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Offline Scorpion

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Dad Makes (too much)
« on: August 08, 2017, 08:05 AM »
My wife and I have been toying with the idea of selling the house and moving locally to take advantage of the local market (hot).  The idea came to us in May and since then we've been working to wrap up some projects here and there so we're ready.  Silly things happen though as I get into projects...more projects.  As I was finishing up out master closet cabinet build it occurred to me that the other bedrooms could use a little organization too.  I took a few rough measurements and then started in on my sons closet -



Stupid design.  30-inch door to access a 76-inch closet but it's only 28-inches deep which makes it really difficult to access the whole thing.  I can solve that with a little multi-tool action.



I drew up the cabinet design for my sons closet and then measured my daughters.  As it turns out, her closet is 3-inches wider than my sons so I can use the same design and build both sets at the same time.

Concept is to build the kids dressers into the closets so we can remove the free standing ones from the room and get the floor space back.  I tend to attempt to optimize time by reducing setups so I start with table saw operations.  I cut all of the sheet goods right away into components and then switch out to the dado blade and cut the 1/4-inch groove for the back panels.



Leaves me with smaller stacks of components ready for some LR32 action.



I have some bigger assembly tables but, for whatever reason, I managed to do all of the fab on my two MFT Horses. 



Here's a trick I just stumbled across.  When using the holey rail on sheets that are longer than the rail I can't clamp the rail to the end so i clamp the parallel guides to the sheet.



I think I spent the entire Saturday drilling holes.  The nice part about doing all of one operation at a time is it allows me to put all of those necessary tools before moving on to the next op - dominos.

Since most of the cabinets are the same depth, I was able to setup a story stick and quickly bang through the sheets following the drawing.  Still took hours given the sheer number of components to machine.



For whatever reason, I get the most satisfaction using the domino.  One reason I really like the MFT Horses is that most boards can be clamped in such a way that I can end-mortise both sides in one setup.  Prevents the occasional "fixturing the part up side down" mistake.



Finally on to assembly.  I build the main structures bottom up.



Until I had complete assemblies.



Normally I'd use a full back panel but, based on the dimensions of this cabinet, I got better use of the sheets by making them 2-piece.



Failed to get a final pic of the back of this cabinet after adding the back braces (upper and lower) - 1/2 ply that are 5-inches wide and get pocket screws to lock the sides to the top/bottom.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 12:18 AM by Scorpion »

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Offline Scorpion

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Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2017, 08:28 AM »
I wanted to be sure that the closets supported longer garments like dresses or hanging pants so I left room next to the dresser for a 5' section.  I really wanted to get the base cabinet in before the end of the weekend so I quickly assembled the taller cabinet. 

The entire family was very entertained watching me figure out how to get the drawer-base upstairs.  I tried multiple ways but ended up disassembling it and taking it up in pieces (yeah, I assemble them dry for exactly this reason).



Perfect fit.  Has a little wiggle room but the trim will nicely cover that up.  Good progress for the first weekend.


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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 08:31 AM »
Looking good and watching to see how it all progresses.
Should be a big improvement and the freed up floor space
will be nice.
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 08:58 AM »
My wife and I have been toying with the idea of selling the house and moving locally to take advantage of the local market (hot).  The idea came to us in May and since then we've been working to wrap up some projects here and there so we're ready.  Silly things happen though as I get into projects...more projects.  As I was finishing up out master closet cabinet build it occurred to me that the other bedrooms could use a little organization too.  I took a few rough measurements and then started in on my sons closet ...

That's a slippery slope.  You're just going to get everything done the way you like it when you sell it :).  Looks like a really attractive improvement.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 09:59 AM »
My wife and I have been toying with the idea of selling the house and moving locally to take advantage of the local market (hot).  The idea came to us in May and since then we've been working to wrap up some projects here and there so we're ready.  Silly things happen though as I get into projects...more projects.  As I was finishing up out master closet cabinet build it occurred to me that the other bedrooms could use a little organization too.  I took a few rough measurements and then started in on my sons closet ...

That's a slippery slope.  You're just going to get everything done the way you like it when you sell it :).  Looks like a really attractive improvement.

Agree, just have to watch out you don't customize it so much that is not attractive to someone else. Custom built-ins are fine and this may all be reversible without much trouble, if so it would be good to let potential buyers know that.
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Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 12:34 PM »
I think this will be really nice if laid out right. Anything really beats the tiny door and wide un accessible closet.
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Offline Scorpion

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 02:26 PM »
That's a slippery slope.  You're just going to get everything done the way you like it when you sell it :).  Looks like a really attractive improvement.

Agree, just have to watch out you don't customize it so much that is not attractive to someone else. Custom built-ins are fine and this may all be reversible without much trouble, if so it would be good to let potential buyers know that.

Agreed in both accounts.  We're gonna stay now mostly because it'll take me the rest of the year to finish everything I just started.

The house isn't on the market yet so only FOG readers could be potential buyers.  You're right though, if and when we do attempt to sell, those that will like the house are going to need to like built-ins (or drywall repair).  :)


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Offline SoonerFan

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 10:41 PM »

The house isn't on the market yet so only FOG readers could be potential buyers.  You're right though, if and when we do attempt to sell, those that will like the house are going to need to like built-ins (or drywall repair).  :)

While it's true not everyone likes built-ins, surely it's true that everyone likes built-ins better than dry wall repair.  Does anyone like dry wall repair?   [smile]

Seriously, nice design and nice progress. 

Offline Scorpion

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 12:07 AM »

While it's true not everyone likes built-ins, surely it's true that everyone likes built-ins better than dry wall repair.  Does anyone like dry wall repair?   [smile]

Seriously, nice design and nice progress.

Nobody I know. [emoji12]

Thanks for the compliments.


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Offline Scorpion

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Re: Dad Makes (too much)
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 11:08 PM »
Saturday I spent the day building cabinets.  Since all fabrication was (mostly) done, it was the same old thing over and over.  Domino, glue, screw, insert back panel, screw in back braces, etc.  Since I'm building both closets at the same time I needed to take a break and demo my daughter's closet...which took more than half a day.  Drywall sucks but the festool DC's certainly help minimize the mess.  I got a better before picture that shows how limited access the doors allow.



I'll save you the pain of seeing another gutted closet and skip further in.  With the uppers now assembled I got the main cabinets installed.  When demoing my daughter's room I found that she had an additional cavity floor to ceiling that was just deep enough to allow me to add a shoe depth cabinet (to the left)



In the above pic you might notice that the tall cabinet now has a lower "cubbie" below it.  After seeing my Son's, and getting to visualize putting clothes in it, I realized that the tall locker sized cabinet was too low to the ground and even my kids would end up ducking to get into it (undesirable).  So I decided to add a drawer below it.

I shifted back to my sons now, added the upper, the drawer under the locker, and it's upper. 



I grabbed a shot that shows how I joint cabinet parts to get around the limitations of the 5x5 sheet when making ~8-foot cabinets.  The add-on piece is located by dominos and then attached using pocket screws.  Super simple.  The face frames will hide the ugliness and no one will ever know.  I chose to make it much shallower to prevent things from disappearing to the back of the shelf.



Son's is now roughed in with all of the boxes.  Now to finish out the rough-in of my daughter's.  I got all the boxes in and then went out to the shop to put some of my tools away.  I might have been gone for 30 minutes and I came back to find my daughter moving her clothes in.  She does not yet know she's getting a shoe rack.  I'm keeping that a surprise.



Not shabby progress though I do wish I'd gotten a little further.  At least now the kids can use the closet this week.  Next is the face frames.




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