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Offline RSU

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Cut table
« on: April 01, 2018, 01:52 PM »
Happy Easter All.
Made the simple but effective cut table for sheet goods today.
Needed something to travel.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 02:06 PM »
Yours is more elegant than mine.  Then again, mine is considered to be a consumable, made from crappy lumber from the Borg.  The one thing I'd do differently today would be space the two outside longitudinal pieces out by 6 more inches to clear the parallel guide extensions when I use them.   [smile]
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 03:20 PM »
Both of your setups are far fancier and heavier than mine. I even complain about the Toughbuilt C700's weight, but their adjustability is awesome.

I just use two 2x6's and some 2x4 material. The top of the C700's have the 2x4's screwed down. The handles are still usable too. I cut pocket holes into the top 2x4 material, but have never used them yet.


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Re: Cut table
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2018, 04:38 PM »
helpful to see the different approaches to having a support for cutting down sheetgoods. Those sawhorses work well for us whe nwe need them. WHile they're heavu as you point out, they fold down so compact that traveling with them is great. But I don't wan't to carry them any further by hand than I have to,

We have used it with just a pair of 2x4 and used an extra sheet of birch plywood for support, but protect the  with our old standby: 4 pcs of rigid insulation board cut down to 24x48 inches for easy handling and storage. Minutes after the sheet goods are broken down, everything  is put away again - very space saving and quick.

We're thinking about an intermediate size worktable, larger than an MFT but smaller than Ron Paulk's 4ft x 8 ft super bench. Something like @gunnyr  has in his pick-up truck. We would be interested in hearing current user reports in a new thread on that topic.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 05:58 PM »
If it works for you it's good.

Yes agree the Toughbuilts are on little heavy but there great.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2018, 07:22 PM »
@RSU - but your approach is a real workmanlike job - well designed and executed. I like it
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2018, 09:46 PM »
Hans
Thank You for your compliment.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2018, 10:29 PM »
Added a handle. I'll admit it's really not that bad to lug around.
It's made from 3 2x4 and 2 2x6. Using the 2x6 clears the top of horses. The total length is 4'x7' . 7 feet because that's what fits in my truck without sticking out.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2018, 10:41 PM »
Just wanted to add all cross members are 16" on center except the first one. I figure it will give me support if and when perralle guides or needed.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 11:10 PM »

We're thinking about an intermediate size worktable, larger than an MFT but smaller than Ron Paulk's 4ft x 8 ft super bench. Something like @gunnyr  has in his pick-up truck. We would be interested in hearing current user reports in a new thread on that topic.

Hans

@TSO Products I really like the 3x6 size of the @crpaulk Compact Workbench.  #1 is that it fits easily in my truck!  The 2nd reason I like the Compact Workbench is that it is easy for me to carry alone, even around the back of a house to a walk out basement.  I find that the 3x6 size is perfect for both breaking down sheet goods on and then actually working on projects.  A 4x8 size is too large to easily reach across for me (I'm 6' tall).  I've found that the 3x6 size also works well on the job site where space if often limited. 

I don't know that I could suggest any real improvements to the Compact Workbench.  I love having the space under the work surface available to hold tools and supplies, I like that my CT-26 fits neatly beneath it, I like the design of the saw horses that allow storing materials or rails. 

I only deviated from the plans in two places:  1) I did not include a router cut out and 2) I created a handle in the center of the middle support to make it easier to carry alone.  I guess that a third modification I made was that I used the Parf Guide to drill the holes.  Now that I have the Stubby Bench Dogs I have gained some cross cut capacity, making the Compact Workbench even more useful.
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2018, 07:54 AM »
Jeff,
thanks for highlighting what works best for you AND why - really helpful!

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2018, 08:16 AM »
Both of your setups are far fancier and heavier than mine. I even complain about the Toughbuilt C700's weight, but their adjustability is awesome.

I just use two 2x6's and some 2x4 material. The top of the C700's have the 2x4's screwed down. The handles are still usable too. I cut pocket holes into the top 2x4 material, but have never used them yet.



I also have C700's.  Like you, I put a 2x4 on the top of them but I covered up the handles.  I've been complaining ever since about how hard they are to carry!  I'll be adjusting my set up soon!  Many thanks @Peter C!
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2018, 08:47 AM »
Nice job on the grid table.
I’d still put a sheet of foam on top.
I want as much dust collection as possible, even outside.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2018, 10:31 AM »
I'm now retired and was in the same situation .. I've put together a few cut tables in the past 4 decades, but needed a portable and lighter (things get heavier as I get older) solution to set up a work station and track saw/panel cutting table when traveling to do projects for the kids and in-laws.  I came up with an aluminum extrusion so I could store the crossmembers inside the tube.  Works great for me and find myself using it more than my regular bench (extra space), even when home. 

