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Offline jmbfestool

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Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« on: June 26, 2011, 04:47 PM »
Me and my mate are doing this Cedar decking which will have cedar gazebo on top with shingle roof.     Also in the picture you can see concrete slap which is another part of the job but doing that after we have finished this but that area is the bbq area and its having a Cedar roof above with 4 hips and shingles.    

Just some pictures to show you what we have done so far.    

  First we layed out some ply to create the curve!   Got some metal plates attached to ply together and then fixed a router to a piece of ply attached to a 1x1 timber which was then fixed in centre point.  

The Decking is 4.2 wide and 7 meters long.

(sorry if some pictures are poor quality some are made by my mobile as I forgot my camera!)




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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 05:02 PM »



can you see the brown circle on the grass! OOPs killed the grass doing the circle!









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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2011, 05:08 PM »
Then we placed it in position so to see where we should position it with the semi circle.  Then marked where to dig the holes!

I didnt like using softwood for posts so we went looking around the clients shed and found ALOT of oak!  So we took some of them to concrete into the ground!




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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2011, 05:24 PM »
I didnt like just fixing to the oak post so I suggested notching the Oak beams






It kept on raining then it sunny then rainy! So decided to park our vans close enough to use the joists to span across each other vans and we found some light weight sheets in the clients shed and placed them ontop to cover up.   So I was able to use my CMS and OF2200 to copy the ply templates.  


 


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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2011, 06:24 PM »
Deano came up with a solution dont worrie people! Haahaa!   

More pictures 2 moro or tuesday!   Then wont be any more till next week on this job!  Working on Glulam Cedar after so pictures for that thread instead this week.


Nite Nite People!


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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 04:20 PM »
More Pictures!  Man its was a lovely hot day 2 day!
 

Going early to moro to finish that off and start curving the border for the curve.



6 meters long and 142mm sqaure!  A little to big for the kapex! lol!












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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 04:23 PM »
The Curve!




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Offline Rene89

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 01:24 PM »
Looks really nice jmb, something diffrent with the round/elliptic shape I like it haha.

But... Lovely hot... I dont know how hot it is over there, but it is 38 degrees and a humid of 89% over here, really, it wasn't nice working today [unsure].

Cheers René
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Offline speed

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 02:25 PM »
im soooo looking forward to seeing some curvy pics, id love to have a go at something likr that
has made the change. now 100%  T-loc :)

Offline Rene89

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 02:37 PM »
Dude even reading this topic makes me sweat lol haha. round things in wood are lovely for the eye
but its a serious amount of more work! Looking forward to the pics...

Are you making a planning for all your jobs, like a work preparation or something or is it all in your head when you are starting a project?

René
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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 03:36 PM »
We where going to do the red section curve the decking entrance out and hand rail but now we are doing away with that!  FEW!!! more curving!

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2011, 02:41 PM »
Nice drawing haha it makes sense to me why you wouldnt make the curves it that section. But I do think it looks nice, and
complements the overall design of the decking... Wow that cedar is expensive by the way, didn't know it cost that much [blink]!

Looking forward to some more pics and reading material  [popcorn]

Cheers René
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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2011, 04:23 PM »
Well I have some more pictures but like I said I am not going back till next week but ill upload these pictures just so its something to look at for now lol!

I have been working on the Glulam Cedar job to day.  Ill make some pictures on Friday for that one as ill have to roof on on friday starting the roof 2 moro on that job bit more work than a standard roof plus I cant carry the rafters my self to big and heavy.




any way!

PICTURES!

We loaded the decking on my mates van and if you look closely you can see red stain on the side of the cedar!  Well about 8 of them got red stain all over because the client put some old red carpet on the cedar to protect it from the weather well it got wet and stained the cedar!  [scared] We tried to sand it but would of taken to long so we took them to the work shop and sent them through the thicknesser to take 1mm off all of them to get it out and to smooth the decking boards a bit as some where not that smooth.




Cut some of the decking board down to 600 and put a 7.5degree cut on them and finger joined them and going so use my CMS to curve them next week for going around the decking as a boarder to cover the end grain of the decking.





Only pictures I have sorry!



