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Offline RickyL

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Another holy bench.
« on: December 28, 2016, 08:35 PM »
A little different from most Paulk style benches i've seen on here.

I was keen to have dogs on the side as well as the top.

I'm going to build some storage underneath for the systainers.
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Drilling for the vice,
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Vice fitted, I later realised I should have made better use of the side dogs.
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Mounted on Iroko and oak scraps I had laying around, I drilled and tapped for m8 bolts.
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Bolted on.
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I didn't bother with a centre brace.
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Ready to flip over, this was incredibly hard on my own on wobbly trestles.
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Trimming the edges with a flush bit.
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Making use of the new vice.
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A piece of iroko from the scrap bin to use for vice jaws. I had to freehand plane/sand it.
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I also lack decent clamps.
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Dogs cut in the jaws
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Works Great
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I'll start making the stand and systainer storage tomorrow.





« Last Edit: December 29, 2016, 06:13 PM by RickyL »
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Offline eddomak

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Re: Another holey bench.
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 05:27 AM »
Looks fantastic, and very useful!

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Another holey bench.
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 12:20 PM »
Looks like you used the CNC Design Pro Jig to make the top yourself.  Was the accuracy of the jig up to your expectations?  I assume that you also used the 20mm Festool router bit to cut the holes.  Did you need to back the holes when you cut them?  Also, did you notice any slop creeping in as you used the jig over time?

Looks like CNC Designs only ships to UK addresses.  Anyone know how to get one shipped to the US?

I've also been looking at the parf guide system for making tops.  It includes everything needed for making the tops except the small parf dogs, while this kit requires me to buy the right size guide bushing and the bit.  With that, the CNC solution is a little less expensive, but not as dramatic as the price of the jig itself might suggest.  Any comments on that?

Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holey bench.
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 06:13 PM »
I have tried 3 ways.

My own system, loosely similar to the parf style. It was basically a gaint set square with a series of holes in it. It worked but required a lot of moving around and my drill was blunt.

I tried this jig and that works. Care needs to be taken though or you could get things wrong. To put all the holes in birch ply took around 2 hours none stop cutting.

The final way was simply a copying template with a 1/2" cutter and bearing This worked but was the most troublesome.

To do it in MDF is a little over half that time.

I have a handling account at work and would ship any over. I don't think it'd be worth it for just one though. I have never used the parf setup, but it would probably make more sense. Axminster are usually very good.

Looks like you used the CNC Design Pro Jig to make the top yourself.  Was the accuracy of the jig up to your expectations?  I assume that you also used the 20mm Festool router bit to cut the holes.  Did you need to back the holes when you cut them?  Also, did you notice any slop creeping in as you used the jig over time?

Looks like CNC Designs only ships to UK addresses.  Anyone know how to get one shipped to the US?

I've also been looking at the parf guide system for making tops.  It includes everything needed for making the tops except the small parf dogs, while this kit requires me to buy the right size guide bushing and the bit.  With that, the CNC solution is a little less expensive, but not as dramatic as the price of the jig itself might suggest.  Any comments on that?
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Offline jasen

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 06:17 PM »
As someone who has been looking at the Paulk Workbench I enjoying see the additions. Fantastic job and love the vice addition.

I'm buying the parf system because I can build an MFT top which I will use to build the Paulk Workbench. hose 2 tabletops will pay for it instead of of CNC services.

Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2016, 06:29 PM »
Mine isn't designed to move, (apart from on wheels around the shop) so weight is a good thing for me rather than hinderance.

I've been busy with other things today, but just had a couple of hours in the workshop.