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2018, 10:55 AM »
@TrackTubesGuy great system you built but what about dust collection? Do you use a sacrificial sheet under the workpiece?

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2018, 12:03 PM »
@TrackTubesGuy great system you built but what about dust collection? Do you use a sacrificial sheet under the workpiece?

I mostly use Festool tools (track saw, domino, etc.) hooked to the CT36, so dust isn't a problem.  That said, when home I occasionally use rigid foam I've cut down and store on the garage door .. mainly to give the wood crossmembers a little more life, but not necessary.  For the rest of the dust I blow and go with my Ergo .. best money I every spent. 

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2018, 01:45 PM »
I also have C700's.  Like you, I put a 2x4 on the top of them but I covered up the handles.  I've been complaining ever since about how hard they are to carry!  I'll be adjusting my set up soon!  Many thanks @Peter C!
One other thing I did was to remove the top grip stuff on the C700's, with a heat gun. One was already falling off anyhow, which is how I got it for 1/2 off. Even still the 2x4's on the outboard sides requires a shim. Sometimes I think of cutting a 2x6" down to the proper width which is about 1/8" wider than a standard 2x4". I used 3/4" screws so I never have to worry about nicking them with a saw blade, and am not worried about holding strength with the 4 GRK screws per board. As they are sacrificial, I just replace the top 2x4's every so often from off cuts. Many times I don't bother with the side and middle rails, but just use them as saw horses like most people. The dust collection is good enough for me without foam. *shrugs* 

The 2x6" down the middle fits tight and as I said above could be pocket screwed in as the holes are cut in the 2x4" material attached to the C700's.

Although Trojan saw horses are great, the ability to level the C700's on uneven ground makes them superior for me, as my primary saw horses.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2018, 06:46 PM »
My use for this is mainly outdoors. If I have a need for better dust extraction, like setting up shop in a Customers garage.  Yes I'll throw a piece of 2" foam board on it. I just drank the green cool aid. Last month with a TS 75. And a few tracks. in the past month I have also bought the ETS/EC 150/3 with new air stream 3 pad, MFK 700, the roll and a few odds and ends. also have the 36 vac.
I did use the 75 and the Sander on a board and batten job I did last week.


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Re: Cut table
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2018, 06:48 PM »
My use for this is mainly outdoors. If I have a need for better dust extraction, like setting up shop in a Customers garage.  Yes I'll throw a piece of 2" foam board on it. I just drank the green cool aid. Last month with a TS 75. And a few tracks. in the past month I have also bought the ETS/EC 150/3 with new air stream 3 pad, MFK 700, the roll and a few odds and ends. also have the 36 vac.
I did use the 75 and the Sander on a board and batten job I did last week.

How did the new pad and paper work for you?

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2018, 07:32 PM »
Peter
This was the first time I ever used a Festool sander with dust extraction. So I can't compare. In fact the new pad was to ship today. BUT me and my dealer(toolTown) were surprised in came with one 2 weeks ago. Paper isn't out yet so I beat the he'll of the Gamer that came with it. Loved it. Then for the job I did last weekend I went through 5 sheets of the regular gamer 120 in the middle of a Mc Mansion. I was very pleased. So was the customer. So I'm hoping the new paper hits the shelves soon.

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Re: Cut table
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2018, 07:34 PM »
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2018, 07:38 PM »
Sorry I miss spoke Jet stream 2.
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2018, 09:54 PM »
you guys talking about all these new sanders and abrasives make me wonder what I'm missing. I first encountered FESTOOL via a very tough sanding job. Lucky for me my friendly SEVEN CORNERS HARDWARE (RiP) suggested a FESTOOL sander and abrasive along with a FEIN dust collector. THis was shortly after FESTOOL showed up in the US.
Wow, was I blown away with the performance of the whole system. Used so little abrasive that I still have a couple of boxes left over. I had bought the abrasive in the expectation it would use the "normal" amount for the big job. A memorable and pleasant surprise.

Someday I'll learn more about sanding in and out with FESTOOL.

OK, back to the "Cut Table" thread   [wink]
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Re: Cut table
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2018, 10:06 PM »
A Walko4 on a pair of Stanley horses works well for me. After dimensioning sheet goods I can use a
couple of MFT tops and make some cabinets. 

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