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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2011, 11:10 PM »
I can't decipher your grammar but, I like looking at your pictures. [big grin]

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2011, 06:32 PM »
Looking good James. [thumbs up]


I can't decipher your grammar but, I like looking at your pictures. [big grin]

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Offline speed

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 01:22 PM »
 [poke] any progress........
has made the change. now 100%  T-loc :)

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 02:04 PM »
[poke] any progress........


Then lost 2 3 days on rain!



So I ended up sticking my chop saw inside my van and my CT22 worked well inside my van when it was raining I just closed my sliding door!   If I needed to cut longer timber I just opened up my back door and slide the long piece in while I was getting wet but didnt mater as long as my kapex was nice and dry!

JMB





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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 02:12 PM »
ITs been doing alot of this recently!  Not good!

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Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 02:41 PM »
You need the underwater Kapex, perhaps?  Maybe one of those umbrella hats?


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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 02:56 PM »
You need the underwater Kapex, perhaps?  Maybe one of those umbrella hats?


this belongs in the design new kapex thread


Offline Alan m

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 03:13 PM »
jmb you should get the mechanism off of one of those wheelchare car seats that swivel and slide out to the side of the car. it would make a great chopsaw set up [eek]
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Offline Rene89

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 02:47 PM »
I thought Holland was the rain country but it looks like the UK is something too  [poke] [poke] [big grin]
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2011, 02:54 PM »
I thought Holland was the rain country but it looks like the UK is something too  [poke] [poke] [big grin]


Yeah Holland is bad I remember when I lived der it did rain some!

but England has the most Rain in europe fact which sucks man!

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2011, 02:56 PM »
jmb any finished pics?
wrote using my fingers

Offline Alex

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2011, 05:34 PM »
Well kick your mate's arse then, it's unacceptable he disappoints his client and leaves you with the mess. If he took the job and other jobs as well he should do the extra hours to get it done in time.

I'm curious to see the rest of this job, I think it's a very interesting project.  

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2011, 09:21 AM »
But he's afraid as it's constant work from the builders and he has kids and responsibility so wants to make sure he has plenty of work.

I was working on a roof with him I had to walk across the steel ridge beam to fit the rafters no scaffolding or anything in the middle I don't work like that.   He keeps telling me I'm just spoiled with my builders on my jobs but I think it's how your should work but might just be me.

Falling off a roof beacuse of lack of proper safety and support ain't going to help him keep working to feed the kids! Nice to be busy but a bit shorted on his part.. busy on unsafe project now, one slip and could be off work for 6 months!

Stay safe mate, I have done plenty on work on offshore platforms, I have seen first hand what lack of safety can cause! (the day they pressure tested a tank without checking inside (copy of people climbed inside for a kip), pressurising was fine (slowly crushed unconcious), it was when they hit the relief valve that the mess was occured, think like putting an egg in a microwave!)

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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2011, 12:29 PM »
umm da sounds nasty man!   


 I agree no point working unsafe!  I'm not crazy about health and safety and think its often over the top but I do think some things to do with your safety is a must and often it just takes longer as well when you dont have proper scaffolding setup or something.    I always at least set my tower scaffolding up in the middle so I can roll it along as I work along the ridge.

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Re: Cedar Decking by ME and Mate
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2011, 01:06 PM »
I knew two roofers that got about on crutches after falling off roofs....... you only fall off one roof. a carpenter I worked for many years ago fell off a ridge though the ceiling joists and then through the first floor joists onto a concrete oversite.he was an odd shape I guess they did not have the means to fix you up so well back then.
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2011, 04:34 PM »
ALOT  More work has been done since these pictures I just thought I would upload them! I wanted to uploaded more recent pictures BUT I was working on it till 10 at night and it was to dark to take a picture then


Using my MFS rails I made a jig to router out for the gallow brackets the OF2200 is pretty heavy to keep above your head! my arms where hurting a little



Just showing how the jig worked it just sat  on the top  and then i clamped it.   Its not in the right place now as the wall plate is in the way now but you get the idea.


Alot of my festool tools are being used on this job making life alot easier  [big grin] the little Ro90 has been really handy to sand the internal curve!

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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2011, 06:07 AM »
More up2date pictures








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