The "legs", and cross brace. I put a back in. This side will be for hand tools. I'm not sure if I'm going to leave the other side open for drills etc when working. Putting them inside the bench with the smaller holes is awkward. I might end up putting draws in, but then they'll just get full of dust.
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How they will sit.
Because i've started using the bench, i'm getting used to the really high nature. I've decided to make my bench higher 1000mm. It was going to be 850mm but I much prefer this height. I'm not that tall, 6'.
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My holes are square at least. I don't want to cut into the top yet so have used spacers. I would like a 3d printed model for some low profile dogs.
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This is the "spine" of the bench. Underneath is going to be drawers one side and shelves the other for systainers.
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I'm not good at the drawing part. I quickly sketched this then started.
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Another holey bench.
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 09:45 AM »
I have tried 3 ways.

My own system, loosely similar to the parf style. It was basically a gaint set square with a series of holes in it. It worked but required a lot of moving around and my drill was blunt.

I tried this jig and that works. Care needs to be taken though or you could get things wrong. To put all the holes in birch ply took around 2 hours none stop cutting.

The final way was simply a copying template with a 1/2" cutter and bearing This worked but was the most troublesome.

To do it in MDF is a little over half that time.

I have a handling account at work and would ship any over. I don't think it'd be worth it for just one though. I have never used the parf setup, but it would probably make more sense. Axminster are usually very good.

...


Thanks for the very kind offer and the input.  I'd sort of settled on the parf setup anyway, but had forgotten that the DNC jig existed.  Maybe someday it (or something like it) will be available in the US.  Meanwhile, the parf guide it is.

Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 07:52 PM »
I did a little bit more today.

I put a rebate in the bottom cross bar.
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The shelves will slot into this.
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On its wheels.
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Extractor in place.
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I then went ahead and cut the bases for the systainer drawers. Only to realise after thery aren't big enough. I should have made them a couple of 100mm bigger on the back edge to add storage.
At least its only cheap MDF.
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Offline HAXIT

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 08:20 PM »
Nice bench, the Storage idea is great. [thumbs up]

Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2016, 12:42 PM »
Didn't have long today but made some more progress.

Cutting the new bases at correct size, this will allow me 200mm behind the systainers, ideal on sanders etc as I can store spare discs behind.
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Drawer "fronts"
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First drawer mounted.
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Mounting runners.
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Where todays progress ended.
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Happy new year everybody!



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Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 05:18 AM »
Just about finished, I want to use the sides as hand tool storage.

But I didn't get a place to put my track saw, or the router. The systainers didn't fit on the "front side" that said, i'll never push the bench upto the wall, so might just add storage on the other side.

Sanders are under the vice, I have a 28mm gap if I use the same width shelve. The side can be 18mm, but that still leaves 10mm. I'd like to use all the space I can, but not sure what I could put in there. I thought about something for saw blades,

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Other side.
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Online pettyconstruction

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2017, 11:13 AM »
Pretty slick
Nice job
Charlie


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Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2017, 06:58 PM »
I decided to use the spare 10mm I had for blade storage. I dug out some scrap 4mm. Made a quick template with the jigsaw and round cutter. (do festool make a trammel for the 1400?

Turning down some oak into a dowel.
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Clamping the 2 pieces of 4mm together. I didn't take any other pictures because it was only 30 mins work.
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I parted them so far then used a pull saw to finish the cut. I need to make some longer vice jaws.
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This again was scrap, it was the first thing I ever turned on the lathe. Kind of good to put it to use.

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I purchased some 5mm magnets to fix my T18 chuck but they were too large, so I used them for this.

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Handle so you can move it in and out.
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Works pretty well.
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Offline angiover

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2017, 10:37 PM »
I am  new to the group. Love this bench.

Offline mike_aa

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2017, 12:21 PM »
@RickyL

Really nice job on the bench!  It looks massive!  What are the overall dimensions?

Thanks for posting all the photos.  Lots of great ideas there!

Mike A.

Offline RickyL

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Re: Another holy bench.
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 05:56 PM »
Thanks,

Its a full sheet of 8' x 4'. Or over here 2440 x 1220. With a little cut off when I did the holes. Finished size is around 2420 x 1210mm now.
It is however higher. I figured out I like working higher when assembling it. Its much higher than a normal bench at around 39" or just under a meter.
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