Tom Bainbridge
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« on: February 01, 2008, 02:30 PM » |
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thank you to all of you who made suggestions for fixing my OF1400, particular thanks go to Mike Chrest mike subsequently pm'd me and suggested i posted photos. i couldnt resist the chance to show off  the project is in an edwardian house (1906) in dulwich village uk. bedroom wardrobes in mdf. the rest in oak:- 3 radiator cabinets, a hi fi unit and a main cabinet with lighting and some torsion box shelving wardrobes before painting    hi fi cabinet  main cabinet  radiator cabinets, one of which ive shown already    torsion box shelving mostly hidden by sofa unfortunatly 
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2008, 03:12 PM » |
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Wow! I'm impressed!
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2008, 03:33 PM » |
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Nice work DD. How long did it take you to make all of those pieces of cabinetry?
"Hi fi". There's a term that I remember from my youth! :)
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 04:01 PM » |
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Nice work DD. How long did it take you to make all of those pieces of cabinetry? "Hi fi". There's a term that I remember from my youth!  I can barely remember my youth!!!!  That is very nice work!!!!
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 04:15 PM » |
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hi fi is an old term even here but it takes less time to say and write than "home entertainment centre" which is what it is
as to the time taken
im a carpenter, its my very first venture into mid range cabinet work so its outside my comfort zone
it took far too long but it paid the mortgage, all the bills and fed me
was it worth it?
the answer is yes. ive learned so much and more work will come out of it
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 04:53 PM » |
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Beautiful work. I'll wager it won't be outside your comfort zone for long!
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Rob McGilp
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 06:03 PM » |
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Great work DD. Also, its great to know that the knowledge base here has helped you. Its fantastic to have such knowledge on tap.
Regards,
Rob
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chughes
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 10:29 PM » |
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Beautiful!!! I love the wardrobe. How long did these project last? Did you build on site? Keep up the nice work.
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 05:36 AM » |
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all the units were built in sections in my workshop then taken to site for installation. i couldnt have built on site too much mess its a living house with agreement with the owners it was built in stages, they didnt have much choice because they varied the job as work progressed and i had other work booked it was quite lucky because i also had to teach myself design and learn how to draw using AutoCad the wardrobe is nearly 250 pieces of mdf and pine taken to site as part assemblies and took two days to install stripping out the learning curve the design, cutting and part assemblies took a week the rad covers (again stripping out the learing curves and a couple of ups) took about a week of solid work then another 4 days to sand and finish. two days to install all three. the installation time sounds horrendus but the walls are brick and plaster (1906) and were finish painted before i installed...... scribing to the walls took the time but you cant get a "fag-paper" between the rad covers and the walls. id better explain that VERY quickly before you guys get the wrong idea  its a hand rolling cigarette paper the hi fi unit and the main cabinet............. difficult to say with all the design changes but three weeks feels about correct, the time is in all the solid lipping 19x19mm (3/4inch) and other mouldings, i didnt allow any where near as much time as was needed these were taken to site in 10 sub assemlblies installation for these two 4 days again scribing to finish painted 100 year old walls. i had a final learning curve. i fixed cover strips and mouldings with 23 guage pins, they hardly show on american oak but having applied a medium oak wax to them to achieve a european oak colour suddenly it looked like a cheap carpentry job. i used various coloured wax sticks to fill the holes.
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Eli
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 12:55 PM » |
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Very nice work. Love the wardrobes.
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2008, 02:10 PM » |
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these are the wardrobes after painting, before anybody says it ive got to tweek the hinges the painting was done by my mate andy, hes the best painter ive ever met, he was trained by the guy who puts the mirror finish on the door of No 10 Downing Street  
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Eli
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2008, 09:30 PM » |
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Wow. Keeps getting better. That's what I love about finish work.
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 12:24 AM » |
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DD, Your work looks great, but I'm disgusted by the A/V guy letting all the wires for the "Hi Fi" and TV's dangle all over. 
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Mike Chrest
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 09:48 PM » |
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DD, Wow, Nice work!!! Glad you got the router straightened out in time. Mike
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Dan Clark
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 11:43 PM » |
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DD,
You have a lot of talent. VERY nice work!
Dan.
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 07:13 AM » |
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thank you for all the votes of confidence, ive still a long way to go to get where id like to be
next time the back of the main cabinets will have ALL the grain set vertically
i need to work on my designs to reduce the number of pieces.
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Eli
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 04:49 PM » |
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Were the doors raised out of a single piece?
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2008, 05:14 PM » |
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no eli, the wardrobe doors were made of 18mm mdf with 6mm panels
method of construction is profile and scribe, what i think you call cope and stick
although it increases the labour cost it gives a much more traditional look, reduces the weight to be lifted and carried and wasteage is reduced.
the wastage is a factor here in the uk because it costs me 100 quid a metric tonne ($200) to dispose of it and you have to get it to a licesnsed tip. that price is increased each year well above inflation to reduce landfill
putting it into household waste is a no no as a carpentry business, it could get me an unlimited fine.
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2008, 03:50 PM » |
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Dirtydeeds, I hope it is not against forum rules to react to older posts  Great work, love the wardrobe and i have a question on the wardrobe doors. Did you consider making the doors out of, say a single piece of 12 or 16mm MDF and the rails and stiles out of 6mm MDF and glueing these on the 16mm panel? This would still have that traditional look but would IMO be a lot faster to make. Or is this a total no no in your eyes? I had to make a cabinet for some extra storage space above a staircase and used that method because I had very little time to get it done. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2008, 03:54 PM » |
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WOW, fantastic job.
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2008, 04:15 PM » |
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johne
the method youve used is right for your setting and it looks good
in my case it was an edwardian house in a very expensive area, with many of the original features, panelled hallway, reeded door stops, architraves 4 inch finished size etc
using your door design wouldnt have looked right in my case
your design is traditional but in a more simple style it looks more shaker / arts and crafts
this house is traditional edwardian with more ornate styling, just what the shakers and arts and craft movements were avoiding
ive used your door design before but 6mm faux stiles and rails on 18mm, rather than your 6 on 12
16mm mdf is not a standard thickness here
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 04:41 PM » |
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Thanks Dirtydeeds for the explanation,
I sort of thought this would be your answer, good to know that you're obviously the kind of person that feels that details make the difference.
And once again fantastic job.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2008, 04:43 PM » |
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Dirtydeeds I never saw this.
SWEET WORK!
Nickao
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2008, 06:03 PM » |
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as always you have been kind
to me its pure luck......... that time i got clients who would pay the right money for the right job in the right setting
most of my clients cant afford this type of work, hence i wont be able to post in "member projects" too often
"fitting a door" in member projects doesnt quite make it in my eyes
but the next time i get a box sash window in REALLY BAD condition i will post it because most of you guys wont have seen one or believe the amount of work involved
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2008, 08:42 AM » |
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DD, Good deal with the deal Looks like the kind of job that is had to price. Well done. Bob
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Tom Bainbridge
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2008, 01:32 PM » |
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yes pricing this work is difficult its based on material costs plus a feel of how long it might take
i have recently been timing some bench operations to get a better feel for the outputs
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