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Offline Birdhunter

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Another Bedframe Question
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:51 AM »
As I stated in another post, I'm building my first bedframe. The rails are 1.5" thick and 4.75" high and made of quarter sawn white oak. It's a King bed. The rails join each other... no post. The bed needs to come apart.

I was planning to use one Festool corner connector and one 14mm by 100mm tenon at each joint. The tenon would be glued only into one rail.

I have enough Festool corner connectors to use two at each joint. Would that be stronger than one connector and one tenon?
Birdhunter

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Offline Holmz

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 08:57 AM »
Sounds like you are planning on some for applied to the frame...

Online Svar

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 01:36 PM »
I think the standard approach is two tenons (to register and counter shear force) and one connector (to pull things together). Not sure your rails are wide enough for all three. Can you make wooden tenons narrower? Perhaps large dowels? I imagine the connector needs to be somewhere in the middle. Otherwise do two connectors per joint.

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 05:06 PM »
I received advice from one whom I respect greatly and decided to go with one 14mm tenon and one connector. The tenon will be glued into one rail and pinned with a screw in the other rail.

I making this bed frame for some young friends and they had very definite views on how the frame needed to look. Thus, the 4 3/8' by 1 1/2" rails are as thick as my friends wanted.

I don't think the frame should see a lot of stress on the joints.

I've seen a video where the man stands on one of the boards joined with the single tenon and the connector. That video was both very instructive and very convincing.

At this point, I'm more concerned with making the headboard and getting it flat. It will be 84" by 32" and all oak. I am planning to make it in two pieces and assembling it on site. It would be far too heavy in one piece for me to manage.
Birdhunter

Offline antss

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 08:45 PM »
Can't your young friends/clients even muster some sweat equity in the deal to move a single piece headboard ?   

As I recall you're knocking off something they saw in a catalog/web?  Certainly that's not a two piece headboard to assemble ?

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 06:09 AM »
My friends helped move all the lumber from the driveway around the house into a storage room next to my shop. They will transport all the pieces from my shop to their house, and they will apply the finish..my guess is that they will enlist some of their strong young friends to help. We plan to use wipe on Minwax poly with a satin look.

Their time is limited. He's a hair stylist and she is a Pilates instruct. They have a very active 2 year old boy and another in the oven.

A lot of the stuff I'm doing now, jointing, planing, thicknessing, and Dominoing could be dangerous and certainly is finicky. I'd love to have a helper, but I've learned ways to do stuff by myself.

My biggest asset is that I know when it's time to quit for the day. If I feel tired or my mental keenness has dulled, it's time to put the tools down for the day.
Birdhunter

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 08:16 AM »
My biggest asset is that I know when it's time to quit for the day. If I feel tired or my mental keenness has dulled, it's time to put the tools down for the day.

Hear, hear!!!
- Willy -

 "Remember, a chip on the shoulder is a sure sign of wood higher up." - Brigham Young

Online Cheese

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 12:15 PM »
As I stated in another post, I'm building my first bedframe. The rails are 1.5" thick and 4.75" high and made of quarter sawn white oak. It's a King bed. The rails join each other... no post. The bed needs to come apart.

I was planning to use one Festool corner connector and one 14mm by 100mm tenon at each joint. The tenon would be glued only into one rail.

I have enough Festool corner connectors to use two at each joint. Would that be stronger than one connector and one tenon?

FWIW...I wandered into Woodcraft the other day and spotted a copy of the Festool Domino book. Paging through it, I happened across the Festool method for constructing bed frames. Thought it may be of interest for this thread. 
« Last Edit: August 29, 2017, 12:21 PM by Cheese »

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2017, 04:26 PM »
Thanks for the information. I wish my young friends had selected a design that had corner legs. I'll look for the Domino Book.
Birdhunter

Online Gregor

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Re: Another Bedframe Question
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 01:48 AM »
Thanks for the information. I wish my young friends had selected a design that had corner legs. I'll look for the Domino Book.
Here you go: http://bit.ly/2qERHw8