge channels along the left-hand side of the surface. This workbench will do double-duty as an outfeed table for my Powermatic 65 tablesaw. Another project in the queue is to build a mobile base for that tablesaw, and at that time, I'll make sure to provide a means to level it such that it will be flat with this working surface.

I've been able to incorporate most of these improvements in the design below. I took careful measurements and re-created the workbench in a parametric modeling program. This is just a rendering, not yet reality, but I think it can be overhauled at a cost of about $150 in 80/20 components, casters, and plywood.









Let me know what you think!
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2017, 04:24 AM »
You might consider salvaging them for later use in something else and replace with cheap 100# full extension slides. You would also have all the extrusions to re-purpose since you are adding an end panel that the slides can mount to.

FWIW you will need to trim the corner brackets to get the Festool clamps into the t-slots, They partly block the slot:

Richard, thanks for the info on the issue with the corner brackets... I was a little worried those might not be open enough, so I'll have to be sure to bore those out before attempting to put it all together. Also, good idea on pulling out and potentially repurposing the linear bearings for a future project. They really don't make all that great a drawer slide because they take a lot of force to actuate--nothing like the smooth Blums I'm used to. Speaking of which, I've got a few Blum drawer slide kits sitting around... Might be a good use for this.

Funny you mention the same source for casters that I've been eyeing for this project. I'm a big fan of the "total locking" casters and will probably go with four of the 3" 300-pound rated casters for this project.

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« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2017, 09:02 AM »
@ryanjg117 - I'll see if I can locate photos of the mod necessary on the corner bracket, although I am sure it's not hard for you to envision. I put the cap screw in and traced it's outline, then struck a line from corner to corner with a straightedge and removed everything outside the lines.

FWIW, if you decide to go with standard glides, after some trial/error I concluded that the best end panel is made up of 2 pieces of 1/2" laminated then you route a dado leaving an 8mm (5/16") tongue to slip into the slot. With the 15 series profile this leaves the inside face of the panel a couple MM proud of the extrusion and it's simple to mound the glides. These photos show what I am referring to.

Have fun!

RMW

You might consider salvaging them for later use in something else and replace with cheap 100# full extension slides. You would also have all the extrusions to re-purpose since you are adding an end panel that the slides can mount to.

FWIW you will need to trim the corner brackets to get the Festool clamps into the t-slots, They partly block the slot:

Richard, thanks for the info on the issue with the corner brackets... I was a little worried those might not be open enough, so I'll have to be sure to bore those out before attempting to put it all together. Also, good idea on pulling out and potentially repurposing the linear bearings for a future project. They really don't make all that great a drawer slide because they take a lot of force to actuate--nothing like the smooth Blums I'm used to. Speaking of which, I've got a few Blum drawer slide kits sitting around... Might be a good use for this.

Funny you mention the same source for casters that I've been eyeing for this project. I'm a big fan of the "total locking" casters and will probably go with four of the 3" 300-pound rated casters for this project.
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« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2017, 11:03 AM »
@Richard/RMW My New Year's resolution for 2017 is to finally build the 80/20 MFT Outfeed Table I've been planning since you started this thread!

I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you will answer for me.

I love the folding side table and was wondering about getting the right parts for the hinges so that it can fold down out of the way as well as lock in the upright position.  Can you elaborate?

Also, you may have already explained this but what process do you use for threading the 80/20 yourself?

Many thanks!

Joe
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2017, 01:51 PM »
@deepcreek - Howdy Joe. If you are planning on making a flip-up outfeed table this setup should work great. The supports are KV 0206.

Video of power tapping the 80/20:



I only use the Ultra-Light Smooth (1515 ULS) profiles, in which the end holes have an "X" shaped relief that reduces the surface area of the hole itself and tapping with a drill works fine. If you used the heavier 1515 profile the hole is solid and the only time I ever broke a tap was in that extrusion. It is also overkill, the ULS works for everything I have done. 

Other than tapping the ends you need to drill an access hole inside the slot to reach thru and tighten the fasteners, unless you are only using corner brackets. You can either drill the holes on a drill press or 80/20 sells a drill guide for around $30.

Clear as mud?

RMW

@Richard/RMW My New Year's resolution for 2017 is to finally build the 80/20 MFT Outfeed Table I've been planning since you started this thread!

I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you will answer for me.

I love the folding side table and was wondering about getting the right parts for the hinges so that it can fold down out of the way as well as lock in the upright position.  Can you elaborate?

Also, you may have already explained this but what process do you use for threading the 80/20 yourself?

Many thanks!

Joe
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2017, 04:41 PM »
@Richard/RMW

Thank you so much!

That video was very encouraging.  As simple as using a little cutting oil and a tap in a cordless drill. 

Before seeing it, I was trying to figure out how to get long lengths under my bench top drill press!

Any tips on accurately cutting the pieces to length?

Joe
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Re: (Yet another) 80/20 MFT/SYS Cart
« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2017, 04:55 PM »
Richard will be able to provide a lot more advise, but I have cut 80/20 using my sliding miter saw.  I use high tooth blade, lock slide and cut very slow.
Bryan

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